Euro Carpark £100 parking charge -any experiences?
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I definitely would not!
A. you will prove to them they have a 'live' one, and the letters from them will multiply.
B. The invoice is speculative at best and they are famous for doing this
C. if what you say about events is true I would suggest you have nothing to fear. They have to prove their case, even if they get you to court which is highly unlikely.
D. They are looking for those that roll over easily.
E. Keep your powder dry and your cards close to your chest until you really need them, much later down the line if at all.
I know others will disagree, but....
A. you will prove to them they have a 'live' one, and the letters from them will multiply.
B. The invoice is speculative at best and they are famous for doing this
C. if what you say about events is true I would suggest you have nothing to fear. They have to prove their case, even if they get you to court which is highly unlikely.
D. They are looking for those that roll over easily.
E. Keep your powder dry and your cards close to your chest until you really need them, much later down the line if at all.
I know others will disagree, but....
HoraHora
do the following
1) DO NOT contact ECP until you have done the rest
1a) register on pepipoo.com
2) post this in the Private parking ticket section,do a copy of the 'invoice' for it is only that and leave no identifiying marks on it, eg name car etc
3) listen to the advice given by EDW, hcanderson,Schoolrunmum and those with postings in the 1000's
4) they will possibly advise you to
a) send what they call a soft reply and claim a POPLA code from ECP
b) when you get that you hit the with a 'NOT a genuine pre estimate of loss' defence.POPLA 99.9% of the time agrees and job is jobbed The bonus is while the PPC has to agree with POPLA IF it goes against you, you dont and can still refuse to pay. The chances of them doing court is slight and also ignore any blustering about 'debt collectors' and solicitors letters.
All this can be found on pepipoo.
OR you can pay the 100.00
personally, i would give these a run for their money, it costs them 27.00 to go to POPLA, so they are on a loser straight away. as only the unsure and the uninformed pay them the 100.00. If everyone went the POPLA route it might get them to act in a more appropriate manner
Also be wary of what you write, NEVER say you were the driver, its always the driver did this, the driver never saw that etc as some of them read pepipoo and take notes!!!
Best of luck, Just look at pepipoo and choose, its your choice
do the following
1) DO NOT contact ECP until you have done the rest
1a) register on pepipoo.com
2) post this in the Private parking ticket section,do a copy of the 'invoice' for it is only that and leave no identifiying marks on it, eg name car etc
3) listen to the advice given by EDW, hcanderson,Schoolrunmum and those with postings in the 1000's
4) they will possibly advise you to
a) send what they call a soft reply and claim a POPLA code from ECP
b) when you get that you hit the with a 'NOT a genuine pre estimate of loss' defence.POPLA 99.9% of the time agrees and job is jobbed The bonus is while the PPC has to agree with POPLA IF it goes against you, you dont and can still refuse to pay. The chances of them doing court is slight and also ignore any blustering about 'debt collectors' and solicitors letters.
All this can be found on pepipoo.
OR you can pay the 100.00
personally, i would give these a run for their money, it costs them 27.00 to go to POPLA, so they are on a loser straight away. as only the unsure and the uninformed pay them the 100.00. If everyone went the POPLA route it might get them to act in a more appropriate manner
Also be wary of what you write, NEVER say you were the driver, its always the driver did this, the driver never saw that etc as some of them read pepipoo and take notes!!!
Best of luck, Just look at pepipoo and choose, its your choice
Edited by silverfoxcc on Wednesday 11th March 16:23
hora said:
One week on- received nothing in todays post. How long do they normally take to reply?
Last one i got (i think it was ECP) - i did the soft appeal with some copy & paste text.3 weeks passed and then i got a letter saying they've dropped it. I assume because they took too apply adn reply to me with a POPLA ref.
hora said:
It was a public private pay and display carpark. Paid and left within the allotted time.
hora said:
Ok found out they have a camera covering the exit.
So you pay upto say 5.30pm. Get back to your car at 5.29pm, throw bags in the boot, walk round ease in, seatbelt. Start- mirrors, pull slowly out of space, round cars and pass through that camera at the exit at circa 5.33pm. Hey presto you've overstayed.
Most anpr car parks have a leeway period which varies but still 'catches out' pishtakers So you pay upto say 5.30pm. Get back to your car at 5.29pm, throw bags in the boot, walk round ease in, seatbelt. Start- mirrors, pull slowly out of space, round cars and pass through that camera at the exit at circa 5.33pm. Hey presto you've overstayed.
hora said:
When you finished doing that look here - http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/search.php?sea...Click on Forum Search and enter the name of the PPC to find others with similar experiences.
Then go here to find out the right way to go about dealing with your problem.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php...
The Beavis CoA judgement is due at some point after 14th April.
Hopefully it will provide some clarity going forward.
I had this in a Morrisons car park last year, a friend had similar at Luton Airport.
After looking on the net for similar cases, we both ignored the original invoice (It's not a fine as someone else mentioned) The letters came, the amount went up....then down ! then stopped.
From memory two things stick on my mind but please check;
1) If they did decided to take legal action they can only try and claim the parking charge...i.e. a couple of quid.
2) In the history of ECP they have never taken anyone to court !
As an aside I regularly drive by a large house in a nice part of London near Regents Park, on the driveway are usually a couple of G Whizz cars all painted up with an ECP logo, and an old Silver Spirit with an ECP number plate, might even be ECP 1, or ECP 10 or similar.
Anyway, not sure who lives there.....but a useful place to forward your unwanted ECP post & letters.
After looking on the net for similar cases, we both ignored the original invoice (It's not a fine as someone else mentioned) The letters came, the amount went up....then down ! then stopped.
From memory two things stick on my mind but please check;
1) If they did decided to take legal action they can only try and claim the parking charge...i.e. a couple of quid.
2) In the history of ECP they have never taken anyone to court !
As an aside I regularly drive by a large house in a nice part of London near Regents Park, on the driveway are usually a couple of G Whizz cars all painted up with an ECP logo, and an old Silver Spirit with an ECP number plate, might even be ECP 1, or ECP 10 or similar.
Anyway, not sure who lives there.....but a useful place to forward your unwanted ECP post & letters.
rswift said:
I had this in a Morrisons car park last year, a friend had similar at Luton Airport.
From memory two things stick on my mind but please check;
1) If they did decided to take legal action they can only try and claim the parking charge...i.e. a couple of quid.
2) In the history of ECP they have never taken anyone to court !
.
I don't know where you get your information from but I believe you are quite wrong on both counts. Google the incidence of court cases involving ECP and you'll find quite a few. As to the amount of the allowable claim: they can try and claim whatever they estimate their loss to be.From memory two things stick on my mind but please check;
1) If they did decided to take legal action they can only try and claim the parking charge...i.e. a couple of quid.
2) In the history of ECP they have never taken anyone to court !
.
There are good defences to avoid having to pay these punitive charges however misleading posts such as the above help no one.
fulgurex said:
rswift said:
I had this in a Morrisons car park last year, a friend had similar at Luton Airport.
From memory two things stick on my mind but please check;
1) If they did decided to take legal action they can only try and claim the parking charge...i.e. a couple of quid.
2) In the history of ECP they have never taken anyone to court !
.
I don't know where you get your information from but I believe you are quite wrong on both counts. Google the incidence of court cases involving ECP and you'll find quite a few. As to the amount of the allowable claim: they can try and claim whatever they estimate their loss to be.From memory two things stick on my mind but please check;
1) If they did decided to take legal action they can only try and claim the parking charge...i.e. a couple of quid.
2) In the history of ECP they have never taken anyone to court !
.
There are good defences to avoid having to pay these punitive charges however misleading posts such as the above help no one.
I think the more detailed information was via a website called "Ticketfighter" no longer in existence, but in the past has helped me fight several illegally issued tickets.
Lastly "From memory two things stick on my mind but please check", not sure which part of this sentence is unclear. The post wasn't intentionally misleading, and your abrupt reply doesn't really help matters does it ?
"Their loss, being parking revenue, the court action ?, no I've just looked. Not much evidence of more than one failed case against ECP
I won't waste any more of mine, or your time by reply to a response as it doesn't really help the original poster.
Thank's for your input etc ...
rswift said:
Thank you, just to clarify I got my information from my personal experience of receiving, and not paying an invoice from ECP.
I think the more detailed information was via a website called "Ticketfighter" no longer in existence, but in the past has helped me fight several illegally issued tickets.
Lastly "From memory two things stick on my mind but please check", not sure which part of this sentence is unclear. The post wasn't intentionally misleading, and your abrupt reply doesn't really help matters does it ?
"Their loss, being parking revenue, the court action ?, no I've just looked. Not much evidence of more than one failed case against ECP
I won't waste any more of mine, or your time by reply to a response as it doesn't really help the original poster.
Thank's for your input etc ...
And your post with your fictional memories helped the OP exactly how?I think the more detailed information was via a website called "Ticketfighter" no longer in existence, but in the past has helped me fight several illegally issued tickets.
Lastly "From memory two things stick on my mind but please check", not sure which part of this sentence is unclear. The post wasn't intentionally misleading, and your abrupt reply doesn't really help matters does it ?
"Their loss, being parking revenue, the court action ?, no I've just looked. Not much evidence of more than one failed case against ECP
I won't waste any more of mine, or your time by reply to a response as it doesn't really help the original poster.
Thank's for your input etc ...
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