81mph in 50mph - speed camera van - advice please?

[Dammit]

Things change, in a society it takes time for change to permeate - just because the "ordinary Joe" hasn't yet adapted to the new normal doesn't mean that a) they won't and b) the new normal needs to revert to the old situation ASAP.

The Luddites such as yourself always remind me of a conversation I had with the IT guy at work, which started "Of course, I used to go fag-bashing with my mates of a Friday night as it was ok in those days".

Things change, accept it - or don't that's your choice, but don't whine about it.

[anonymous-user]

Dammit said:

Things change, in a society it takes time for change to permeate - just because the "ordinary Joe" hasn't yet adapted to the new normal doesn't mean that a) they won't and b) the new normal needs to revert to the old situation ASAP.

The Luddites such as yourself always remind me of a conversation I had with the IT guy at work, which started "Of course, I used to go fag-bashing with my mates of a Friday night as it was ok in those days".

Things change, accept it - or don't that's your choice, but don't whine about it.

What?! Fag bashing use to be legal, then it was changed?

The easily led such as yourself always remind me of the sheep in Animal Farm....

[Phatboy317]

Devil2575 said:

If you think limits are being set too low then you don't solve it.

Fixed it for you.

[Johnnytheboy]

Davidonly said:

As I said on another thread: once the 'ordinary Joe' notices that normal behaviour is landing them in bother, the situation has become unreasonable. I mentioned the notion of policing by consent. I think we can all see that this as at risk of being damaged as a principle by the present approach to speed limit setting and enforcement.

I have noticed that the stigma of being caught speeding seems to have vastly reduced in recent years.

Now everyone's been caught, no one is ashamed of it.

[Clivey]

Davidonly said:

As I said on another thread: once the 'ordinary Joe' notices that normal behaviour is landing them in bother, the situation has become unreasonable. I mentioned the notion of policing by consent. I think we can all see that this as at risk of being damaged as a principle by the present approach to speed limit setting and enforcement.

Quite.

Dammit said:

Things change, in a society it takes time for change to permeate - just because the "ordinary Joe" hasn't yet adapted to the new normal doesn't mean that a) they won't and b) the new normal needs to revert to the old situation ASAP.

The Luddites such as yourself always remind me of a conversation I had with the IT guy at work, which started "Of course, I used to go fag-bashing with my mates of a Friday night as it was ok in those days".

Things change, accept it - or don't that's your choice, but don't whine about it.

WTF?

"Things change, accept it"? How about no. The current situation surrounding limits / enforcement isn't progress; it's the nanny state going too far (again). The job of politicians and lawmakers is not to enforce their own misguided agendas, yet they seem to believe that it is because we let them get away with it. Of course, it doesn't help when the country's populated by sheep that just swallow whatever's being shovelled.

As for the "luddite" comment; the irony is strong. We shouldn't need increasingly restrictive limits. - We should seek to better ourselves, which in the case of the transport network means completing journeys more quickly and with less fuss. You're not going to do that if everyone's limited to a crawl.

I'd go as far as to say that those who believe we need even lower limits are holding us back, are backwards themselves and only deserve to be ignored by everybody else. Even though the general public can be pretty dim at times, they clearly recognise that many limits are too as they exceed them so regularly.