'Still registered as a 1.4' - Justice at last !!

'Still registered as a 1.4' - Justice at last !!

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Petrolhead95

7,043 posts

153 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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22Rgt said:
What really is the point in going to all the trouble fitting a 2litre engine in a stty 1.2 corsa....just go out and buy a 2 litre car...job done..
Maybe you should actually read the article before making a response. It also actually isn't that much trouble to fit a Z20LET into a Corsa C and once you have, it's hilarious to watch idiots like you that laugh at a 'stty Corsa' which can run rings around a lot of bigger engined cars with ease.

Also, it's cheaper in the end to do an engine conversion than buy a larger engined car due to insurance restrictions.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Petrolhead95 said:
Maybe you should actually read the article before making a response. It also actually isn't that much trouble to fit a Z20LET into a Corsa C and once you have, it's hilarious to watch idiots like you that laugh at a 'stty Corsa' which can run rings around a lot of bigger engined cars with ease.

Also, it's cheaper in the end to do an engine conversion than buy a larger engined car due to insurance restrictions.
That last sentence is bks unless you're an example of the type of scrote who deliberately fails to disclose their modifications.

I can't think of a single scenario where a car with a transplanted higher power engine would be cheaper than a car that was produced with a bigger engine.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

120 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Which is probably why it is best that you steer clear of commenting on legal matters.
To be fair Loon usually knows his stuff when it comes to insurance.

Petrolhead95

7,043 posts

153 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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LoonR1 said:
That last sentence is bks unless you're an example of the type of scrote who deliberately fails to disclose their modifications.

I can't think of a single scenario where a car with a transplanted higher power engine would be cheaper than a car that was produced with a bigger engine.
Well, it isn't bks. For instance; BMW E46 330D was £11,000 a year to insure for me. A Z20LET Corsa with all mods declared including uprated suspension, brakes etc was £7,000 a year to insure.

Edit - insurance makes no sense. It costs the same to insure a Fiesta ST as a 1.2 Corsa. Go figure.

Edited by Petrolhead95 on Friday 20th March 18:10

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

120 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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_rubinho_ said:
Just spotted this evening here...

It's an A45 AMG until you read the listing and it says:
eBay listing said:
This car has had a full a45 conversion, on log book it shows a180, cheaper on insurance,
Reported to eBay; why do they think they can get away with it?

madmadmad
I'd be surprised if fleabay do any more than send you a letter full of meaningless platitudes.

shep1001

4,599 posts

188 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Petrolhead95 said:
Well, it isn't bks. For instance; BMW E46 330D was £11,000 a year to insure for me. A Z20LET Corsa with all mods declared including uprated suspension, brakes etc was £7,000 a year to insure.

Edit - insurance makes no sense. It costs the same to insure a Fiesta ST as a 1.2 Corsa. Go figure.

Edited by Petrolhead95 on Friday 20th March 18:10
£7000/year that would be worth more than the car, it might be cheaper but how the juddering fk does that represent good value? Personally if I was 17 again I would run a st box round for a few years, add the extra few£k I would have spunked on insurance into an ISA and purchased a nice car when I had some NCD and the intelligence and respect to drive a high power car properly without sticking into a tree or wiping it up the armco on the motorway.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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Petrolhead95 said:
LoonR1 said:
That last sentence is bks unless you're an example of the type of scrote who deliberately fails to disclose their modifications.

I can't think of a single scenario where a car with a transplanted higher power engine would be cheaper than a car that was produced with a bigger engine.
Well, it isn't bks. For instance; BMW E46 330D was £11,000 a year to insure for me. A Z20LET Corsa with all mods declared including uprated suspension, brakes etc was £7,000 a year to insure.

Edit - insurance makes no sense. It costs the same to insure a Fiesta ST as a 1.2 Corsa. Go figure.

Edited by Petrolhead95 on Friday 20th March 18:10
Insurance makes a lot of sense, but you'd rather pretend it doesn't.

What does a standard Corsa with a big engine cost? I bet it's not as much, although you sound like a kid weaned on Max Power.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

120 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Petrolhead95 said:
LoonR1 said:
That last sentence is bks unless you're an example of the type of scrote who deliberately fails to disclose their modifications.

I can't think of a single scenario where a car with a transplanted higher power engine would be cheaper than a car that was produced with a bigger engine.
Well, it isn't bks. For instance; BMW E46 330D was £11,000 a year to insure for me. A Z20LET Corsa with all mods declared including uprated suspension, brakes etc was £7,000 a year to insure.

Edit - insurance makes no sense. It costs the same to insure a Fiesta ST as a 1.2 Corsa. Go figure.

Edited by Petrolhead95 on Friday 20th March 18:10
Insurance makes a lot of sense, but you'd rather pretend it doesn't.

What does a standard Corsa with a big engine cost? I bet it's not as much, although you sound like a kid weaned on Max Power.
I'm just glad I passed my test back in 1989 - my first car was an 1.9 Opel Manta, it cost me as much to insure as it did to buy, - around £750 - in today's money that would be around £1500. I'm so glad I'm not 18 going on 19 again when it comes to insurance.....on other matters it would be great to be 18 going on 19 again..... hehe

4rephill

5,040 posts

177 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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Petrolhead95 said:
LoonR1 said:
That last sentence is bks unless you're an example of the type of scrote who deliberately fails to disclose their modifications.

I can't think of a single scenario where a car with a transplanted higher power engine would be cheaper than a car that was produced with a bigger engine.
Well, it isn't bks. For instance; BMW E46 330D was £11,000 a year to insure for me. A Z20LET Corsa with all mods declared including uprated suspension, brakes etc was £7,000 a year to insure.
How does this support your argument? - They're not the same make and model!

One's an expensive German car that costs a lot of money to repair if it goes wrong or gets damaged due to expensive parts prices, and the other one is a motorised baked bean can on wheels that is dirt cheap to buy, parts are dirt cheap, and chances are that if you get into a serious accident in it, the insurance won't have to pay out because you'll probably be dead anyway.

I could counter your argument by saying that a modified Corsa is still cheaper to insure that an original, unmodified Ferrari 250 GTO!

A far better example would be a comparison between a standard BMW E46 330D and an E46 320D that has been modified with 330D parts to make it the same spec.

Run those two through an insurance company and then come back and tell us that the modified car is cheaper to insure!



Petrolhead95 said:
Edit - insurance makes no sense. It costs the same to insure a Fiesta ST as a 1.2 Corsa. Go figure.

Edited by Petrolhead95 on Friday 20th March 18:10
Again your argument is flawed!

Someone buying a Fiesta ST shows that they have a good level of intelligence.

Someone buying a 1.2 Corsa shows that they are a blithering buffoon who may well not have the intelligence to drive properly!

Petrolhead95

7,043 posts

153 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Insurance makes a lot of sense, but you'd rather pretend it doesn't.

What does a standard Corsa with a big engine cost? I bet it's not as much, although you sound like a kid weaned on Max Power.
Depends on what parts you go for, if you can do it yourself and can use your own equipment/tools. Probably not much less than to buy a used 330D. I don't honestly know, I've only toyed with the Z20LET idea so far. Max Power? Bit before my time, chap. Not really into big exhausts, tacky bodykits and flames. I'd rather go faster.

4rephill said:
Again your argument is flawed!

Someone buying a Fiesta ST shows that they have a good level of intelligence.

Someone buying a 1.2 Corsa shows that they are a blithering buffoon who may well not have the intelligence to drive properly!
I bought the Corsa because it was dirt cheap to run and buy in my first year. Quite honestly I think it's a great car and I don't regret it at all. In the almost 20,000 miles I've done in it, it has required a new headlight bulb which was free and an oil pressure switch which was £6. Cheap? Yep. Crap? Nope.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

162 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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This must be a pet hate for some, but a well driven car with tax, MOT and some level of insurance being driven with the incorrect engine is less of a crime than simply "driving without insurance" IMO.

shep1001

4,599 posts

188 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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StottyEvo said:
This must be a pet hate for some, but a well driven car with tax, MOT and some level of insurance being driven with the incorrect engine is less of a crime than simply "driving without insurance" IMO.
The premium paid reflects all of the risk factors which include the power of the car. Insurers liability will cover the damage to any third party but a chaved up st box or a well modified car would receive limited or no payout for failing to disclose anything that was not factory standard. Why pay for the privilege of being uninsured against your losses? you might as well do TP only and pay a lower premium.

eldar

21,614 posts

195 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
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Petrolhead95 said:
I bought the Corsa because it was dirt cheap to run and buy in my first year. Quite honestly I think it's a great car and I don't regret it at all. In the almost 20,000 miles I've done in it, it has required a new headlight bulb which was free and an oil pressure switch which was £6. Cheap? Yep. Crap? Nope.
Of course it was crap, the God Clarkson said so (before he moved to Audi then Peugeot), and his adherents are as devoted as any religious bigot.

Thrilling cars Vauxhall? Not usually, but otherwise cheap to run and as reliable as most others.

JagXJR

1,261 posts

128 months

Sunday 22nd March 2015
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In my experience TP insurance has rarely been much less than fully comp, legally you have to have fully comp if it is on Hire Purchase so I tend to go for this regardless these days.

shep1001

4,599 posts

188 months

Sunday 22nd March 2015
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JagXJR said:
In my experience TP insurance has rarely been much less than fully comp, legally you have to have fully comp if it is on Hire Purchase so I tend to go for this regardless these days.
Years ago it was when I first started driving but then a lot has moved on in the last 20 years

98elise

26,380 posts

160 months

Sunday 22nd March 2015
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StottyEvo said:
This must be a pet hate for some, but a well driven car with tax, MOT and some level of insurance being driven with the incorrect engine is less of a crime than simply "driving without insurance" IMO.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for a driver who's paid a bit of their insurance, and is happy for everyone else to shoulder their risk.


LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Sunday 22nd March 2015
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JagXJR said:
In my experience TP insurance has rarely been much less than fully comp, legally you have to have fully comp if it is on Hire Purchase so I tend to go for this regardless these days.
Legally? You might have a contract that says you must have fully comp, but there is no law that says you have to

Madscanner

536 posts

193 months

Sunday 22nd March 2015
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xjsdriver said:
_rubinho_ said:
Just spotted this evening here...

It's an A45 AMG until you read the listing and it says:
eBay listing said:
This car has had a full a45 conversion, on log book it shows a180, cheaper on insurance,
Reported to eBay; why do they think they can get away with it?

madmadmad
I'd be surprised if fleabay do any more than send you a letter full of meaningless platitudes.
You could always try using this - http://www.shopthem.com/DVLA_Form.htm

Edited by Madscanner on Sunday 22 March 12:27


Edited by Madscanner on Sunday 22 March 12:29

JagXJR

1,261 posts

128 months

Sunday 22nd March 2015
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LoonR1 said:
JagXJR said:
In my experience TP insurance has rarely been much less than fully comp, legally you have to have fully comp if it is on Hire Purchase so I tend to go for this regardless these days.
Legally? You might have a contract that says you must have fully comp, but there is no law that says you have to
So that contract isn't legal then?