Speed Camera - margin?
Discussion
Kyodo said:
True. On a speed awareness course my wife was told the legal limit is exactly that. There was someone on her course for doing 32 in a 30.
On another forum I frequent a former traffic cop who takes a few speed awareness courses to supplement his meagre pension mentioned that he sometimes starts his sessions by asking everyone to introduce themselves by telling everyone their name and the speed they were caught at. As it happens, he already knows the speed everyone was caught at because it's printed on the list of attendees that he gets. Apparently there are always a few people who claim to have been done for a lower speed than they actually were. tapereel said:
mybrainhurts said:
Former Chief Con of South Yorkshire (the one who was done for 90-ish by Brunstrom's lot) set a number of South Yorkshire cameras to trigger at 32.
I thought this was a rumour until I met three people who had a fixed penalty for 32.
He didn't.I thought this was a rumour until I met three people who had a fixed penalty for 32.
agtlaw said:
People make mistakes.
They sure do...either that or they want to perpetuate a mischevious myth.mybrainhurts said:
Funny the Chief Con didn't deny it when it was reported in the local press at a time when there was a lot of anti camera sentiment in the national press, but then I guess you know better.
Why would he deny it? It's a rumour that works for him and keeps speeds nearer 30moh. LoonR1 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Funny the Chief Con didn't deny it when it was reported in the local press at a time when there was a lot of anti camera sentiment in the national press, but then I guess you know better.
Why would he deny it? It's a rumour that works for him and keeps speeds nearer 30moh. 
The news story source was South Yorks police.
mybrainhurts said:
tapereel said:
mybrainhurts said:
Former Chief Con of South Yorkshire (the one who was done for 90-ish by Brunstrom's lot) set a number of South Yorkshire cameras to trigger at 32.
I thought this was a rumour until I met three people who had a fixed penalty for 32.
He didn't.I thought this was a rumour until I met three people who had a fixed penalty for 32.
agtlaw said:
People make mistakes.
They sure do...either that or they want to perpetuate a mischevious myth.
tapereel said:
mybrainhurts said:
tapereel said:
mybrainhurts said:
Former Chief Con of South Yorkshire (the one who was done for 90-ish by Brunstrom's lot) set a number of South Yorkshire cameras to trigger at 32.
I thought this was a rumour until I met three people who had a fixed penalty for 32.
He didn't.I thought this was a rumour until I met three people who had a fixed penalty for 32.
agtlaw said:
People make mistakes.
They sure do...either that or they want to perpetuate a mischevious myth.Good idea. It was Med Hughes. Come back with the results. Look into his eyes as he replies.
Seriously, I'd be interested to hear the outcome, but assessing the honesty of an ex chief con and the people I met would be a difficult one.
Then again, should I believe you? Rumours and all that...
Edited by mybrainhurts on Monday 2nd March 15:55
LoonR1 said:
mybrainhurts said:
The pursuit of integrity....
The news story source was South Yorks police.
Do you think the hoed Constable of every force should deny or confirm every rumour? They'd be condemned for never doing their job, as it'd take so long. The news story source was South Yorks police.
LoonR1 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Not sure you understand the concept of an information source being the police service.
I certainly don't understand you and your conspiracy obsession Three members of the public tell me they had NIPs for 32 and the Sheffield press ran a story that Med Hughes set a small number of Gatsos to trigger at 32, story source being the South Yorkshire police.
Call me confused, but I can't tweak a conspiracy out of that.
agtlaw said:
mybrainhurts said:
Why did they do that?
People make mistakes.Devil2575 said:
agtlaw said:
mybrainhurts said:
Why did they do that?
People make mistakes.mybrainhurts said:
WTF are you talking about? What conspiracy?
Three members of the public tell me they had NIPs for 32 and the Sheffield press ran a story that Med Hughes set a small number of Gatsos to trigger at 32, story source being the South Yorkshire police.
Call me confused, but I can't tweak a conspiracy out of that.
And you're saying you expect him to either confirm or deny it. As he did neither you've got it into your head that "something fishy" is going on. Three members of the public tell me they had NIPs for 32 and the Sheffield press ran a story that Med Hughes set a small number of Gatsos to trigger at 32, story source being the South Yorkshire police.
Call me confused, but I can't tweak a conspiracy out of that.
I don't see why he should do anything. The rumour mill is doing him a favour. The stories of being done for 32 will be b
ks. LoonR1 said:
mybrainhurts said:
WTF are you talking about? What conspiracy?
Three members of the public tell me they had NIPs for 32 and the Sheffield press ran a story that Med Hughes set a small number of Gatsos to trigger at 32, story source being the South Yorkshire police.
Call me confused, but I can't tweak a conspiracy out of that.
And you're saying you expect him to either confirm or deny it.Three members of the public tell me they had NIPs for 32 and the Sheffield press ran a story that Med Hughes set a small number of Gatsos to trigger at 32, story source being the South Yorkshire police.
Call me confused, but I can't tweak a conspiracy out of that.
LoonR1 said:
As he did neither you've got it into your head that "something fishy" is going on.
Oh, is that what I'm doing? Well, blow me down.LoonR1 said:
The stories of being done for 32 will be bks.
You think there's a conspiracy going on, eh?ks. mybrainhurts said:
LoonR1 said:
mybrainhurts said:
WTF are you talking about? What conspiracy?
Three members of the public tell me they had NIPs for 32 and the Sheffield press ran a story that Med Hughes set a small number of Gatsos to trigger at 32, story source being the South Yorkshire police.
Call me confused, but I can't tweak a conspiracy out of that.
And you're saying you expect him to either confirm or deny it.Three members of the public tell me they had NIPs for 32 and the Sheffield press ran a story that Med Hughes set a small number of Gatsos to trigger at 32, story source being the South Yorkshire police.
Call me confused, but I can't tweak a conspiracy out of that.
LoonR1 said:
As he did neither you've got it into your head that "something fishy" is going on.
Oh, is that what I'm doing? Well, blow me down.LoonR1 said:
The stories of being done for 32 will be bks.
You think there's a conspiracy going on, eh?ks. I don't believe for one second that speeding tickets were issued for 32moh in a 30 limit. However, I also don't see why the Chief Constabke should have to deal with rumours doing the rounds. If people believe that will get done for 32 and slow down, the he's got what he wanted. Why start a debate when you've already won would be his approach and rightly so IMO.
LoonR1 said:
Oh yes very good. No I don't think there's a conspiracy. I think theres a load of people claiming to be being done for a speed that simply didn't happen. We've got a thread just like that on here and he OP won't post the evidence that he claims to have.
I don't believe for one second that speeding tickets were issued for 32moh in a 30 limit. However, I also don't see why the Chief Constabke should have to deal with rumours doing the rounds. If people believe that will get done for 32 and slow down, the he's got what he wanted. Why start a debate when you've already won would be his approach and rightly so IMO.
You don't seem able to process the difference between a chief con putting out a press release and "rumours doing the rounds".I don't believe for one second that speeding tickets were issued for 32moh in a 30 limit. However, I also don't see why the Chief Constabke should have to deal with rumours doing the rounds. If people believe that will get done for 32 and slow down, the he's got what he wanted. Why start a debate when you've already won would be his approach and rightly so IMO.
As for the three people I mentioned, you haven't met them, I have. I'm in a better position than you to judge their motives, or lack of motives.
If they'd been banging on about the injustice of being done for speeding, you would have a valid point and I wouldn't have remembered the encounters. What's different here is that, although a bit pissed off about 32, they really weren't complaining about the system or about being brought to book for exceeding the speed limit. They were not passionate about driving, rather the opposite, being late middle age/pensioners who considered driving a bit of a chore. Their partners confirmed the claimed speed and they reckon friends were surprised when they showed them the paperwork.
So, I asked myself, why would they make it up? The one thing they were adamant about was 32 and they paid up without hesitation.
Of course, you might be right and they could have been bulls
tting or mistaken, but I'm confident I've made a good judgement here. mybrainhurts said:
You don't seem able to process the difference between a chief con putting out a press release and "rumours doing the rounds".
As for the three people I mentioned, you haven't met them, I have. I'm in a better position than you to judge their motives, or lack of motives.
If they'd been banging on about the injustice of being done for speeding, you would have a valid point and I wouldn't have remembered the encounters. What's different here is that, although a bit pissed off about 32, they really weren't complaining about the system or about being brought to book for exceeding the speed limit. They were not passionate about driving, rather the opposite, being late middle age/pensioners who considered driving a bit of a chore. Their partners confirmed the claimed speed and they reckon friends were surprised when they showed them the paperwork.
So, I asked myself, why would they make it up? The one thing they were adamant about was 32 and they paid up without hesitation.
Of course, you might be right and they could have been bullstting or mistaken, but I'm confident I've made a good judgement here.
That's all fine and dandy. There have been countless tales of people on SACs for 32,33,34 MPH, but it's odd that no-one can ever produce the paperwork when asked. Just one, that's all it would take .....As for the three people I mentioned, you haven't met them, I have. I'm in a better position than you to judge their motives, or lack of motives.
If they'd been banging on about the injustice of being done for speeding, you would have a valid point and I wouldn't have remembered the encounters. What's different here is that, although a bit pissed off about 32, they really weren't complaining about the system or about being brought to book for exceeding the speed limit. They were not passionate about driving, rather the opposite, being late middle age/pensioners who considered driving a bit of a chore. Their partners confirmed the claimed speed and they reckon friends were surprised when they showed them the paperwork.
So, I asked myself, why would they make it up? The one thing they were adamant about was 32 and they paid up without hesitation.
Of course, you might be right and they could have been bulls
tting or mistaken, but I'm confident I've made a good judgement here. V8forweekends said:
That's all fine and dandy. There have been countless tales of people on SACs for 32,33,34 MPH, but it's odd that no-one can ever produce the paperwork when asked. Just one, that's all it would take .....
Yes, of course, there are loads of people keeping their paperwork in a safe place, just in case someone on a forum demands to see it. Hell, I bet many of them have it framed and hanging on a wall.Or they just might have chucked it away.
Quite why this has to be such a monumental issue is beyond me.
Kyodo said:
True. On a speed awareness course my wife was told the legal limit is exactly that. There was someone on her course for doing 32 in a 30. Hopefully the police show a little discretion and static cameras are set slightly high (?) to account for discrepancies.
IF the person on your wife's still has the paperwork- ask her to visit http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/index.php?sid=41... and post it up . PMB ( on here) GS on there wants to know. HE'S premised ( if his promises can be believed) to investigate. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff