Private Plate PLOD aggro!

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walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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LAWSY1 said:
...many many replies...
I am not sure if I deserve a parrot but just in case you really have employed Magnum PI to track down an advert from 1994 - IANAL but I don't think it will help.

Unlike most I can WELL believe that the DVLA advertised it mis-spaced to maximise their income.
However, that was a LOOOONG time ago.

What is relevant now is what the current ads say and what the current law is.

Laws change all the time and they often make one group of people better off at the expense of others - hence lobbying etc...

The time to complain was BEFORE they changed the rules... not now.
Now it's too late.

And again, if it was your first tug, you might be able to elicit some sympathy "I have had it like this since 1994 when advertised blah blah..." but at round 3-4 by THE SAME COPPER, I think you should cut your losses.

And for the record - I would very much like a 911, let alone one with a 911 ABC type plate. Good on you.

V8forweekends

2,481 posts

124 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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LAWSY1 said:
Cos 9 times out of 10, the plate you REALLY WANT is never available....
Strange logic. It's so vital not to be seen without a vanity plate of some kind that a st one (that still costs money), that basically says "I know this isn't very good, but the one I want isn't available" is better than the free reg the car came with and saving the rest for cocaine and hookers. I see your random caps lock's still going BTW.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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V8forweekends said:
It's so vital not to be seen without a vanity plate of some kind that a st one (that still costs money), that basically says "I know this isn't very good, but the one I want isn't available" is better than the free reg the car came with and saving the rest for cocaine and hookers.
I happen to agree with you, but the alarmingly large numbers commanded for "st" plates shows that there a plenty of people who disagree with us!

Each to their own... but don't be surprised to get some extra police attention!

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Blimey OP!

Just go and enjoy your 911, a lovely car, stop wasting time, pissing around with arguments you cant win and in the grand scheme of things don't really matter.

If all I had to worry about was a misspelt number plate, I would be very happy in life!

And if I had a 911 I would be out bloody well enjoying it, instead of wasting hundreds/thousands of pounds getting Quincy to trawl through unattainable archives of adverts. Even if you find the ad, as has been said above, laws and police leniency has changed!

Edited by TwistingMyMelon on Thursday 26th February 09:57

Wacky Racer

38,165 posts

247 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Why do people think they can go round breaking the law, just for their own vanity?

Enjoy the car ffs!

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
I'll just put this here, shall I?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&...

But, again, that's a subjective debate on the dynamic merits of one car versus another. They drive differently, whichever you prefer. A Corolla with a vanity plate drives no differently to a Corolla with a normal plate.
Yes but the Corolla drives better. And according to you that is all that matters, anything else is just a waste of money. Ergo an old 2CV is a waste of money by your own logic.

Yes CH loves his, just as I love having a personal plate on my car, but both, according to you, are a waste of money when that could be spent on dynamically improving the drive (me by spending the money on performance mods I neither want nor need, CH by selling it and buying a used Corolla).

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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walm said:
Unlike most I can WELL believe that the DVLA advertised it mis-spaced to maximise their income.
However, that was a LOOOONG time ago.
They didn't though, they really didn't! biggrin

It would be political suicide for a government department to blatantly advertise plates for sale displayed in a way that would be illegal!

Loads of commercial businesses did and still do (really terrible ones too, there used to be loads in the back of Autocar, don't know if there still is).

But no government is going to open themselves to a st storm of criticism in that way.

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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LAWSY1 said:
Whilst you do and have to, accept negative criticism. There are a few jokers, who when sat in front of their laptop, seem to all of a sudden, grow a set of spuds. But you can tell, they are infact spineless knobbers. They take these situations as an opportunity to get all lairy and brave... But hey, this isn't real life, tis the tinternet...
Well good for you for keeping your cool and not stooping to their level.

Oh, wait... boxedin

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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LAWSY1 said:
Cos 9 times out of 10, the plate you REALLY WANT is never available....
Quite apart from the fact that I can't imagine anyone desperately wanting 'WHOS WHO' on their number plate, so what? If what you want doesn't exist you don't buy it do you?

I'd like an Iron Man suit - doesn't exist so I don't have one rather than making something out of coloured tin foil that looks a little bit like one.

I'd like AR1 on my car too but I can't have that either so I don't get plates made up with AR1 on them and screw them on anyway, nor do I get ABB 112B and fk about with it till it almost says AR1 for the exact same reason.



Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Ari said:
walm said:
Unlike most I can WELL believe that the DVLA advertised it mis-spaced to maximise their income.
However, that was a LOOOONG time ago.
They didn't though, they really didn't! biggrin

It would be political suicide for a government department to blatantly advertise plates for sale displayed in a way that would be illegal!

Loads of commercial businesses did and still do (really terrible ones too, there used to be loads in the back of Autocar, don't know if there still is).

But no government is going to open themselves to a st storm of criticism in that way.
Your naiveté is touching. Governments do this all the time.

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Pothole said:
our naiveté is touching. Governments do this all the time.
Of course they do, but not blatantly by sticking a bloody great advert in the Sunday Times quite literally advertising the fact. biggrin

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Ari said:
TooMany2cvs said:
But, again, that's a subjective debate on the dynamic merits of one car versus another. They drive differently, whichever you prefer.
Yes but the Corolla drives better.
Do you know what the word "subjective" means?

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Explain to me how I'm wrong. You argue that any money spent on a car that isn't somehow improving the dynamics is a waste. Thus, spending money on a 2CV when you could buy a dynamically superior Corolla clearly must, by your logic, be considered a waste.

They're just a tool right? No point cleaning them, no point putting a nice plate on them, no point puttering about in an old crappy French relic when you could have a nice reliable faster better handling Japanese box for the same money.

This is your logic I'm applying here. Don't agree with it myself but you've made it very clear that dynamics is all. Anything else is just a waste. Right? smile

TooMany2cvs said:
Vanishingly few people care what your registration "says", and it makes absolutely no difference to the dynamics of your car. After all, the dynamics, the way it drives, are the reason why us petrolheads do the man-maths for things like 911s, right?

Enhanced? No. Better tyres would enhance it. A suspension refresh and upgrade would enhance it. There are catalogues full of shiny things to enhance the way a dozen-year-old 911 drives. But a couple of bits of ten quid perspex that just happen to have a slightly different sequence of letters and numbers? Can somebody explain how that works to me...?

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Ari said:
Pothole said:
our naiveté is touching. Governments do this all the time.
Of course they do, but not blatantly by sticking a bloody great advert in the Sunday Times quite literally advertising the fact. biggrin
Keep hold of all the General Election full pagers you see over the next few weeks...check back a couple of months after the election.

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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You know what I mean! biggrin

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Ari said:
You know what I mean! biggrin
I do.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Ari said:
Explain to me how I'm wrong.
Because your opinion is subjective.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engli...

In trying to change the subject here, you're comparing apples with oranges. We aren't talking about whether a 2cv, a Corolla or a 911 are better or worse than each other in any particular measure - objective or subjective. Putting a private plate that includes the digit nine followed by a pair of ones on a Corolla doesn't make it a 911. It's still a Corolla. We're talking about whether a particular Corolla or 2cv or 911 is "enhanced" by having a different sequence of letters or numbers on a bit of perspex on each end. And, clearly, it isn't. It cannot be. The ONLY difference is cosmetic, and that is purely subjective. Yes, that word again.

If you're somebody who thinks one particular blue 911 is somehow "better" than an otherwise identical particular blue 911, when the ONLY difference is a different sequence of letters and numbers on the bit of perspex, then one 911 has clearly been "enhanced". Fair enough. Such is your prerogative. Does a round-number VIN also make one "better" than the other? After all, that'll stay with the car for life, not be changed on the whim of the owner.

[quote]You argue that any money spent on a car that isn't somehow improving the dynamics is a waste.
No, I said that the actual sequence of letters and numbers on a plate don't make any difference at all to the way the car drove - and that the way the car drove was the reason petrolheads did the man-maths for a 911 or similar. And it doesn't. Which is what I actually said, if you bother to read it... Not all 911 owners are petrolheads, of course. Many are shallow posers in the grip of a mid-life crisis.

TooMany2cvs said:
Vanishingly few people care what your registration "says", and it makes absolutely no difference to the dynamics of your car. After all, the dynamics, the way it drives, are the reason why us petrolheads do the man-maths for things like 911s, right?

Enhanced? No. Better tyres would enhance it. A suspension refresh and upgrade would enhance it. There are catalogues full of shiny things to enhance the way a dozen-year-old 911 drives. But a couple of bits of ten quid perspex that just happen to have a slightly different sequence of letters and numbers? Can somebody explain how that works to me...?

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
"enhanced" "enhanced" Enhanced? enhance it. enhance it. enhance
Enhance...scratchchin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhF_56SxrGk

fulham911club

2,046 posts

242 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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LAWSY1 said:
fulham911club said:
LAWSY1 said:
fulham911club said:
LAWSY1 said:
Mark-C said:
911 LAW is available for £15k ... you could pay for it out of the money you save not getting fined ....
Yes. 3 guesses where that plate currently sits....
If you really have paid £15k for that plate and it sits on your "911 turbo" then why oh why have you been wasting your time and breaking the law trying to make some stty old number plate appear "cool" and then coming on here whining about being tugged by your boyfriend copper for displaying said illegal plate?

Really, and I mean really I'd like to know.



(or are you just a total tt?)
Get back in yer pram yer clown. None of your business what I paid for it, but about of fifth of asking if it REALLY matters. Not that it any of your business anyways
Erm - babies normally are associated with prams not clowns.

I wasn't asking what you paid for your vanity plate as I really couldn't care less. What I was asking (if you can read) was why if you can afford such plate did you waste so much of your time (and seemingly PH time) whining about a mis-spaced plate?

(and the use of the c word is really unnecessary)
You come on here, dishing out abuse by the bucketload and when its fired back, u want your teddy. Look in the mirror big boy.
And you still haven't answered the question...

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
Patronising dictionary definition and other diatribe.
Whatever, you win. biggrin

It is definitely only worth ever spending money on a car if it 'enhances' it dynamically, but for some unexplained and ethereal reason there is NO point in simply buying a dynamically superior car, even if your only criteria for judging a car is dynamics because that is all that matters to you. thumbup

And anyone who dares venture an alternative opinion cannot possibly be a proper red blooded manly man's man petrol head like you! bow

There you go big man, I think that covers it for you, well done on winning an internet argument on a matter that is entirely subjective (there's link just above if you want to look that up). smile