Private Plate PLOD aggro!

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Starfighter said:
So, what to we think the fine will be?
Entirely dependent on attitude.

<looks back through thread>
Any bets on contempt of court?

GEARJAMMER

445 posts

139 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Sorry, I read to page 7 got bored then jumped to page 21
(yes I lasted until page 7, good ain't I, lol)

If the OP had been pulled by numerous amounts of different coppers I could understand, but just out of interest does anyone think its possible that the court will look at this and think 'well the OP has had this plate for x amount of years and no other officer has complained about it, so why is this one wasting my time with it now?'

In the great scheme of things its not a terrible crime, you'd think the copper would have better things to do, while everyone is saying the OP is a cock etc (and im half inclined to agree), im also half inclined to think the copper is being a cock as well.
Why does this plate seem to bother this officer, but seemingly, not others?

(just for the record im not taking sides, just sitting on the fence)

Greendubber

13,206 posts

203 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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GEARJAMMER said:
Sorry, I read to page 7 got bored then jumped to page 21
(yes I lasted until page 7, good ain't I, lol)

If the OP had been pulled by numerous amounts of different coppers I could understand, but just out of interest does anyone think its possible that the court will look at this and think 'well the OP has had this plate for x amount of years and no other officer has complained about it, so why is this one wasting my time with it now?'

In the great scheme of things its not a terrible crime, you'd think the copper would have better things to do, while everyone is saying the OP is a cock etc (and im half inclined to agree), im also half inclined to think the copper is being a cock as well.
Why does this plate seem to bother this officer, but seemingly, not others?

(just for the record im not taking sides, just sitting on the fence)
It's illegal, he's doing his job so the only cock here is the OP.

The court will also see it as illegal too regardless of which officer did what.

Humper

946 posts

162 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Ari said:
walm said:
Unlike most I can WELL believe that the DVLA advertised it mis-spaced to maximise their income.
However, that was a LOOOONG time ago.
They didn't though, they really didn't! biggrin

It would be political suicide for a government department to blatantly advertise plates for sale displayed in a way that would be illegal!

Loads of commercial businesses did and still do (really terrible ones too, there used to be loads in the back of Autocar, don't know if there still is).

But no government is going to open themselves to a st storm of criticism in that way.
Really, having recently been in the market for a plate for my Merc(fourth plate I now "own") I have been trawling through many companies, and DVLA auctions. To say the DVLA don't actively encourage you to mis-space the plates may be true(though many years ago I was offered, by the DVLA salesman, when telephoning one that would be mis-spaced to read something else) but if you check the auction reserves, plates that can be fked about with have a higher reserve than similar.

Though I also feel the op is a fanny too.....

JagXJR

1,261 posts

129 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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MGJohn said:
Somehow some folks were able to obtain "personal" plates well before DVLA put the "For Sale" signs up. Even back in the 1950-60s. Back then in Gloucester, a local dealership had a Sunbeam Alpine with the now very desirable plate OB 1 .. O and B being the initials of the chap's name. Another local had a Connaught with the plate 100 MPH.

Move on about ten years when BMC had a dealership in the centre of Cheltenham, an Austin/Morris 1100 parked nearby had the local registration ODD 1E... Ideal for a certain Goody TV Ornithologist Chappie.

New Car dealerships used to be issued with batches of Reg Nos maybe still do. They could allocate them to each new car sold. Maybe that's how those unusual personal plates were obtained.

As a car mad teenager back then, seeing things like that formed a lasting impression.
Well done MGJohn for being the first person to call these plates by the correct name. Personalised plates. Not private plates not vanity plates or any other.

Calling them vanity plates or chav plates makes you sound as idiotic as the person who buys these plates and illegally alters them!

OP this is for you. It is illegal to alter these plates, you know it from the 3 times you have been pulled and fined for it. The wording of your post criticising the police office for doing his job has not garnered any sympathy for you. In addition you drive a 911, well known for being the car of choice for knobs. Not saying you are one but surely you can see why some on here have come to that conclusion?

About all I can say until finished reading the whole thread.

JagXJR

1,261 posts

129 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
Not just me, then.

I mean, yes, I can understand that some people really like vanity plates. Fine. I don't get why, but I know they do. If we look at the population as a whole, 'm far in the vast majority here, though, and - yes - to me a 911 with a vanity plate - especially an arches-and-wings turbo with a mis-spaced and in need of the explanatory line underneath cheapie, like L17wsy's original - really does shout "I'm balding, getting tubby, and the dangly bits aren't what they used to be, but I'm in denial".

Vanishingly few people care what your registration "says", and it makes absolutely no difference to the dynamics of your car. After all, the dynamics, the way it drives, are the reason why us petrolheads do the man-maths for things like 911s, right?

Enhanced? No. Better tyres would enhance it. A suspension refresh and upgrade would enhance it. There are catalogues full of shiny things to enhance the way a dozen-year-old 911 drives. But a couple of bits of ten quid perspex that just happen to have a slightly different sequence of letters and numbers? Can somebody explain how that works to me...?

And I _like_ cars... Imagine what it shouts to Joe and Jane Toyota-white-goods...?
"L17WSY" is going to get Carly Simon earworming them - or just ignored.
"911LAW" is going to get "Well, yes, I can see it's a Porsche, you shallow little solicitor".

Or it might make some people think that you're some kind of Ground Zero conspiracy theorist...
Will people stop calling them vanity plates, makes you sound like an American. Unless that is the image you are going for?

ETA

Yes I can explain. To take some worn looking old plates off and put shiney new ones on. Smartens the car up, like replacing faded badges or respraying the car. Even better if they are related to the car like the 911 plate the OP finally came to his senses and bought.

Surely some on here must see and understand that someone likes to take pride in his car??? It is a site for enthusiasts after all!

I don't really like the 911 personally but each to their own, I respect others who like a nice car and take pride in owning it.

People need to stop being so judgemental!


Edited by JagXJR on Saturday 28th February 20:42

JagXJR

1,261 posts

129 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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GEARJAMMER said:
Sorry, I read to page 7 got bored then jumped to page 21
(yes I lasted until page 7, good ain't I, lol)

If the OP had been pulled by numerous amounts of different coppers I could understand, but just out of interest does anyone think its possible that the court will look at this and think 'well the OP has had this plate for x amount of years and no other officer has complained about it, so why is this one wasting my time with it now?'

In the great scheme of things its not a terrible crime, you'd think the copper would have better things to do, while everyone is saying the OP is a cock etc (and im half inclined to agree), im also half inclined to think the copper is being a cock as well.
Why does this plate seem to bother this officer, but seemingly, not others?

(just for the record im not taking sides, just sitting on the fence)
I just about managed them all, was hard going with some of it!

It has been known in the past, plus the copper getting a bking from the judge to boot.

Lets hope that is how it goes for the OP in this case, but as said his attitude will be the key. Hope it is better than has been displayed on here, and that he takes the advice on board.

OP, suggest you calmly explain your case in court. Don't criticize the police officer as this will go against you and avoid profanity. If the car has gone through an MOT with the plates on then explain this , and that you realised the plates were incorrectly displayed so have removed them. You never know, you may get a break.

Been some good advice on here amongst the banter, hope you take it on board.

Mopar440

410 posts

112 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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JagXJR said:
People need to stop being so judgemental!
JagXJR said:
The 8 or 10 or so Lycra clad muppets on cycles riding around the NSL country roads around a reservoir near my house close to dinnertime today. Riding nose to tail leaving no gap to pull into if I am trying to get past. When I overtook you given a reasonable clear straight, the leaders proceeded to overtake some parked vehicles without even a backward glance, causing me to sound the horn to alert you to the fact I was there. I could still get past but it was a bit tight and did not want you to suddenly veer into my path without looking. Giving me the beans in no way improves my opinion of you and your crap riding, neither did you shouting "wker". I had the Mrs in the car FFS!

In fact it is a good job the Mrs was in the car as otherwise I may have stopped the car and wrapped the bike around your ears and threw you both in the reservoir!

Suggestion. Instead of riding around like a tit in my home neighbourhood upsetting the locals, why don't you ride like a tit near your own house?

JagXJR

1,261 posts

129 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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If you ride/drive like a tt then people are going to comment as such, is stating a fact

If someone has a 911 and you call them a tt just because of it, that is judgemental.

You do understand the meaning of the word judgemental I take it?

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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There seems to be a proliferation of members with a username relating to a British motor manufacturer on these forums that seem to have a bit of an attitude 'issue'.

JagXJR

1,261 posts

129 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Another example of judgemental.

I tend to get a bit of flack as I am outspoken and don't allowed myself to be bullied.

Therefore I can assure you that it is not just users with British car themed usernames that like to dish it out, but don't like receiving it.

ATTAK Z

11,002 posts

189 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I understand the meaning of the word 'judgemental' but the word 'tt' sounds so good ... it just rolls off the tongue

eldar

21,742 posts

196 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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JagXJR said:
Another example of judgemental.

I tend to get a bit of flack as I am outspoken and don't allowed myself to be bullied.

Therefore I can assure you that it is not just users with British car themed usernames that like to dish it out, but don't like receiving it.
Indian, not British car?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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JagXJR said:
Will people stop calling them vanity plates, makes you sound like an American. Unless that is the image you are going for?
It's exactly what they are.

EVERY plate on every car is unique. It is not possible to personalise something that's unique. Personalisation adds individual touches to something that is generic and mass-produced. A registration is not that, since it is the only identical combination issued, by definition.

Wanting to have your nickname on either end of your car is vanity. No more, no less. Actually, there is an alternate possibility, thinking about it. Dementia.

JagXJR said:
To take some worn looking old plates off and put shiney new ones on. Smartens the car up, like replacing faded badges or respraying the car.
New physical pieces of perspex replacing scruffy, damaged ones will do that anyway, if that's your concern. The combination of letters and numbers on the perspex is irrelevant.

allergictocheese

1,290 posts

113 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Of course you can personalise something unique. Being unique and being personalised are two entirely different concepts.


trashbat

6,006 posts

153 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Fun fact: the OP was actually the subject of everyone's favourite Judas Priest song, 'Breaking the L17W'.

JagXJR

1,261 posts

129 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
JagXJR said:
Will people stop calling them vanity plates, makes you sound like an American. Unless that is the image you are going for?
It's exactly what they are.

EVERY plate on every car is unique. It is not possible to personalise something that's unique. Personalisation adds individual touches to something that is generic and mass-produced. A registration is not that, since it is the only identical combination issued, by definition.

Wanting to have your nickname on either end of your car is vanity. No more, no less. Actually, there is an alternate possibility, thinking about it. Dementia.

JagXJR said:
To take some worn looking old plates off and put shiney new ones on. Smartens the car up, like replacing faded badges or respraying the car.
New physical pieces of perspex replacing scruffy, damaged ones will do that anyway, if that's your concern. The combination of letters and numbers on the perspex is irrelevant.
The DVLA call them personalised plates, suggest you take it up with them.

I would agree with you if they all spelt the persons name, but they don't. Some are just none dating letters and numbers.

As said, personalisation is taking something and changing it to be more what you would like it to be, doesn't matter if it is unique or not to start with.

BertBert

19,038 posts

211 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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trashbat said:
Fun fact: the OP was actually the subject of everyone's favourite Judas Priest song, 'Breaking the L17W'.
I think it's more the Clash than Judas Priest.
Bert

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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JagXJR said:
The DVLA call them personalised plates
That's nice, dear.

JagXJR said:
As said, personalisation is taking something and changing it to be more what you would like it to be
Which, after all, is exactly what L17wsy is facing a court date for doing, is it not? It said L17 WSY, he wanted it to say "Lawsy", so he changed it to be more like what he wanted it to be.

Jon1967x

7,225 posts

124 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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JagXJR said:
Another example of judgemental.

I tend to get a bit of flack as I am outspoken and don't allowed myself to be bullied.

Therefore I can assure you that it is not just users with British car themed usernames that like to dish it out, but don't like receiving it.
You're not being bullied, it's more likely you are the bully.

Which bit of judgmental do you not understand calling cyclists "Lycra clad muppets"?

The sad thing is you can't see it and your defence is to claim you're the aggrieved.