M40 Seizure of Speeeeding Ferrari
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Greendubber said:
Correct although most of them are seized for insurance and licence offences. The operation was aimed at the ancient eastern european motors that have been here years with no documentation.
Not really. The majority have arrived in the last 12 months. 500+ seized so far. Jim1556 said:
JB! said:
Really?
Thats not how I read this:
7. Temporary imports
You can usually use a vehicle with non-UK number plates without needing to tax or register it in the UK if all of the following apply:
you’re visiting and don’t plan to live here
you only use the vehicle up to 6 months in a 12-month period (one single visit, or several shorter visits adding up to a 6-month period)
the vehicle is registered and taxed in its home country
You must tax and register your vehicle in the UK within 14 days if you become a resident or your stay is longer than 6 months.
If you are a UK resident, your vehicle must be UK registered...
That seems rather silly:Thats not how I read this:
7. Temporary imports
You can usually use a vehicle with non-UK number plates without needing to tax or register it in the UK if all of the following apply:
you’re visiting and don’t plan to live here
you only use the vehicle up to 6 months in a 12-month period (one single visit, or several shorter visits adding up to a 6-month period)
the vehicle is registered and taxed in its home country
You must tax and register your vehicle in the UK within 14 days if you become a resident or your stay is longer than 6 months.
If you are a UK resident, your vehicle must be UK registered...
I live here in the UK, mortgage, family etc.
I work in Holland (at the moment), month on, month off.
If I decide to buy a property & car in Holland, but my UK car breaks down, I'd ferry my other one here for the month I'm off, then drive it back.
It'd be ridiculously time consuming/prohibitively expensive to register, tax, deregister, re-register, tax etc etc!
What if I just decide to use one car constantly?
This whole EU thing is meant to make cross border living/working/holidaying much easier and instead seems some things are still covered in excessive red tape!
Provided your car was dutch insured, dutch taxed and dutch registered, I can't see an issue, but I don't make the rules.
With the difference between owning & driving thing... could you drive a vehicle you don't own, then do the paperwork? so transfer ownership to a 3rd party, drive to the UK then do the registering?
JB! said:
Really?
Thats not how I read this:
7. Temporary imports
You can usually use a vehicle with non-UK number plates without needing to tax or register it in the UK if all of the following apply:
you’re visiting and don’t plan to live here
you only use the vehicle up to 6 months in a 12-month period (one single visit, or several shorter visits adding up to a 6-month period)
the vehicle is registered and taxed in its home country
You must tax and register your vehicle in the UK within 14 days if you become a resident or your stay is longer than 6 months.
If you are a UK resident, your vehicle must be UK registered...
The main problem is the assumption that the non UK reg car you are driving belongs to you and not someone else. It is solely designed to prevent the VED dodge but leaves very grey areas. Thats not how I read this:
7. Temporary imports
You can usually use a vehicle with non-UK number plates without needing to tax or register it in the UK if all of the following apply:
you’re visiting and don’t plan to live here
you only use the vehicle up to 6 months in a 12-month period (one single visit, or several shorter visits adding up to a 6-month period)
the vehicle is registered and taxed in its home country
You must tax and register your vehicle in the UK within 14 days if you become a resident or your stay is longer than 6 months.
If you are a UK resident, your vehicle must be UK registered...
My car can be driven by anyone over 25 who has held a licence for more than 3 years as long as permission is given.
littleredrooster said:
Yup - you can speculate all you want, but TVP said "In a statement, police said: "Officers pulled over a Ferrari 458... at 09:15 GMT, after receiving reports that a car had been driving quickly up the motorway.
"It transpires the driver had no licence, so the car was seized and he was dropped off at the nearest point of safety.
"He was reported for driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence.""
No mention of being reported for no insurance.
quite a big sticker on the windscreen saying no insurance - which might be the cause of some confusion - perhaps that was the only sticker they had "It transpires the driver had no licence, so the car was seized and he was dropped off at the nearest point of safety.
"He was reported for driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence.""
No mention of being reported for no insurance.
TooMany2cvs said:
allergictocheese said:
TooMany2cvs said:
But it is illegal for a UK resident to drive a foreign-plated car.
Perhaps you'd like to link to the relevant legislation?But I believe it comes under Chapter 3 of the 1968 Vienna Convention on Road Traffic. That gives agreements for temporary importation, which don't extend to residents using foreign-registered vehicles. It's probably wrapped in various bits of C&U and RTA, too.
SkinnyPete said:
So which cretin grassed up the Ferrari for making good progress?
I guess this is going to be a growing problem with all the SPEED KILLS propaganda , mind you we do not know in what manner he was making progress , he may have been driving like an asswipe for all we know Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff