Dashcam footage and dangerous driving

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MrChips said:

I'm hoping it was a wayward missile strike that ended up nuking Bracknell.

Oh god, if only!

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Driver101 said:

You're worried about incriminating him now? You seemed to want people's backing so you could report it. You made the effort to capture the footage in the first place.

I doubt the police are going to scroll through youtube to find videos of cars making unsafe exits from a motorway.

You've only had a handful of opinions.

I think the fact you've basically called me a liar, I think it's only fair you put the video back up to show my opinion of your driving was wrong, or correct as the case is.

I don't know how I called you a liar but you can now view the video if you want. I have only had the car and the dashcam a couple of months so wanted to test the waters as to whether people would report dangerous driving.

I exited the A3 in the normal fashion, aimed for the outside lane to turn right at the roundabout, got caught out by a mazda mpv turning right from the left hand lane, merged in behind said mpv on the roundabout.

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Blaster72 said:

Still can't see the video mate, I'm more interested in the quality of the dashcam footage rather than the incident though.

Do you have any more you're happy to post up?

sorry, got my settings mixed up, should be fixed now. This is a random blast the first night I had my cam, it is an E-Prance 0801 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4e-QlLv3RA

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silverfoxcc said:

It is an endorsable offence to enter/cross a hatched area bordered by solid white lines

So he is a knob and bang to rights if plod was there

And IMO really bloody dangerous. When wet the lines are slippery and plenty of crap gathers on there which could blow a tyre. If he had lost control going over that section he could well have taken out the Range Rover.

I had seen him driving like a muppet previously and let it go, the red mist descended when he performed that manoeuvre, and yes I did speed up to get his numberplate once I saw the RR change lanes.

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mrtwisty said:

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...the red mist descended when he performed that manoeuvre, and yes I did speed up...

...and thats where you crossed the line I'm afraid. Not as bad as the twunt in the bcgt, but a little pot/kettle unfortunately.

Crossed what line? What I did was in no way dangerous was it?

Edited by R8VXF on Tuesday 3rd March 10:27

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mrtwisty said:

Not dangerous no, but allowing someone else's actions on the road to bring on 'red mist' isn't a good sign.

Oh and I'm not keen on living in a society where every infringement is recorded and reported. I've made silly mistakes in the past, I'm sure you have as well.

I see what you are saying, but there are silly mistakes and then there is ish driving like this.

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herewego said:

Sounds like it wasn't a momentary lapse but regular aggressive driving.

That was my thinking. If he had been going into Cobham from the roundabout he would have then had to cut up someone on the exit of the roundabout, but as I didn't see this I cannot make that call.

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LoonR1 said:

When had you "seen him driving like a muppet previously"? If it was on this journey then that makes the whole thing quite likely to be similar to what I posted earlier.

A bit further back chopping and changing lanes. At one point he had been directly behind me then as I indicated into lane 1 he accelerated past me and then performed the manoeuvre in the footage.

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LoonR1 said:

R8VXF said:

A bit further back chopping and changing lanes. At one point he had been directly behind me then as I indicated into lane 1 he accelerated past me and then performed the manoeuvre in the footage.

And yet there you are in front of him again despite his erratic "chopping and changing lanes". I posted a scenario earlier. I stand by that. I think you tried to teach him a lesson and are now just angry that his driving got him ahead of you and you're being petty about it. I'll gyarantee both of you were drivig in a daft manner but you've happily edited it just to show the 20 seconds or so of his final piece of poor driving.

If this isn't the case explain to me how someone doing what he did in front of you has ended up behind you again.

At no point before this piece of footage was I behind him. Not sure where you got that from.

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Meh, if that is what you two would like to think then fair enough. You are wrong though.

Yes, my driving is not beyond reproach, but I still contend the fact that nothing I did was dangerous whereas the bcgt driver was definitely driving dangerously. At least we can agree on that, Shirley?

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LoonR1 said:

Never said he wasn't. You've admitted to an undertake earlier, which whilst technically not illegal is still a move that's likely to pique plod's interest too. Chasing after the Bentley is also a no no.

Fair point, well made, and quite civilly put. Now why can't you continue in this manner, rather than making wild assumptions and not being civil?

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fulgurex said:

Forgive me if I've missed something in the intervening posts but from what I can see the OP is an aggressive driver who needs to " back off. " in situations such as these.

Sure the Bentley driver is a bit of a pain with his last minute lane change to exit BUT the OP needs to improve his own driving before contemplating using his own dashcam footage to report someone else.

Yes, I have admitted my driving was not fully on point, but crossing chevrons is an automatic 3 point endorsement.

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phib said:

Have to say having watched the video ( but not read the whole thread) having a dash cam and worrying about someone else's driving and going to the trouble of posting it on the internet does strike me as you becoming one of them. Please don't tell me you have a hi vis on the back of your chair ?

I am not having a go at the OP but seriously I don't get why driver or cyclists post footage of this stuff ( fair enough if there is an accident or someone's hurt)

But surely people have better things to do with their time / life ?

The same however could be said about me replying to this post however !!

Phib

Ps it wasn't my Bentley !!!

This was why I started this thread, to find out whether people would report it or not.

I do have a high vis in the back of my beemer but only because I haven't bothered to remove after going over to France

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Stefluc said:

I have looked at the footage and can say it is not Dangerous Driving by the definition. The RR brakes slightly would say it was due to thinking WTF , he is guilty of driving over solid white lines.
I have a dashcam and see this type driving daily, I am also a traffic cop of 25yrs and I wouldn't put it on an Internet site. Or contact the police I would however do what I always do when at work and see this type of behaviour deal with it as I feel fit.
Evidentially you can not make out from the footage if it was bad or not due to your position and the vehicle ahead obscuring your view also don't know if it was me or not but couldn't make out the reg no, but I will stand to be corrected.
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Fair enough. You can see the reg on my footage at home that is at 1080p, youtube downgraded it to 360p for some reason. He is actually guilty of crossing chevrons, not white lines if I have read things right. Granted it is not Dangerous Driving in law, but in practice it is.

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vonhosen said:

It is a bit perplexing how many people here constantly complain about driving standards in this country & that little is being done about it, yet many here also then say driving like that should be ignored.

Yep, confuses me too. I wonder what the line is for these people to report something to the police?

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gaz1234 said:

Vid works. Thought you had a Vauxhall Monaro? That looked like a city car?
Bentley in the wrong, missed junction nearly, cut up rrs. You then wanted to catch him up to show plate.
Move on, unprotected vid and overwrite it.

Got a VXR8 GTS

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Mopar440 said:

R8VXF said:

You can see the reg on my footage at home that is at 1080p, youtube downgraded it to 360p for some reason.

Looks pretty good at full HD 1080. You do realise how YouTube works and offers a selection of resolutions from 360 up to full HD? (If you uploaded it at full HD, as you did.)

I did try selecting 1080p last night but it wasn't an option. Must be some youtube fkwittery in the back end processing.

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SK425 said:

R8VXF said:

Yep, confuses me too. I wonder what the line is for these people to report something to the police?

Personally, I would be at least partly guided by how much of my time I could afford to spend reporting bad driving to the police. If I were to report everyone I see change lanes in a manner that causes someone to have to brake to cope with it, I'd have half a dozen reports to make every day just from my drive to work, and another half a dozen from the drive home. I'm afraid I just can't afford the time to gather the information to report that many cases every day (and I suspect the police might get a little tired of me if I did ). Granted, most of those cases I see do not also involve contravening a road marking like in your video, but personally I don't see that as particularly relevant - it's not as if forcing someone to brake as a result of an ordinary lane change is any more acceptable.

Agreed on the time/benefit ratio, but have to disagree about the severity of this manoeuvre vs general lane muppetry. Will try and explain in a bit, dinner is calling

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Driver101 said:

As they always say, there is two sides to every story. The OP admitted he had seen red mist, and what we've seen on that video doesn't show enough to justify that.

Crossing hatchings on an exit is enough to justify red mist for me. As I said, his previous muppetry didn't bother me. The 3 minutes prior to the incident (including my undertake and some muppet on the roundabout fwiw) http://youtu.be/879BkCt-4dc. BTW, I love how stressed my wife gets about st driving

(might take a minute or two for yt to process)

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Cudd Wudd said:

When I first read the thread but before seeing the video I was expecting something a lot worse (granted it was a poor manoeuvre). But once having viewed it I couldn't help but wonder whether you would have had the same reaction in terms of posting if it hadnt been a Bentley, and was say an 'ordinary' car.

Having now just watched the build up video, I can only imagine how your wife reacted to seeing the Bentley's manoeuvre. She must have gone apocalyptic based on her reaction to the Mercedes driver who annoyed her for indicating too long. And for then driving up the slip road without doing anything obviously wrong given the right lane was disappearing.

Your replies on here are reasonable and well balanced,but it seems that whilst in the car you didn't want anything getting in front of you and slowing you down and had you/your wife not been in that mindset I'd guess this thread would never have started.

If the MB driver had either stayed in the right hand lane all the way up or stayed in the left lane after cutting across whatever car was in the left lane then I probably wouldn't have got so annoyed with him. People who lane block do piss me off.

To be fair, I think it all started with the first car on the M25 being a cock. He had been slowing down to 65 then speeding up then slowing down etc and I admit that I probably shouldn't have undertaken him but just wanted the driver behind me where he could cause me anymore issues. I think that was about the third time he had passed a large space in lane 3 and not pulled left.