Private Plate PLOD aggro!
Discussion
Its been quite amusing reading all the comments on this thread and I guess people are entitled to different opinions so who to say who is right or wrong.
In the past my thoughts about private or personal registrations is that some plates on some cars look good and others look naff,car related plates can look good but if you sell the car and get another make the plate would have to go with the car but would have thought if you have a nice plate best to chose one that you can use on any car,Miss placed or altered plates are against the law pure and simple so the police should make you put them back to original which generally they dont seam to bother with much with all the cars I see with them.
I always smile for the last 15 years when I see two cars by me that have personal plates,the cars are very old and worth less than a grand and both have the number one and two popular letters for someones initials.So a one grand car with a plate worth 20-50 grand but guess the old people have had these plates for maybe 30-40 years.I wonder if they know what their plates are worth.
I bought a 52 reg car about 6 years ago and after 6 months of ownership when I opened the garage door the first thing I saw was the 52 plate and thought perhaps I should buy a newer car even though the car was as good as new inside and out.
About six months later a friend who works for the DVLA in Swansea E-mailed me a list of over a thousand plates that did not fetch their reserve price at their auction and asked if I wanted to make an offer on one.The only one that I was interested in was two numbers and two letters that had a reserve price of £2600.I offered him less than half for the plate including VAT and assisgnment fee.They accepted my offer.
So for me the benefits of buying this plate is that although the letters are not my initials it does not bother me but the thousands of cars that pass me dont know this,it looks good on my car,is worth about four times what I paid for it and the most important thing for me I have never thought the car is old and not thought of changing my car so saved me a quite a bit of money in the last 5 years.
In the past my thoughts about private or personal registrations is that some plates on some cars look good and others look naff,car related plates can look good but if you sell the car and get another make the plate would have to go with the car but would have thought if you have a nice plate best to chose one that you can use on any car,Miss placed or altered plates are against the law pure and simple so the police should make you put them back to original which generally they dont seam to bother with much with all the cars I see with them.
I always smile for the last 15 years when I see two cars by me that have personal plates,the cars are very old and worth less than a grand and both have the number one and two popular letters for someones initials.So a one grand car with a plate worth 20-50 grand but guess the old people have had these plates for maybe 30-40 years.I wonder if they know what their plates are worth.
I bought a 52 reg car about 6 years ago and after 6 months of ownership when I opened the garage door the first thing I saw was the 52 plate and thought perhaps I should buy a newer car even though the car was as good as new inside and out.
About six months later a friend who works for the DVLA in Swansea E-mailed me a list of over a thousand plates that did not fetch their reserve price at their auction and asked if I wanted to make an offer on one.The only one that I was interested in was two numbers and two letters that had a reserve price of £2600.I offered him less than half for the plate including VAT and assisgnment fee.They accepted my offer.
So for me the benefits of buying this plate is that although the letters are not my initials it does not bother me but the thousands of cars that pass me dont know this,it looks good on my car,is worth about four times what I paid for it and the most important thing for me I have never thought the car is old and not thought of changing my car so saved me a quite a bit of money in the last 5 years.
btcc123 said:
About six months later a friend who works for the DVLA in Swansea E-mailed me a list of over a thousand plates that did not fetch their reserve price at their auction and asked if I wanted to make an offer on one.The only one that I was interested in was two numbers and two letters that had a reserve price of £2600.I offered him less than half for the plate including VAT and assisgnment fee.They accepted my offer.
Is this mate's rates or can anyone get the list off DVLA and make a bid?I think they have changed their procedure now as after the auctions all the number that dont meet the reserve they normally send the numbers by E-mail to all the people that have registered for a catalogue.They advertise the numbers at the reserve price plus VAT and transfer fee but dont know if they are open to offers or not.
Maybe my offer was mates rates I am not sure but will find out if they are open to offers.
Maybe my offer was mates rates I am not sure but will find out if they are open to offers.
btcc123 said:
About six months later a friend who works for the DVLA in Swansea E-mailed me a list of over a thousand plates that did not fetch their reserve price at their auction and asked if I wanted to make an offer on one.The only one that I was interested in was two numbers and two letters that had a reserve price of £2600.I offered him less than half for the plate including VAT and assisgnment fee.They accepted my offer.
it ...is worth about four times what I paid for it
<scratches head> So, basically, nobody that saw the DVLA auction list realised that this plate was worth twice what it was being sold for...? Given that something is only "worth" what somebody's prepared to pay for it, I'd suggest that it's worth exactly what you paid for it and not a penny more. Definitely not twice what nobody wanted to pay for it.it ...is worth about four times what I paid for it
btcc123 said:
and the most important thing for me I have never thought the car is old and not thought of changing my car
But it's the same damn car...?!?I'm reminded of the joke about the idiot who had his car clocked before he tried to sell it - then decided he didn't want to sell it, because it was really low mileage...
btcc123 said:
... although the letters are not my initials it does not bother me but the thousands of cars that pass me dont know this...
Huh. So you're normal old 'Derek Smuthole', or whatever, but you want thousands of strangers you'll never meet to think you're actually wealthy 'Boris Rutting'.This is weird. Vanity one-place-removed.
A guy who isn't you, but who lives in your head, drives around in your car impressing the traffic.
btcc123 said:
the most important thing for me I have never thought the car is old and not thought of changing my car so saved me a quite a bit of money in the last 5 years.
It only cost you ~ £1300 to fool yourself into not thinking your car is old. I have saved even more than that by .......oh no, never mind, you wouldn't get it....
BTW I wouldn't want such a brief reg - far too memorable.
V8forweekends said:
BTW I wouldn't want such a brief reg - far too memorable.
I've thought that this is a big downside to private plates.When I'm driving around and see knobbish driving, it's the ones with the private plates that I remember. KL52 FGT is much harder to remember that P155 OFF
.SpeckledJim said:
btcc123 said:
... although the letters are not my initials it does not bother me but the thousands of cars that pass me dont know this...
Huh. So you're normal old 'Derek Smuthole', or whatever, but you want thousands of strangers you'll never meet to think you're actually wealthy 'Boris Rutting'.This is weird. Vanity one-place-removed.
A guy who isn't you, but who lives in your head, drives around in your car impressing the traffic.
Its a shame that other posters dont accept other peoples opinion,views and thoughts and insist their views are what everyone should have but remember everyone is different.I could share my views on people that have too many vehicles that started use as farm vehicles but if people like them then thats fine.
<scratches head> So, basically, nobody that saw the DVLA auction list realised that this plate was worth twice what it was being sold for...? Given that something is only "worth" what somebody's prepared to pay for it, I'd suggest that it's worth exactly what you paid for it and not a penny more. Definitely not twice what nobody wanted to pay for it.
Nobody else saw the DVLA auction list as it was only sent to me.I bought the plate I liked at just under half the price it was advertised for so thought I had a good deal.I agree that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it but if you look for similar numbers with two numbers and BR on New Reg and National Numbers etc they vary between 4-8k so I think that it may be worth more than I paid for it.
But it's the same damn car...?!?
Yes its the same car but in my opinion with a private plate and not being reminded that its a 2003 car with the old plate and as it is in lovely condition makes me not want to sell it.Whats wrong with that.
<scratches head> So, basically, nobody that saw the DVLA auction list realised that this plate was worth twice what it was being sold for...? Given that something is only "worth" what somebody's prepared to pay for it, I'd suggest that it's worth exactly what you paid for it and not a penny more. Definitely not twice what nobody wanted to pay for it.
Nobody else saw the DVLA auction list as it was only sent to me.I bought the plate I liked at just under half the price it was advertised for so thought I had a good deal.I agree that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it but if you look for similar numbers with two numbers and BR on New Reg and National Numbers etc they vary between 4-8k so I think that it may be worth more than I paid for it.
But it's the same damn car...?!?
Yes its the same car but in my opinion with a private plate and not being reminded that its a 2003 car with the old plate and as it is in lovely condition makes me not want to sell it.Whats wrong with that.
btcc123 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
<scratches head> So, basically, nobody that saw the DVLA auction list realised that this plate was worth twice what it was being sold for...? Given that something is only "worth" what somebody's prepared to pay for it, I'd suggest that it's worth exactly what you paid for it and not a penny more. Definitely not twice what nobody wanted to pay for it.
Nobody else saw the DVLA auction list as it was only sent to me.btcc123 said:
I bought the plate I liked at just under half the price it was advertised
Right, so people DID see it for sale at twice the price you paid - half what you think it's "worth" - but nobody wanted to pay it.btcc123 said:
I agree that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it but if you look for similar numbers with two numbers and BR on New Reg and National Numbers etc they vary between 4-8k so I think that it may be worth more than I paid for it.
But does anybody pay those prices...?If I place an advert in the national press for this half-eaten sandwich for two grand, then put it on eBay with a grand as a reserve, would you be willing to pay me £500 for it, on the basis that it's a real "bargain" and worth two grand?
btcc123 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
But it's the same damn car...?!?
Yes its the same car but in my opinion with a private plate and not being reminded that its a 2003 car with the old plate and as it is in lovely condition makes me not want to sell it.Whats wrong with that.btcc123 said:
Yes its the same car but in my opinion with a private plate and not being reminded that its a 2003 car with the old plate and as it is in lovely condition makes me not want to sell it.Whats wrong with that.
Most people know what you mean best ignore the trolls they wont see sense, whatever you say.
Typical ph. Op has a mis spaced illegal plate, now we are slagging off all private plates, personalised, vanity what f
king ever.
I currently have a few, I like them, i earned the money to buy a couple, a couple were birthday presents, i am currently sending the retention certificate off to put one on another car. Some of mine are vehicle related, some are a short version of my name, this newest is my initials, none are put on to disguise the age, they're on because i like them. I may buy another next year, my money, my choice. Though I won't buy one to alter it to read something else, that's sad.
king ever.I currently have a few, I like them, i earned the money to buy a couple, a couple were birthday presents, i am currently sending the retention certificate off to put one on another car. Some of mine are vehicle related, some are a short version of my name, this newest is my initials, none are put on to disguise the age, they're on because i like them. I may buy another next year, my money, my choice. Though I won't buy one to alter it to read something else, that's sad.
Humper said:
Typical ph. Op has a mis spaced illegal plate, now we are slagging off all private plates, personalised, vanity what fking ever.
I currently have a few, I like them, i earned the money to buy a couple, a couple were birthday presents, i am currently sending the retention certificate off to put one on another car. Some of mine are vehicle related, some are a short version of my name, this newest is my initials, none are put on to disguise the age, they're on because i like them. I may buy another next year, my money, my choice. Though I won't buy one to alter it to read something else, that's sad.
aside from the relative tackyness of mis represented plates / complete waste of money aspect of any none standard plate ( aside from those who simply keep transfering a dateless plate acquired by themselves or family in the past)king ever.I currently have a few, I like them, i earned the money to buy a couple, a couple were birthday presents, i am currently sending the retention certificate off to put one on another car. Some of mine are vehicle related, some are a short version of my name, this newest is my initials, none are put on to disguise the age, they're on because i like them. I may buy another next year, my money, my choice. Though I won't buy one to alter it to read something else, that's sad.
the dislike for the OP has come from
- misrepresentation
- not understanding you only pay to 'rent' the plate from the DVLA ( which is where the de-registering free wibblers get their idea that they can de -register is they are not a 'driver' )
- repeated failures of the attitude test
- not taking the hint the first time he got stopped
btcc123 said:
Its a shame that other posters dont accept other peoples opinion,views and thoughts and insist their views are what everyone should have but remember everyone is different.
You came on here and posted a picture of your car with the reg number and explained the man maths you used to justify it. Several people offered other opinions and/or questioned the logic. Acceptance isn't the same as agreement. Just as you demand that the rest of us accept you have a perfect right to buy whatever plate you want and stick on any car you want, you're going to have to accept that not everyone will like it or agree with your logic.
btcc123 said:
Yes its the same car but in my opinion with a private plate and not being reminded that its a 2003 car with the old plate and as it is in lovely condition makes me not want to sell it.Whats wrong with that.
It just seems very odd that spending that cash on a reg number can “fool” you into thinking your car isn't the age it is. You obviously attribute a lot of value to what other people think of your car too, or you wouldn't have posted about what “other cars” are thinking/know. The contrary view is that many drivers of other cars simply won't know or care. You better get used to this – because in addition to those folk, there are people like me who (whilst accepting you have a perfect right to put whatever plate you like on your car providing it's legal) are mystified by why you wouldn't spend the money on trackdays, tyres, coke, hookers whatever.
rallycross said:
btcc123 said:
Yes its the same car but in my opinion with a private plate and not being reminded that its a 2003 car with the old plate and as it is in lovely condition makes me not want to sell it.Whats wrong with that.
Most people know what you mean best ignore the trolls they wont see sense, whatever you say.ks. Not everyone likes or sees the value of these plates having an opinion and expressing it isn't trolling.Humper said:
Typical ph. Op has a mis spaced illegal plate, now we are slagging off all private plates, personalised, vanity what fking ever.
We slagged the OP for his daft approach as much as anything.king ever.Some people have expressed mystification on the appeal of Private plates - we don't have a cosy consensus that all private plates are automatically a good idea, learn to live with it.
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