Does anyone feel bad about speeding?
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HertsBiker said:
Do you ever feel that you'd be better off with a nice dull slow car, that would match your nice dull slow driving style? I'm sure you are as perfect as a perfect thing, but limited to 70 is boring. The motorway gives good mpg, so how bad is your car if pressing on? I'm confused by your post sorry.
I do have a dull, slow car. It's just very thirsty. I'm only 5 minutes from some amazing scenic roads, so quite why I'd need excitement on my 6am motorway commute is beyond me.Edited by V8Matthew on Friday 3rd April 12:13
Making something a legal requirement doesn't make it a moral requirement. If the government were to make uttering the word "White" illegal tomorrow, I wouldn't have any qualms completely ignoring that law.
Clearly there's nothing particularly special about speeding, the same applies to any law, and hence speed limits that are clearly ridiculous are routinely ignored, unless enforced, in which case they are begrudgingly obeyed for an easy life.
Unfortunately, the powers that be seem to be oblivious to the fact that setting one ridiculous law diminishes the respectability of the law makers and hence all of the laws that they make.
It has now got to the point where many people, including the police, don't pay much attention to any speed limits and simply drive at/enforce the speed that is reasonable for that road in the prevailing conditions.
In other words, IMO, ridiculous speed limits and their enforcement have devalued all speed limits to the point where they are routinely ignored unless enforced.
Clearly there's nothing particularly special about speeding, the same applies to any law, and hence speed limits that are clearly ridiculous are routinely ignored, unless enforced, in which case they are begrudgingly obeyed for an easy life.
Unfortunately, the powers that be seem to be oblivious to the fact that setting one ridiculous law diminishes the respectability of the law makers and hence all of the laws that they make.
It has now got to the point where many people, including the police, don't pay much attention to any speed limits and simply drive at/enforce the speed that is reasonable for that road in the prevailing conditions.
In other words, IMO, ridiculous speed limits and their enforcement have devalued all speed limits to the point where they are routinely ignored unless enforced.
Chris Grayling wanted a law to protect 'have a go heroes'. Someone with legal training pointed out that 'have a go heroes' were already protected by law and that the creation of such a law would be nothing more than an advertorial.
When police officers and social workers have done little to stop young girls being groomed for sexual exploitation in several places across the country I am certainly not going to flagellate myself for exceeding a speed limit.
When police officers and social workers have done little to stop young girls being groomed for sexual exploitation in several places across the country I am certainly not going to flagellate myself for exceeding a speed limit.
Generally speaking the only speed limits I care about observing, from a moral and practical point of view, are residential ones. The others I tend to only care about from a license preservation point of view.
It irritates me when people blast past my house, so in turn I don't do it past theirs. There is also the practical element that I would be devastated to hit someone, or even their pet, on one of these roads. Speed limits in residential areas are therefore imo a "good thing".
Outside of that though as long as I don't feel like I'm risking anyone else, then I don't give it much thought.
However - I tend to agree with the concept of posted speed limits because a) on the whole they aren't enforced anyway, so doesn't affect me and b) idiot drivers need guidance that it's not ok to do 100mph on roads with corners etc where you can practically only do 50, for example. People need to be protected from themselves, as it's others who have to clean up their mess (literally) when they have a big crash.
It irritates me when people blast past my house, so in turn I don't do it past theirs. There is also the practical element that I would be devastated to hit someone, or even their pet, on one of these roads. Speed limits in residential areas are therefore imo a "good thing".
Outside of that though as long as I don't feel like I'm risking anyone else, then I don't give it much thought.
However - I tend to agree with the concept of posted speed limits because a) on the whole they aren't enforced anyway, so doesn't affect me and b) idiot drivers need guidance that it's not ok to do 100mph on roads with corners etc where you can practically only do 50, for example. People need to be protected from themselves, as it's others who have to clean up their mess (literally) when they have a big crash.
Durzel said:
However - I tend to agree with the concept of posted speed limits because a) on the whole they aren't enforced anyway, so doesn't affect me and b) idiot drivers need guidance that it's not ok to do 100mph on roads with corners etc where you can practically only do 50, for example. People need to be protected from themselves, as it's others who have to clean up their mess (literally) when they have a big crash.
There's evidence to suggest that forcing increased protection on to people is not always effective - they'll just take greater risks to bring themselves back to what they deem to be an acceptable risk level for that activity.A good example is American Football - you didn't see anything like the aggressive tackles you see in the modern game many years ago before they were forced to wear helmets etc.
Our village is soon to be a 30 mph zone.
It is a narrow, heavily foliaged, houses very close to the road type place.
After campaigning and lobbying for ages is it too much to expect that drivers keep to the new limit.
You have to be a resident to appreciate how fast cars go through currently.
It is a narrow, heavily foliaged, houses very close to the road type place.
After campaigning and lobbying for ages is it too much to expect that drivers keep to the new limit.
You have to be a resident to appreciate how fast cars go through currently.
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