Help.... Someone's parked in my garage...
Discussion
johnfm said:
LoonR1 said:
What a load of crap. The tenant should get onto Pepipoo and refute the speculative invoices and penalty fees being charged by the OP. He'll have to demonstrate an actual loss too. Were his neighbours charging the same fees for use of their garage?
That's how people parking where they shouldn't threads go isn't it?
Not really, no.That's how people parking where they shouldn't threads go isn't it?
In this case, the OP is also the landowner. The tenant is trespassing.
In you incredibly witty post, in most cases the 'parking management companies' are not the landowners, more often than not have no enforceable contract with the victims of their claims and, in the rare event that they have met the standard for the formation of a contract, the charges they claim are unenforceable penalties.
Apart from that, the two examples are almost identical.
I'm inclined to say change the locks while she's out, but if the garage door is the only means of access to the fuse box I can't see you being able to refuse access. As a tenant myself I'd find it wholly impractical if I were unable to access the fuse box given that a trip switch pings every time a lightbulb dies. Difficult one.
Rangeroverover said:
If the garage is not part of the AST and is specifically excluded, inform the tenant and the DPS that the cost of removal of tenants car will be deducted from their deposit.
Have cake and eat itHow can you deduct the cost of something unrelated to the tenancy from the deposit?
If the garage is not clearly excluded from the tenancy, forget about it, any attempt to interfere could be considered unlawful eviction.
And if it is excluded, sounds like a very dubious situation, is the flat being let with bills included, or is the tenant paying all the bills for the property?
And if it is excluded, sounds like a very dubious situation, is the flat being let with bills included, or is the tenant paying all the bills for the property?
johnfm said:
LoonR1 said:
What a load of crap. The tenant should get onto Pepipoo and refute the speculative invoices and penalty fees being charged by the OP. He'll have to demonstrate an actual loss too. Were his neighbours charging the same fees for use of their garage?
That's how people parking where they shouldn't threads go isn't it?
Not really, no.That's how people parking where they shouldn't threads go isn't it?
In this case, the OP is also the landowner. The tenant is trespassing.
In you incredibly witty post, in most cases the 'parking management companies' are not the landowners, more often than not have no enforceable contract with the victims of their claims and, in the rare event that they have met the standard for the formation of a contract, the charges they claim are unenforceable penalties.
Apart from that, the two examples are almost identical.
Ok for somebody to use your kitchen/bathroom/Xbox as there's no contract?
Pain in the arse but I would look to getting the fuse box moved if you don't want to have tenants in the garage, electrical safety comes under the HSE and tenants should have access to MCU, fuses and isolator, it's not a must but especially renting to students I'd give them every chance to access that otherwise you'll constantly be called out when they trip a fuse due to running 4 hair dryers at once.
LoonR1 said:
Retroman said:
LoonR1 said:
What a load of crap. The tenant should get onto Pepipoo and refute the speculative invoices and penalty fees being charged by the OP. He'll have to demonstrate an actual loss too. Were his neighbours charging the same fees for use of their garage?
That's how people parking where they shouldn't threads go isn't it?
It would be quite easy to demonstrate an actual loss.That's how people parking where they shouldn't threads go isn't it?
You put the car you want to store there but are unable to somewhere else, then get an invoice from that land / garage owner for the storage fees you incurred whilst someone was parking in your building without permission.
I was stating the normal position of everyone when a poster comes on bleating that they've got a parking ticket.
I think you've got three different legal areas at play.
Landlord/tenancy - is it absolutely clear to the dumbest drongo that the garage is not in the AST? Otherwise anything you do could be seen as harrasment.
Parking - I thought if someone parked on your property you could not immobilise it or lock it in without sign-age as fair warning
Trespass - if you remove someone else's property from your land I thought you had a duty of notice & care - i.e you can't dump it in the street without notice.
Also it's not strictly what the law is. If you do something and get a inexperienced copper turning up who only knows a) you can't harass tenants, and b) you can't lockin cars, then you going to have hassle. Double this if minorities are involved.
Go and talk to them, take a witness, make your points.
Landlord/tenancy - is it absolutely clear to the dumbest drongo that the garage is not in the AST? Otherwise anything you do could be seen as harrasment.
Parking - I thought if someone parked on your property you could not immobilise it or lock it in without sign-age as fair warning
Trespass - if you remove someone else's property from your land I thought you had a duty of notice & care - i.e you can't dump it in the street without notice.
Also it's not strictly what the law is. If you do something and get a inexperienced copper turning up who only knows a) you can't harass tenants, and b) you can't lockin cars, then you going to have hassle. Double this if minorities are involved.
Go and talk to them, take a witness, make your points.
Kateg28 said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
Petrus1983 said:
Thanks for the feedback - it pushed me to not being such a p**sy about things and the car is now gone - PH wins. My car now arrives in the morning and locks will be added!!
So what happened?
RWD cossie wil said:
Kateg28 said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
Petrus1983 said:
Thanks for the feedback - it pushed me to not being such a p**sy about things and the car is now gone - PH wins. My car now arrives in the morning and locks will be added!!
So what happened?
Petrus1983 said:
I don't know what vbrj is :/ I just text her to say that I was coming round to help myself to her fridge contents and watch tv for a bit (courtesy of kind PH advice) and I'd meet her in her bed to discuss terms... The car was moved almost instantly
If that is even close to the truth you have committed a crime and are not fit to be a landlord Petrus1983 said:
I don't know what vbrj is :/ I just text her to say that I was coming round to help myself to her fridge contents and watch tv for a bit (courtesy of kind PH advice) and I'd meet her in her bed to discuss terms... The car was moved almost instantly
Vigilante bum rape justiceging84 said:
Petrus1983 said:
I don't know what vbrj is :/ I just text her to say that I was coming round to help myself to her fridge contents and watch tv for a bit (courtesy of kind PH advice) and I'd meet her in her bed to discuss terms... The car was moved almost instantly
If that is even close to the truth you have committed a crime and are not fit to be a landlord 
OpulentBob said:
ging84 said:
Petrus1983 said:
I don't know what vbrj is :/ I just text her to say that I was coming round to help myself to her fridge contents and watch tv for a bit (courtesy of kind PH advice) and I'd meet her in her bed to discuss terms... The car was moved almost instantly
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