Sorry - best online payment method?

Sorry - best online payment method?

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Blakeatron

Original Poster:

2,514 posts

173 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Selling a mountain bike on Facebook - someone is interested and wants it posting to his friends house so his wife doesn't find out!

He has offered to either paypal or bank transfer.

What other precautions to take? It's £620 so not something I can afford to lose!

covboy

2,575 posts

174 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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His friends house is not in Nigeria is it ? biggrin

Evolved

3,561 posts

187 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Bank transfer would be my preferred choice.

AlexRS2782

8,038 posts

213 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Both have a decent chance of the buyer claiming the item "never arrived" or is "damaged" and claiming the money back. Paypal even more so. Especially if you post the item to a different unconfirmed address other than the one registered one on the Paypal account.

Posting a high value item like a Mountain Bike worth £600+ to his "friends" address - there's nothing that can go wrong there getmecoat

Surely for an item like that, as a buyer, you'd want to collect it and personally make sure it was in the described condition, then take it to your "friends" for storage if you don't want the wife to know? Otherwise if you do post it I would expect one of ...

1 - Item never received at "friends" house. The courier will however have a non descript scribbled signature, but it wont prove who signed for it.
2 - Item delivered damaged.

Both will end with the buyer doing a money chargeback demanding their money back, end up with the buyer keeping the bike, and you being left with neither bike or money.

HQ2

2,290 posts

137 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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You can't do a chargeback on a bank transfer (altho sharing your bank details is not something everyone is comfortable with).

Blakeatron

Original Poster:

2,514 posts

173 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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HQ2 said:
You can't do a chargeback on a bank transfer (altho sharing your bank details is not something everyone is comfortable with).
I thought you couldn't but my dad said you can!? I would rather accept a bank transfer I think - not bothered if he has my account/sort.

I have stalked him on Facebook and he seems legit with a lot of biking pictures!

HQ2

2,290 posts

137 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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All the posts saying people have been scammed after sending £x by bank transfer wouldn't exist. They'd just do a chargeback. A bank can 'undo' an error (sent to wrong account etc) but cant undo a payment on a customer's say so.

Setting up a facebook page that looks legit - ideal to scam lots of folk out of lots of bikes! Are either the buyer, or the delivery address local?

Blakeatron

Original Poster:

2,514 posts

173 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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No he is a good 4 hr round trip away.

I am going to the bank tomorow so see what they recomend

shep1001

4,599 posts

189 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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If you use PAYPAL then it must go to the address on the account used for payment otherwise there is no seller protection. Also if you use PAYPAL make sure you use a delivery service that is tracked & requires a signature on receipt.

btcc123

1,243 posts

147 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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If I sold a £600 mountain bike I would be very wary to send it to the buyers friends address.

Even though it is a 400 mile round trip if the buyer paid my petrol which would be about £70 I would deliver it and take cash on collection.

If you post it and do the bank transfer I would take some detailed photos of the bike,tell the bank what the transfer in your account will be for,you have taken photos,sending to the buyers friends address and tell the bank not to reverse the transfer as you are genuine and he may not be.

Evolved

3,561 posts

187 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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You can't charge back a bank transfer, the only time they can be refused is if the account they've been sent from is used fraudulently.

Bank transfer over paypal any day of the week!

Cooperman

4,428 posts

250 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Why does this post start with 'Sorry'?

DAN TEMPLE

26 posts

115 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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To the above: he's probably a decent English gentleman to the creator of the thread paypal is fine.

barker22

1,037 posts

167 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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I would be telling him to meet you half way and exchanging cash

Nimby

4,589 posts

150 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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I know you said "online" but a cheque would be 100% safe after six working days.

Meoricin

2,880 posts

169 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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DAN TEMPLE said:
To the above: he's probably a decent English gentleman to the creator of the thread paypal is fine.
Decent English gentlemen don't apologize unless there's something to apologize for, though.

Also, bank transfer only - Paypal's far too risky in a situation like this, too easy to reverse.

budfox

1,510 posts

129 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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It's a scam.

Blakeatron

Original Poster:

2,514 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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I was apologising for asking a question that has probably been asked numerous times, but my search skills were missing at the time.

I went to the bank this morning - they said a commercial bacs is reversible in some situations. A cash payment transfer (he goes to the counter and pays cash into your account) is non reversible.

The person has transferred the money and it is showing in my account.


456mgt

2,504 posts

266 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Sorry, didn't see this before. This is what I would use in these circumstances: https://www.fizzpay.com/

Oggs

8,813 posts

254 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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456mgt said:
Sorry, didn't see this before. This is what I would use in these circumstances: https://www.fizzpay.com/
I will check it out. Cheers