How long can a bus park in a bus stop
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Is there any restriction on buses stopping/parking in a bus stop. There is a designated bus stop in our area where the stop protrudes into the flow of traffic. A private bus company has an annoying habit of parking up and waits for all the kids to meet the bus. The impact being the entire main road is blocked causing long tail backs. You can get caught for 10 mins waiting.
If it has a road marking (dashed yellow line around the stop, the words 'bus stop' and a thick yellow line along the kerb) then local bus services can use it: to pick up passengers; for up to two minutes to get back to timetable; or to change drivers.
Private vehicles wating to pick up children from school could get a ticket, whether they be a bus or a car.
Private vehicles wating to pick up children from school could get a ticket, whether they be a bus or a car.
It depends on what the OP means by private bus company. All regular services in London, where the OP is from according to his profile. are contracted out by TfL to private companies. Quite a few bus routes in the capital are specific schools only ones using the usual big red vehicles and displaying route numbers like any other service - http://www.londonbusroutes.net/routes.htm#school
If it's a service organised directly by a school with a coach operator then a contravention is being committed. If it's that big an issue complain to TfL and/or the relevant Traffic Commissioners who oversee the operator's PSV licence/London Service Permit.
If it's a service organised directly by a school with a coach operator then a contravention is being committed. If it's that big an issue complain to TfL and/or the relevant Traffic Commissioners who oversee the operator's PSV licence/London Service Permit.
Basic said:
If it has a road marking (dashed yellow line around the stop, the words 'bus stop' and a thick yellow line along the kerb) then local bus services can use it: to pick up passengers; for up to two minutes to get back to timetable; or to change drivers.
Private vehicles wating to pick up children from school could get a ticket, whether they be a bus or a car.
I'm not doubting you but do you have an example of where it states that in the law?Private vehicles wating to pick up children from school could get a ticket, whether they be a bus or a car.
I work for a bus firm and we sometimes have timetables that stipulate that we stay at a stop for much longer than 2 minutes.
The Turbonator said:
Basic said:
If it has a road marking (dashed yellow line around the stop, the words 'bus stop' and a thick yellow line along the kerb) then local bus services can use it: to pick up passengers; for up to two minutes to get back to timetable; or to change drivers.
Private vehicles wating to pick up children from school could get a ticket, whether they be a bus or a car.
I'm not doubting you but do you have an example of where it states that in the law?Private vehicles wating to pick up children from school could get a ticket, whether they be a bus or a car.
I work for a bus firm and we sometimes have timetables that stipulate that we stay at a stop for much longer than 2 minutes.
I'd be surprised if anyone issued a ticket to a bus service though.
Edited to add that I just checked the 2015 regs and it's in table 26.
Edited by Basic on Friday 6th March 22:32
Burwood said:
Is there any restriction on buses stopping/parking in a bus stop. There is a designated bus stop in our area where the stop protrudes into the flow of traffic. A private bus company has an annoying habit of parking up and waits for all the kids to meet the bus. The impact being the entire main road is blocked causing long tail backs. You can get caught for 10 mins waiting.
So much for buses reducing congestion and pollution. No wait.. It's just another way of punishing the private motorist for daring to have their own choices. Can't you call the police as it's clearly obstructing the highway?Basic said:
It's in the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions. I don't have access to a copy at the moment (am using my phone and it's a bit of a faff to look it up!) so can't be any more exact than that I'm at the moment I'm afraid.
I'd be surprised if anyone issued a ticket to a bus service though.
Edited to add that I just checked the 2015 regs and it's in table 26.
Thanks for that.I'd be surprised if anyone issued a ticket to a bus service though.
Edited to add that I just checked the 2015 regs and it's in table 26.
Edited by Basic on Friday 6th March 22:32
Red Devil said:
It depends on what the OP means by private bus company. All regular services in London, where the OP is from according to his profile. are contracted out by TfL to private companies. Quite a few bus routes in the capital are specific schools only ones using the usual big red vehicles and displaying route numbers like any other service - http://www.londonbusroutes.net/routes.htm#school
If it's a service organised directly by a school with a coach operator then a contravention is being committed. If it's that big an issue complain to TfL and/or the relevant Traffic Commissioners who oversee the operator's PSV licence/London Service Permit.
it's a Gastonia Coaches Cranleigh. Definately a school designated private bus. I will be calling the bus company too-cheersIf it's a service organised directly by a school with a coach operator then a contravention is being committed. If it's that big an issue complain to TfL and/or the relevant Traffic Commissioners who oversee the operator's PSV licence/London Service Permit.
HertsBiker said:
So much for buses reducing congestion and pollution. No wait.. It's just another way of punishing the private motorist for daring to have their own choices. Can't you call the police as it's clearly obstructing the highway?
Hell yeah - cos obviously 50 odd parents in cars turning up to collect their kids from school would be massively better TooLateForAName said:
HertsBiker said:
So much for buses reducing congestion and pollution. No wait.. It's just another way of punishing the private motorist for daring to have their own choices. Can't you call the police as it's clearly obstructing the highway?
Hell yeah - cos obviously 50 odd parents in cars turning up to collect their kids from school would be massively better I understood that bus STOPS were for buses to pull in only for the purpose of dropping off / picking up passengers for a short, limited time. In our area, we have bus STANDS where buses are allowed to wait (e.g. at termini). Coaches are specifically NOT allowed to use bus stops or stands in our area and are also not allowed to use bus lanes.
Burwood said:
It's a Gastonia Coaches Cranleigh. Definately a school designated private bus. I will be calling the bus company too-cheers
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