Driving to MOT test centre with no MOT not direct route

Driving to MOT test centre with no MOT not direct route

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rewc

2,187 posts

233 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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This topic comes up regularly. On one of the previous discussions Derek Smith related how as a Police Officer he was part of the prosecution where a driver had taken a non direct route or something like an unreasonable time to get to a pre booked MOT. The Court dismissed the case.

btcc123

1,243 posts

147 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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I am not sure what all the fuss is about.If you have to fill up with petrol on the way to the MOT station its not a problem just make sure you have the paperwork in the car to prove that you have an MOT booked.Police will be fine if you are stopped and explain the situation.

Dont forget to pay for the petrol.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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mph1977 said:
in fact you may notice on other motoring forums ( i.e. the beige one) the pre-booked MOT being used as a means to allow none MoT vehicles to be subject to a several hundred mile 'epic collecshun road trip '...
Which is the beige motoring forum? Go on, give us a clue!

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Digby said:
When did the the world get so terrified?
This. Never ceases to amaze me how everyone on here seems to be obsessed with complying with every possible scenario before driving their car.

Are you all so precious about absolute compliance with speed limits?

I'm waiting for the "I can't tell on my speedo if I'm doing 30.1mph what happens if I get pulled?" thread.


Tunku

7,703 posts

228 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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I might have driven with expired tax to an MOT 55 miles away. It wasn't even booked. I like living dangerously rolleyes

carlove

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7,565 posts

167 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Didn't think of a jerry can, will do that.

Not terrified, it's just as grown up adults, it's sometimes just better to be safe than sorry rather than a "fk the police" attitude.

You can go over the speed limit see a police car and slow down, you can drive with no MOT, see a police car, their ANPR goes off, you get pulled and are lucky enough to have an officer having a bad day and report it, admittedly being pulled and actually getting reported is very unlikely, but not impossible.

I did think they could reject the test if low fuel, fuel gauge is resting on empty. Been about 5 years since I've had a car go for an MOT and first time for my son.

Variomatic

2,392 posts

161 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Digby said:
When did the the world get so terrified?
This. Never ceases to amaze me how everyone on here seems to be obsessed with complying with every possible scenario before driving their car.

Are you all so precious about absolute compliance with speed limits?

I'm waiting for the "I can't tell on my speedo if I'm doing 30.1mph what happens if I get pulled?" thread.
Ever since they started policing the roads almost entirely by camera. Nothing quite like an invisible, all-seeing overseer to keep most people in line - the major religions have been using them for centuries wink

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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carlove said:
Didn't think of a jerry can, will do that.
You're kidding me, right?

carlove said:
I did think they could reject the test if low fuel, fuel gauge is resting on empty.
The MOT doesn't require a fuel gauge to be fitted or working.

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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The Mad Monk said:
Which is the beige motoring forum? Go on, give us a clue!
the one which the swear filter doesn' t like; a u t o s h i t e

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Variomatic said:
Ever since they started policing the roads almost entirely by camera. Nothing quite like an invisible, all-seeing overseer to keep most people in line - the major religions have been using them for centuries wink
Not sure if serious

I regualrly drive at 10mph or more over the speed limit. I drove my brothers car today to drop it off 20 miles away and I'm not on his insurance. I've never displayed road tax on my motorbikes (obviously not an issue now). I've driven cars without road tax plenty of times, ditto MOTs.

I've never once received any sort of automated fine for any of this.

Variomatic

2,392 posts

161 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Not sure if serious

I regualrly drive at 10mph or more over the speed limit. I drove my brothers car today to drop it off 20 miles away and I'm not on his insurance. I've never displayed road tax on my motorbikes (obviously not an issue now). I've driven cars without road tax plenty of times, ditto MOTs.

I've never once received any sort of automated fine for any of this.
Yes, it is a serious suggestion.

A lot of people seem to hear the "cameras everywhere" stories and become almost paranoid about being 110% legit 120% of the time, in the same way that some people become Ned Flanders.

Others will go out of their way to "beat" the system, either through legal loopholes or getting absolution for their sins in return for a few magic words.

Some (sounds like you) will apply common sense and go on as normal, trying not to intentionally harm others or do anything really stupid to draw attention to themselves.

Of course, neither religion nor automated traffic policing has much, if any, effect on the real wrongdoers out there. Murderers will still murder regardless of what God thinks and people intent on driving their uninsured, untaxed, unroadworthy cars like Stirling Moss won't worry about cameras because the car's probably mis-registered anyway!

btcc123

1,243 posts

147 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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carlove said:
Didn't think of a jerry can, will do that.

Not terrified, it's just as grown up adults, it's sometimes just better to be safe than sorry rather than a "fk the police" attitude.

You can go over the speed limit see a police car and slow down, you can drive with no MOT, see a police car, their ANPR goes off, you get pulled and are lucky enough to have an officer having a bad day and report it, admittedly being pulled and actually getting reported is very unlikely, but not impossible.

I did think they could reject the test if low fuel, fuel gauge is resting on empty. Been about 5 years since I've had a car go for an MOT and first time for my son.
Even if the policeman is having a bad day he cannot do anything as you are not breaking the law.Yet you want to carry a Jerry can of petrol in the car where there are strict rules on the container,its wording and the amount of fuel you can carry.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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btcc123 said:
Even if the policeman is having a bad day he cannot do anything as you are not breaking the law.Yet you want to carry a Jerry can of petrol in the car where there are strict rules on the container,its wording and the amount of fuel you can carry.
Here is a mad idea. Go get the petrol first then fill the car up at home. Then drive to MOT without jerry can.


mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Variomatic said:
Yes, it is a serious suggestion.

A lot of people seem to hear the "cameras everywhere" stories and become almost paranoid about being 110% legit 120% of the time, in the same way that some people become Ned Flanders.

Others will go out of their way to "beat" the system, either through legal loopholes or getting absolution for their sins in return for a few magic words.

Some (sounds like you) will apply common sense and go on as normal, trying not to intentionally harm others or do anything really stupid to draw attention to themselves.

Of course, neither religion nor automated traffic policing has much, if any, effect on the real wrongdoers out there. Murderers will still murder regardless of what God thinks and people intent on driving their uninsured, untaxed, unroadworthy cars like Stirling Moss won't worry about cameras because the car's probably mis-registered anyway!
you only need look at the panic over the new VED system to see the manifestation of the 110 % legit stuff ...

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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jmorgan said:
btcc123 said:
Even if the policeman is having a bad day he cannot do anything as you are not breaking the law.Yet you want to carry a Jerry can of petrol in the car where there are strict rules on the container,its wording and the amount of fuel you can carry.
Here is a mad idea. Go get the petrol first then fill the car up at home. Then drive to MOT without jerry can.
I tried that. The driver refused to let me on board the bus...

Riley Blue

20,961 posts

226 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Red Devil said:
jmorgan said:
btcc123 said:
Even if the policeman is having a bad day he cannot do anything as you are not breaking the law.Yet you want to carry a Jerry can of petrol in the car where there are strict rules on the container,its wording and the amount of fuel you can carry.
Here is a mad idea. Go get the petrol first then fill the car up at home. Then drive to MOT without jerry can.
I tried that. The driver refused to let me on board the bus...
If it's not too expensive a fare, take a taxi and put the can in the boot.

NiceCupOfTea

25,289 posts

251 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Trouble with the "why so scared?" outlook - most people these days have been subject to a "letter of the law" no discretion FPN or something. In days gone by if you chanced your arm you might often get a bit of discretion if there's no harm caused. Nobody is prepared to take the risk now as they're terrified of some faceless bureaucrat giving them 6 points or crushing their car ona technicality.

On a related point I had been giving consideration to doing similar - I use a garage near my parents for most MOT/servicing work, I am booked in in 10 days but my MOT expires next week. I had considered driving up to my parents' and the following day to the garage. To the letter of the law it would seem to be valid and I am not trying to take the mick - it is a well looked after car - but I don't fancy arguing the toss with a jobsworth at the side of the M40 so I will get it MOTed locally first.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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"Most people" what a load of rubbish. I bet it's a mintorth and white a considerable one. I don't see any change in the way things are today for me personally, compared to 10 or 20 years ago. I Get pulled very occasionally, and have always had discretion applied. I speed loads and the chances of getting caught are negligible, I keep my cars, bikes and can taxed and MOTd. I don't play the wibblist Freeman ste and, as a reasonable member of society, I most definitely do not give it billy big bks when stopped by the police.

Life's simple and nowhere near the Orwellian nightmare that the paranoid lot seem to think we live in.

NiceCupOfTea

25,289 posts

251 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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Well LoonR1 I speak as I find, and in my personal experience and that of most people who I have spoken to on the subject say that they are much less likely to "take a risk" on the small stuff.

I'm sure the powers that be would say "mission accomplished", but we are not talking about serial insurance evaders, or people driving like penises all the time, rather people driving a few extra miles to a booked MOT, or doing 85 on a clear motorway (the hoo-hah with new cameras on the M25 has noticeable slowed progress IME and led to a lot of panic breaking at gantries on the Kent section).

So, normally law abiding citizens get hit by the full force of the law for minor indiscretions while repeat offenders who know how to play the system seem to be able to get away with it. I still don't understand how there are so many untaxed uninsured cars on the road - surely ANPR should be able to pick them all off? It's a sad state of affairs IMHO.

Mopar440

410 posts

112 months

Saturday 28th March 2015
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NiceCupOfTea said:
in my personal experience and that of most people who I have spoken to on the subject
"Most people you have spoken to on the subject"? How many is "most people" Two or three? If you've spoken to more than that "on the subject" then you are one boring fella.