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ruggedscotty said:
I love it when peeps trott out the NIMBY...... Yep indeed its a case of not in My back yard - well front actually as I will soon look out at a fence.
You would be very surprised about the extent of NIMBY that exists - most never get to the point where something happens that irks them. But when it does it does. See below drawing - the red line represents where the fence will be. Then you see just how close it is to the properties on the street.
A place for everything as the say and that isnt where it should be.
Well that plan makes it easy for you to object.You would be very surprised about the extent of NIMBY that exists - most never get to the point where something happens that irks them. But when it does it does. See below drawing - the red line represents where the fence will be. Then you see just how close it is to the properties on the street.
A place for everything as the say and that isnt where it should be.
The bloody fence is touching someone elses.
Go round and speak to everyone else in the close. See who's happy to put in 50 notes to stop this. Invest that in a planning consultant to put forward an objection. Use the same as a template for every other resident to object. 20 objections is difficult to ignore.
There's going to be considerable light pollution out of the back windows of 10 houses.
Whoever is near the fence is going to have noise pollution of footballs bashing into the fence, feet from their back garden.
Who's paying for damage to windows when balls go over?
Were you consulted by the landowner before the planning went in? Not doing so is now seen as poor form south of the border.
Get professional advice, and hunt as a pack and tub thump together. You have a very good chance of a positive result.
Been getting advice on this and it is looking positive
going in with big guns
The Human Rights Act
Protection of property
id a good one indeed. if anything will delay and this has to be answered to.
also the FA recommendations are over 50 meters separation between house and pitch. again one that's going to throw a lot of weight into this.
nearly 70 objections against this development.
going in with big guns
The Human Rights Act
Protection of property
id a good one indeed. if anything will delay and this has to be answered to.
also the FA recommendations are over 50 meters separation between house and pitch. again one that's going to throw a lot of weight into this.
nearly 70 objections against this development.
I asked this of someone else recently and received no reply. Perhaps you'll be more accommodating, especially since you regard this as a human rights issue...
If this development was being made in identical circumstances, except you lived in a different village some 20 miles away, would you be taking such an interest?
If this development was being made in identical circumstances, except you lived in a different village some 20 miles away, would you be taking such an interest?
JustinP1 said:
Well that plan makes it easy for you to object.
The bloody fence is touching someone elses.
The red line is the limit of the site boundary - not necessarily the location of the fence. From that plan - it looks like the fence is well inside the site boundary (i.e. the rectangular area with black dotted line).The bloody fence is touching someone elses.
The blue line is the boundary of any land owned by the applicant but which is close to or adjacent to the property.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/1app/maps...
Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 26th April 12:34
Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 26th April 12:34
Moonhawk said:
JustinP1 said:
Well that plan makes it easy for you to object.
The bloody fence is touching someone elses.
The red line is the limit of the site boundary - not necessarily the location of the fence. From that plan - it looks like the fence is well inside the site boundary (i.e. the rectangular area with black dotted line).The bloody fence is touching someone elses.
The blue line is the boundary of any land owned by the applicant but which is close to or adjacent to the property.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/1app/maps...
Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 26th April 12:34
Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 26th April 12:34
JustinP1 said:
The OP said that the red line was the fence - so took that as he had annotated a map himself - I must admit that it seemed a poor design to me...
I'd be surprised if the red line did denote the fence if for no other reason than the oblique angle at which the red and blue lines meet would make construction and maintenance problematic (you'd basically have a corner of the playing field on a house fence line).There should be more detailed plans available via the planning portal showing the detail. All this map appears to show is the site boundary.
The grey lines are the existing pitch boundry. The new 5 a side pitch is being built on that ground. The red line marking the extent of the new development.
The comment on if I would be bothered if it was 20 miles away.... Yes I would. And I fail to understand the way that folks seem to be quite okay with pulling out the not in my back garden argument. The whole ethos is to work together and to ensure that any development does not seriously encroach on peoples environment. What is being proposed here is a substantial change.
Lighting on till 10pm each week night and 8pm at the weekends. And from past experience such developments are very noisy with shouting and balls hitting the fence. Just now we dont have that - we have the occasional sunday game and thats about it.
Would you seriously like a facilitiy like this planked down right next door to you in what has been a quiet residential area for the past ten years. The school sold the land to developers who built the estate. If the land had not been sold then they could have done this and met the recommendations for siting a five aside football pitch with the minimum recommended distances being exceeded.
anyway over 70 objections and its now affecting house sales in the immediate area....
Barryrs - Thanks for the comment - We have been working on this and doing it properly through research and building a case. Lots going on actually and getting advice and assistance from various people that have experience in this. The European big guns was actually tongue in cheek but actually it may feature, however there are other avenues we are following regarding this issue. Believe it or not Im all for improving the fitness and having decent sporting facilities but these need to be weighed up with the immediate surroundings.
The comment on if I would be bothered if it was 20 miles away.... Yes I would. And I fail to understand the way that folks seem to be quite okay with pulling out the not in my back garden argument. The whole ethos is to work together and to ensure that any development does not seriously encroach on peoples environment. What is being proposed here is a substantial change.
Lighting on till 10pm each week night and 8pm at the weekends. And from past experience such developments are very noisy with shouting and balls hitting the fence. Just now we dont have that - we have the occasional sunday game and thats about it.
Would you seriously like a facilitiy like this planked down right next door to you in what has been a quiet residential area for the past ten years. The school sold the land to developers who built the estate. If the land had not been sold then they could have done this and met the recommendations for siting a five aside football pitch with the minimum recommended distances being exceeded.
anyway over 70 objections and its now affecting house sales in the immediate area....
Barryrs - Thanks for the comment - We have been working on this and doing it properly through research and building a case. Lots going on actually and getting advice and assistance from various people that have experience in this. The European big guns was actually tongue in cheek but actually it may feature, however there are other avenues we are following regarding this issue. Believe it or not Im all for improving the fitness and having decent sporting facilities but these need to be weighed up with the immediate surroundings.
Edited by ruggedscotty on Monday 27th April 19:02
Edited by ruggedscotty on Monday 27th April 19:09
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