Driver Jailed for using Jammer

[mybrainhurts]

La Liga said:

mybrainhurts said:

judging by the number of blockheads I see driving, completely oblivious to the big ambulances up their arses.

The same blockheads you want being able to pick judge their own speed who you describe has having poor observation skills?

Off topic, but never mind.

You assert that, in the event of no NSL, those with poor observation skills would increase their speed?

Where is your evidence for that?

I suggest that poor observation of what's surrounding them comes with poor observation of their speedometers. I have one living near me, she doesn't know what the NSLs are.

[mph1977]

mybrainhurts said:

La Liga said:

mybrainhurts said:

judging by the number of blockheads I see driving, completely oblivious to the big ambulances up their arses.

The same blockheads you want being able to pick judge their own speed who you describe has having poor observation skills?

Off topic, but never mind.

You assert that, in the event of no NSL, those with poor observation skills would increase their speed?

Where is your evidence for that?

I suggest that poor observation of what's surrounding them comes with poor observation of their speedometers. I have one living near me, she doesn't know what the NSLs are.

what would happen if in the PHer powerfully built wet dream of removal of the NSL is the following

1. more road rage as the Powerfully built leave even less time for their journey including more bunching and associated collisions as the powerfully built attempt to turn lane 3 / 4 into the ' wker lane' where excessive speed is the norm regardless of conditions

2. a lot more crippled youngsters in the Spinal injuries and head injury rehab units as their egos write cheques their bodies cannot cash , and a proportion of them needing 24 houtr care for the rest of their lives

3.

[mybrainhurts]

mph1977 said:

mybrainhurts said:

La Liga said:

mybrainhurts said:

judging by the number of blockheads I see driving, completely oblivious to the big ambulances up their arses.

The same blockheads you want being able to pick judge their own speed who you describe has having poor observation skills?

Off topic, but never mind.

You assert that, in the event of no NSL, those with poor observation skills would increase their speed?

Where is your evidence for that?

I suggest that poor observation of what's surrounding them comes with poor observation of their speedometers. I have one living near me, she doesn't know what the NSLs are.

what would happen if in the PHer powerfully built wet dream of removal of the NSL is the following

1. more road rage as the Powerfully built leave even less time for their journey including more bunching and associated collisions as the powerfully built attempt to turn lane 3 / 4 into the ' wker lane' where excessive speed is the norm regardless of conditions

2. a lot more crippled youngsters in the Spinal injuries and head injury rehab units as their egos write cheques their bodies cannot cash , and a proportion of them needing 24 houtr care for the rest of their lives

3.

Just quoting that for posterity. Are you drunk?

[Red Devil]

Dave Hedgehog said:

since speed detectors are legal how can a judge ordered it destroyed, or are judges allowed to destroy anything that's legal but they take a dislike to?

Because, whereas a speed detector is perfectly legal, a jammer isn't. I trust you understand the difference.
It was the jammer function which caused the judge to issue the confiscation and destruction of the device.

[anonymous-user]

mybrainhurts said:

La Liga said:

mybrainhurts said:

judging by the number of blockheads I see driving, completely oblivious to the big ambulances up their arses.

The same blockheads you want being able to pick judge their own speed who you describe has having poor observation skills?

Off topic, but never mind.

You assert that, in the event of no NSL, those with poor observation skills would increase their speed?

Where is your evidence for that?

Because they have a lack of judgement for driving to the circumstances and picking the appropriate actions and responses.

Similarly, where's your evidence the laws aren't made to protect road users? What else are the made to do, kill people?

[tapereel]

mybrainhurts said:

La Liga said:

mybrainhurts said:

judging by the number of blockheads I see driving, completely oblivious to the big ambulances up their arses.

The same blockheads you want being able to pick judge their own speed who you describe has having poor observation skills?

Off topic, but never mind.

[b]You assert that, in the event of no NSL, those with poor observation skills would increase their speed?
Where is your evidence for that?[/b]

I suggest that poor observation of what's surrounding them comes with poor observation of their speedometers. I have one living near me, she doesn't know what the NSLs are.

I have seen thousands and thousands of them doing just that in the sights of a laser speedmeter and that's just me...does that count?

[agtlaw]

Red Devil said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

since speed detectors are legal how can a judge ordered it destroyed, or are judges allowed to destroy anything that's legal but they take a dislike to?

Because, whereas a speed detector is perfectly legal, a jammer isn't. I trust you understand the difference.
It was the jammer function which caused the judge to issue the confiscation and destruction of the device.

The item doesn't have to be 'illegal' for it to be subject to a destruction order. E.g. a knife used in the commission of a crime dealt with at court would likely be destroyed.

[Guybrush]

mybrainhurts said:

mph1977 said:

mybrainhurts said:

La Liga said:

mybrainhurts said:

judging by the number of blockheads I see driving, completely oblivious to the big ambulances up their arses.

The same blockheads you want being able to pick judge their own speed who you describe has having poor observation skills?

Off topic, but never mind.

You assert that, in the event of no NSL, those with poor observation skills would increase their speed?

Where is your evidence for that?

I suggest that poor observation of what's surrounding them comes with poor observation of their speedometers. I have one living near me, she doesn't know what the NSLs are.

what would happen if in the PHer powerfully built wet dream of removal of the NSL is the following

1. more road rage as the Powerfully built leave even less time for their journey including more bunching and associated collisions as the powerfully built attempt to turn lane 3 / 4 into the ' wker lane' where excessive speed is the norm regardless of conditions

2. a lot more crippled youngsters in the Spinal injuries and head injury rehab units as their egos write cheques their bodies cannot cash , and a proportion of them needing 24 houtr care for the rest of their lives

3.

Just quoting that for posterity. Are you drunk?

Maybe just hysterical at the thought of people being able to do something without being controlled?

[supermono]

I'm afraid that like the milk float, bus, brick wall or whatever other items have been clocked going at impossible speeds, I might be recorded speeding and since the only defence seems to be physical impossibility, I could find myself banned because of slip error.

So to my mind a jammer is a good way of defending against the Speed Camera Parasites (SCPs) perverting the course of justice.

We know these things are unreliable right?

[Dr Jekyll]

La Liga said:

Similarly, where's your evidence the laws aren't made to protect road users? What else are the made to do, kill people?

Vonhosen's frequent justifications of low speed limits on the grounds that they aren't purely about safety but also environmental considerations.

[thescamper]

Eclassy said:

Speed Kills!

And just because that stupid phrase pi55es me off, No it doesn't its the stopping that kills you, if you want to use the word speed than at least have the decency to put the word 'Inappropriate' in front of it.

[Dave Hedgehog]

Red Devil said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

since speed detectors are legal how can a judge ordered it destroyed, or are judges allowed to destroy anything that's legal but they take a dislike to?

Because, whereas a speed detector is perfectly legal, a jammer isn't. I trust you understand the difference.
It was the jammer function which caused the judge to issue the confiscation and destruction of the device.

please learn to read

the judge destroyed the jammer (dubious since they are not illegal and bending a cover all law in the same way they used to do to detectors) and also a detector

ordered the destruction of the device and also of a snooper device fitted to the dashboard

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 25th February 10:25

[anonymous-user]

Dr Jekyll said:

La Liga said:

Similarly, where's your evidence the laws aren't made to protect road users? What else are the made to do, kill people?

Vonhosen's frequent justifications of low speed limits on the grounds that they aren't purely about safety but also environmental considerations.

That doesn't mean they aren't made to protect road users. Something can have multiple benefits.

Dave Hedgehog said:

please learn to read

the judge destroyed the jammer (dubious since they are not illegal and bending a cover all law in the same way they used to do to detectors) and also a detector

ordered the destruction of the device and also of a snooper device fitted to the dashboard

Because it was a device that facilitated the offending, I presume.

A kitchen knife isn't illegal (in a dwelling for those who think of 'offensive weapon / bladed article'), but a judge will probably order the destruction of one used to stab someone.

[Dave Hedgehog]

I read that it was a second traditional detector device that was also destroyed, to my knowledge snooper do not make jammers

the jammer would have had its own detector/control unit

http://www.snooper.co.uk/speed-trap-detection.html

[H20MRV]

Nope, blinder, not laser star.

http://www.blinderdirect.co.uk/?gclid=CLu1ve2X-MMC...

BobSaunders said:

Appears to be a Laser Star device.

"The Laser Star Pro not only provides an audible and visual warning to the presence of 904nm laser but by using very fast microchip technology and a Class 1 laser diode the system will also fire back matching the same frequency and pulse rate. This confuses the mobile laser speed camera equipment and preventing it from calculating a speed reading giving you enough time to brake and adjust your speed accordingly for 4-8 seconds before it automatically switches off letting a slower speed reading then be obtained."

[photosnob]

Dave Hedgehog said:

please learn to read

the judge destroyed the jammer (dubious since they are not illegal and bending a cover all law in the same way they used to do to detectors) and also a detector

ordered the destruction of the device and also of a snooper device fitted to the dashboard

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 25th February 10:25

Rubbish... I know loads of people who have had stuff taken and destroyed which is perfectly illegal to own but which was used for criminal purposes. They don't give you your tools back if you get nabbed. Actually they usually do - but that's more down to the fact that usually you plead guilty and the judge/magistrates don't really know or understand what you had, and the cps don't bother to go into it. They just want you in and out. That's my personal experience and it's quite out of date.

[MrHargreaves]

SkinnyPete said:

The police can arrest you for whatever they want and the courts can do as they please.

Nobody judges the judges.

http://judicialconduct.judiciary.gov.uk/

[stuart313]

La Liga said:

Dr Jekyll said:

La Liga said:

Similarly, where's your evidence the laws aren't made to protect road users? What else are the made to do, kill people?

Vonhosen's frequent justifications of low speed limits on the grounds that they aren't purely about safety but also environmental considerations.

That doesn't mean they aren't made to protect road users. Something can have multiple benefits.

Dave Hedgehog said:

please learn to read

the judge destroyed the jammer (dubious since they are not illegal and bending a cover all law in the same way they used to do to detectors) and also a detector

ordered the destruction of the device and also of a snooper device fitted to the dashboard

Because it was a device that facilitated the offending, I presume.

A kitchen knife isn't illegal (in a dwelling for those who think of 'offensive weapon / bladed article'), but a judge will probably order the destruction of one used to stab someone.

He wouldn't order the draw it was kept in to be destroyed as well though.

[anonymous-user]

The draw didn't facilitate the act and it's more general. The draw is like the car.

He may order a knife's sheath to be destroyed if it were carried in one prior to the act. That would be closer in terms of the analogy.

[stuart313]

I do find things like this confusing though. Someone who hasn't caused any harm or violence to anyone goes to jail....

Not jailed...



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2950467/Pi...

Could someone explain it to us simple peasants.