Mentalist Lodger issue

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covboy

2,576 posts

174 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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NinjaPower said:
I'm afraid I agree with what has already been said.

You are pretty much completely fked, and you should get her out now. She has already failed to pay and is now moving your stuff about. What other reasons do you need?

Next time, only take in lodgers who:
Are working full time.
Do not seem mental.
Have a genuine reason for wanting to rent a room from you. (and are Fit)

To be honest you could do much worse than have a student lodger. I rented my 2 spare rooms to students when I was in my early 20's and it was great. £50 a week off each of them and they were no trouble and a good laugh a lot of the time.
Fixed that for you

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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cold thursday said:
northwest monkey said:
I take it you've given her an AST, as without one she will get nothing from the DSS. If needs be & you really do want to carry on, then go with her to fill in the forms (lots of councils use "online" forms now rather than paper) and at least you know (a) its been done, and (b) done correctly.
This is the wrong advice.!!!! Do not give her an AST. you need a lodgers agreement.

The Deposit may be retained by you and DOES NOT need to be protected in a deposit scheme for it is exempt.

Issuing an AST by mistake - Extreme Caution: If, by any chance, instead of issuing a licence/lodger agreement to the person you gave them an (AST)Assured Shorthold Tenancy, then they will automatically be protected under the Housing Acts. You will be f**ked and headed for a world of pain.
If you evict the person as though a Lodger having given them an (AST) you could be arrested for Unlawful Eviction.



Edited by cold thursday on Thursday 5th February 13:07
Sorry - my mistake. Will DSS pay HB for a lodger & would they want HMO licenses etc?

Rest of my advice still stands though - money up front or GTFO.

cold thursday

341 posts

128 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Dss will pay HB for lodgers.
You don't need a HMO licence unless you have more than 3 lodgers.

Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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She's moving your stuff around already? Red card immediately. It's YOUR home, she can do what she likes with the layout of her bedroom but no more.

Christ, I'd barely tolerate a girlfriend rearranging my place, let alone a lodger!

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

177 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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NinjaPower said:
Next time, only take in lodgers who:
Are working full time.
Do not seem mental.
Have a genuine reason for wanting to rent a room from you.
Plus, most importantly:

Pay a month's rent and a deposit equivalent to one month before they set foot through the door.

As someone who has been both a landlord to a lodger, and also a lodger, I say that no one decent expects to live somewhere without paying upfront and anyone who moves in without paying by giving excuses, then doesn't pay when they should by giving more excuses has no intention of paying anything, ever.

Get her out or accept she is going to live there for several months without paying anything.

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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Fully agree re. payment in advance. I've always insisted on this.

The only exception was once someone was struggling to find the full amount since they were waiting for a deposit back from another place- bit they still paid 75pc of the upfront costs and the remainder when they got paid a couple of weeks after they moved in.

Sorry OP, but letting someone move in without that is bonkers. That's the only security you have!

Spooge

150 posts

112 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Did she ever pay up/leave Op?

dingg

3,987 posts

219 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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the OP is most likely 'bricked' into the alcove next to the fireplace OR hanging out of the backend of the lodger.

Kinky

39,556 posts

269 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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I reckon she's done him over, he's now buried under the patio, and she's hacked his PC and will be posting to confirm that all is absolutely perfect smile

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Or there's the really boring idea that she's a perfect lodger and paying her way, although she's sadly still a munter.

Kinky

39,556 posts

269 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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sleep

Way too boring. A complete waste of a thread tongue out

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Exactly. I wonder if they've actually clicked as two nutters as well and gone on a Bonnie & Clyde style rampage.

Kinky

39,556 posts

269 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Now THATS more like it smile

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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Snoop Bagg said:
She was an ex F1 girl and dancer so I'm sure she was at some point.
She told you this presumably..? biggrin

thetrash

1,847 posts

206 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Or there's the really boring idea that she's a perfect lodger and paying her way, although she's sadly still a munter.
That where he went wrong, who cares if she can pay? as long as she's fit and a naturist.

Pferdestarke

7,179 posts

187 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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She's now sleeping in his bed and has taken up two thirds of his wardrobe.

On the other hand she's fed his plants and they've never looked healthier.

Get her out.

Kinky

39,556 posts

269 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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I'm telling you, he's under the patio. She's trying to hack his machine to get onto PH using his account ......

ArmyMedic2012

66 posts

138 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Is it time to start search and rescue?

Kinky

39,556 posts

269 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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I'll give the CSAR guys a call:
http://www.cheshire-sarteam.org/

And on that note - you won't ever get a more astounding and awesome bunch of people. Unsubtle plug for awareness for my local SAR team - SEBEV - http://www.berkshirerescue.org.uk/

Spooge

150 posts

112 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Perhaps we're worrying too much. Thinking about it, I don't think the wifi signal will reach under the patio. I'm sure OP will update us when he gets back from his new "man cave".