'Justice for Henry Hicks'

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Andehh

7,107 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Greendubber said:
La Liga said:
anonymous said:
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I expect you're correct and it'll be similar to the family of Mark Duggan / Menezes (the latter one can certainly sympathise with), where the families will keep ploughing along fruitless legal routes.
Whilst all the time the bobbies involved get put through the mill over and over again....
Couldn't agree more, always frustrating the waste of time and monies when the evidence makes it obvious!

Jasandjules

69,825 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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I am not a big fan, to say the least, of nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

But that being said, I've been pulled many times by the police (with blues and twos) and never once have I thought - I'll outrun them.......

I can't help but think there is no legitimate reason to attempt to run from a police car with the blue lights on....

Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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anonymous said:
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All of this whilst on his way home from winning a truth telling competition?

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2016
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Greendubber said:
La Liga said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
I expect you're correct and it'll be similar to the family of Mark Duggan / Menezes (the latter one can certainly sympathise with), where the families will keep ploughing along fruitless legal routes.
Whilst all the time the bobbies involved get put through the mill over and over again....


Oh, I think they give as good (if that's the right word) as they get.

Foliage

3,861 posts

121 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Greendubber said:
Whilst all the time the bobbies involved get put through the mill over and over again....
Accountability should be part of the job, an every day occurrence due the nature of the work. But that accountability shouldn't be driven by the family but the IPCC once they reach a verdict that should be the end of it.

Mr Snrub

24,942 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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RIP HUN URE SLEEPING WITH THE ANGLES NOW X X X X X X X X

Andehh

7,107 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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laugh

baldy1926

2,136 posts

199 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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I believe that several of his good Samaritan friends also fell off mopeds after they had seen police cars

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Unauthorised pursuit, as it turns out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-366488...

Bigends

5,412 posts

127 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Did the officers involved know he had the class B and phones on him prior to the pursuit? Or were they just stopping him on spec

Edited by Bigends on Tuesday 28th June 17:34

Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Bigends said:
Did the officers involved know he had the class B and phones on him prior to the pursuit? Or were they just stopping him on spec

Edited by Bigends on Tuesday 28th June 17:34
I'd imagine based on the amount of stop and search he was on the radar and being looked at.

Bigends

5,412 posts

127 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Greendubber said:
I'd imagine based on the amount of stop and search he was on the radar and being looked at.
As you'll know. Previous history isn't sufficient grounds on its own for stop and search. Without some supporting information it's unlikely the pursuit would have been authorised.

CoolHands

18,496 posts

194 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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If it was an unauthorised pursuit that is a good example why the villains are laughing at the rest of society. Toerag splatted himself trying to run and the cops will be blamed, why, because someone in an office didn't give the go-ahead?

We're too soft.

Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Bigends said:
Greendubber said:
I'd imagine based on the amount of stop and search he was on the radar and being looked at.
As you'll know. Previous history isn't sufficient grounds on its own for stop and search. Without some supporting information it's unlikely the pursuit would have been authorised.
I do know that, and you dont know what the reason for pursuit was.

My point was they could have been watching him and may have witnessed a deal hence the request to stop. I know when we do it we have to tell the control room inspector why. "Reason for pursuit is that I have just seen the rider/driver carry out what I suspect to be a drug deal"

I've heard authority given for vehicles purely making off that have a drugs marker, its not often they get refused.

It would be interesting to know how long it ran.

Edited by Greendubber on Tuesday 28th June 18:49

Bigends

5,412 posts

127 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Greendubber said:
I do know that, and you dont know what the reason for pursuit was.

My point was they could have been watching him and may have witnessed a deal hence the request to stop. I know when we do it we have to tell the control room inspector why. "Reason for pursuit is that I have just seen the rider/driver carry out what I suspect to be a drug deal"

I've heard authority given for vehicles purely making off that have a drugs marker, its not often they get refused.

It would be interesting to know how long it ran.

Edited by Greendubber on Tuesday 28th June 18:49
I'd imagined they'd seen him dealing them the pursuit may well have been initially authorised. Be interesting when the misconduct hearings underway to see what the reason wsd

Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Bigends said:
Greendubber said:
I do know that, and you dont know what the reason for pursuit was.

My point was they could have been watching him and may have witnessed a deal hence the request to stop. I know when we do it we have to tell the control room inspector why. "Reason for pursuit is that I have just seen the rider/driver carry out what I suspect to be a drug deal"

I've heard authority given for vehicles purely making off that have a drugs marker, its not often they get refused.

It would be interesting to know how long it ran.

Edited by Greendubber on Tuesday 28th June 18:49
I'd imagined they'd seen him dealing them the pursuit may well have been initially authorised. Be interesting when the misconduct hearings underway to see what the reason wsd
It'll be interesting to hear if they shouted it up at all.

desamax

33 posts

97 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Some people on here need to take a long hard look at themselves. Can't believe some of the comments.
Now i for one hope the lying corrupt covering up, Islington police officers get all that's coming to them. They had rules to follow, but clearly took it on themselves to push this young lad to his death. I know they never expected the young lad to die, however their actions and lack of following procudure clearly contributed to his death. Just like the South Yorkshire police tried to cover up 96 deaths. And now in London it's still happining today. The boy come from a good home, never had a criminal record, and was always polite , the Poilce admitted that! A mother father and sisters and brother a grieving, all because for police officers chose not to follow police rules. That are made to protect the public.
Shame on you , who posted dierogotry remarks. And I hope something like this, never happens you any of you or your family.


Greendubber

13,129 posts

202 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Ahh a Hillsborough comparison, do please bore off it was 27 years ago. So what if he was from a good home, cant possibly have ever done anything wrong because of that could he?

For someone who doesnt like allegations you're not half throwing a lot around yourself.

As for your mention of rules, what about the rules about carrying weed and not stopping when told to do so by the police? They didnt push him to his death at all, he decided to make a run for it.

Edited by Greendubber on Tuesday 28th June 19:33

baldy1926

2,136 posts

199 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Due to the amount of theft from and of mopeds and all the other crime that is committed by the riders. All of which are out on errands collecting shopping etc for the community, the police are told to stop as many mopeds as possible.
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desamax

33 posts

97 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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les, what about the rules about carrying weed and not stopping when told to do so by the police? They didnt push him to his death at all, he decided to make a run for it.
Haha ha The police officers stressed over and over they did not signal him to stop. They wanted to have fun.
That backfired and now they will lose everything.