Driving to a garage for repairs with no tax/MOT?
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This has probably been asked hundreds of times... But I can't seem to find a straight answer!
My car is currently SORN and has no MOT. It is still insured.
Before I take it for an MOT, I need to drive it to a garage about 40 miles away for repairs, then obviously drive it back again to my home when repaired, and then to an MOT when I get one booked.
Is this legal?
My car is currently SORN and has no MOT. It is still insured.
Before I take it for an MOT, I need to drive it to a garage about 40 miles away for repairs, then obviously drive it back again to my home when repaired, and then to an MOT when I get one booked.
Is this legal?
https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/the-mot-test
"If your MOT has expired
You can’t drive your vehicle on the road if the MOT’s expired. You could be prosecuted if caught.
The only exception is if you’ve already booked an MOT and are driving your vehicle to the test centre."
Doubtless you will be told all sorts of 'wizard wheezes' to try & get round it.
"If your MOT has expired
You can’t drive your vehicle on the road if the MOT’s expired. You could be prosecuted if caught.
The only exception is if you’ve already booked an MOT and are driving your vehicle to the test centre."
Doubtless you will be told all sorts of 'wizard wheezes' to try & get round it.
NinjaPower said:
Would you be able to elaborate please?
I was under the impression you could drive your car to a garage for a repair prior to taking it for an MOT?
I was under the impression you could drive your car to a garage for a repair prior to taking it for an MOT?
No, you can drive to an MOT you have booked, that's all -
https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-notific...
You can only drive an untaxed vehicle on a public road if you’re driving it to or from a licensed station for a pre-arranged MOT, vehicle identity check, or weight or emissions test.
paintman said:
https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/the-mot-test
"If your MOT has expired
You can’t drive your vehicle on the road if the MOT’s expired. You could be prosecuted if caught.
The only exception is if you’ve already booked an MOT and are driving your vehicle to the test centre."
Doubtless you will be told all sorts of 'wizard wheezes' to try & get round it.
So if I take it for an MOT and it fails, can I then drive it somewhere to be repaired for the re-test?"If your MOT has expired
You can’t drive your vehicle on the road if the MOT’s expired. You could be prosecuted if caught.
The only exception is if you’ve already booked an MOT and are driving your vehicle to the test centre."
Doubtless you will be told all sorts of 'wizard wheezes' to try & get round it.
It's all in the link
"If your vehicle fails the test
You’ll get a ‘notification of failure’ from the test centre if your vehicle fails the test. The failure will be recorded in the secure central MOT database.
You can still drive your vehicle if it fails the test and its existing MOT certificate is still valid (ie you got it tested before the expiry date). However, you might be stopped by police and prosecuted if your vehicle is unroadworthy.
If the vehicle fails the test and the certificate has expired, you can only drive it to:
have the failed defects repaired
a pre-arranged MOT test appointment"
BUT If there's something noted by the tester that in his opinion makes the vehicle dangerous or unsafe then either trailer it away to a place of repair - or a breakers - or leave it at the garage to be repaired
"If your vehicle fails the test
You’ll get a ‘notification of failure’ from the test centre if your vehicle fails the test. The failure will be recorded in the secure central MOT database.
You can still drive your vehicle if it fails the test and its existing MOT certificate is still valid (ie you got it tested before the expiry date). However, you might be stopped by police and prosecuted if your vehicle is unroadworthy.
If the vehicle fails the test and the certificate has expired, you can only drive it to:
have the failed defects repaired
a pre-arranged MOT test appointment"
BUT If there's something noted by the tester that in his opinion makes the vehicle dangerous or unsafe then either trailer it away to a place of repair - or a breakers - or leave it at the garage to be repaired
Edited by paintman on Monday 30th March 00:07
NinjaPower said:
Well bks!
That's a bit of a pain, but as inmentioned, nothing a trailer wouldn't cure.
I can borrow trade plates for the tax issue, but clearly I can't get repairs carried out at a garage without the trailer.
You don't need trade plates if the following applies: That's a bit of a pain, but as inmentioned, nothing a trailer wouldn't cure.
I can borrow trade plates for the tax issue, but clearly I can't get repairs carried out at a garage without the trailer.
"You can only drive an untaxed vehicle on a public road if you’re driving it to or from a licensed station for a pre-arranged MOT, vehicle identity check, or weight or emissions test."
https://www.gov.uk/sorn-statutory-off-road-notific...
Bear in mind that trade plates are for trade use by motor traders/testers on cars temporarily in their possession. So borrowing a set for private use on a car you own is likely to get you & the plate holder in trouble!
Edited by paintman on Monday 30th March 00:20
Purity14 said:
NinjaPower said:
So if I take it for an MOT and it fails, can I then drive it somewhere to be repaired for the re-test?
You can only drive it to an MOT that you have booked.Driving FROM an MOT station after a failure with no current MOT, the only place you are permitted to go is to another garage that will perform an MOT that you have previously booked.
Having been repaired-the car can then be driven to have another prearranged test
Purity14 said:
You can only drive it to an MOT that you have booked.
Driving FROM an MOT station after a failure with no current MOT, the only place you are permitted to go is to another garage that will perform an MOT that you have previously booked.
Erm bksDriving FROM an MOT station after a failure with no current MOT, the only place you are permitted to go is to another garage that will perform an MOT that you have previously booked.
What happens if i use my local council MOT station and it fails
Do i just set fire to the car and leave it there
No i drive it to a place of repair as per the law
if that place of repair happens to be my house then what laws have i broken?
NinjaPower said:
This has probably been asked hundreds of times... But I can't seem to find a straight answer!
My car is currently SORN and has no MOT. It is still insured.
Before I take it for an MOT, I need to drive it to a garage about 40 miles away for repairs, then obviously drive it back again to my home when repaired, and then to an MOT when I get one booked.
Is this legal?
Can't the garage who repair your car do the MOT, obviously not just asking.My car is currently SORN and has no MOT. It is still insured.
Before I take it for an MOT, I need to drive it to a garage about 40 miles away for repairs, then obviously drive it back again to my home when repaired, and then to an MOT when I get one booked.
Is this legal?
Purity14 said:
You can only drive it to an MOT that you have booked.
Driving FROM an MOT station after a failure with no current MOT, the only place you are permitted to go is to another garage that will perform an MOT that you have previously booked.
It might be worth having a read of this-Driving FROM an MOT station after a failure with no current MOT, the only place you are permitted to go is to another garage that will perform an MOT that you have previously booked.
Motor Vehicle Tests Regulations 1981 said:
6. Exemptions
(2) Pursuant to section 44(6) the Secretary of State hereby exempts from section 44(1) for use of a vehicle;
(a) (i) for the purpose of submitting it by previous arrangement for, or bringing it away from, an examination, or
(ii) in the course of an examination, for the purpose of taking it to, or bringing it away from, any place where a part of the examination is to be or, as the case may be, has been, carried out, or of carrying out any part of the examination, the person so using it being either—
(A) an examiner, or a Ministry Inspector or an inspector appointed by a designated council, or
(B) a person acting under the personal direction of an examiner, a Ministry
Inspector or a designated Council, or
(iii) where a test certificate is refused on an examination—
(A) for the purpose of delivering it by previous arrangement at, or bringing it away from, a place where work is to be or has been done on it to remedy for a further examination the defects on the ground of which the test certificate was refused; or
(B) for the purpose of delivering it, by towing it, to a place where the vehicle is to be broken up;
(b) for any purpose for which the vehicle is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 42;
(c) where the vehicle has been imported into Great Britain, for the purpose of its being driven after arrival in Great Britain on the journey from the place where it has arrived in Great Britain to a place of residence of the owner or driver of the vehicle;
(d) for the purpose of removing it in pursuance of section 3 of the Refuse Disposal (Amenity) Act 1978 of moving or removing it in pursuance of regulations under section 20 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1967 as altered by the Removal and Disposal of Vehicles (Alteration of Enactments) Order 1967 or of removing it from a parking place in pursuance of an order
under section 31(1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1967, an order relating to a parking place designated under section 35 thereof, or a provision of a designation order having effect by virtue of section 39(2) thereof;
(e) where the vehicle has been detained or seized by a police constable, for police purposes connected with such detention or seizure;
(2) Pursuant to section 44(6) the Secretary of State hereby exempts from section 44(1) for use of a vehicle;
(a) (i) for the purpose of submitting it by previous arrangement for, or bringing it away from, an examination, or
(ii) in the course of an examination, for the purpose of taking it to, or bringing it away from, any place where a part of the examination is to be or, as the case may be, has been, carried out, or of carrying out any part of the examination, the person so using it being either—
(A) an examiner, or a Ministry Inspector or an inspector appointed by a designated council, or
(B) a person acting under the personal direction of an examiner, a Ministry
Inspector or a designated Council, or
(iii) where a test certificate is refused on an examination—
(A) for the purpose of delivering it by previous arrangement at, or bringing it away from, a place where work is to be or has been done on it to remedy for a further examination the defects on the ground of which the test certificate was refused; or
(B) for the purpose of delivering it, by towing it, to a place where the vehicle is to be broken up;
(b) for any purpose for which the vehicle is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 42;
(c) where the vehicle has been imported into Great Britain, for the purpose of its being driven after arrival in Great Britain on the journey from the place where it has arrived in Great Britain to a place of residence of the owner or driver of the vehicle;
(d) for the purpose of removing it in pursuance of section 3 of the Refuse Disposal (Amenity) Act 1978 of moving or removing it in pursuance of regulations under section 20 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1967 as altered by the Removal and Disposal of Vehicles (Alteration of Enactments) Order 1967 or of removing it from a parking place in pursuance of an order
under section 31(1) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1967, an order relating to a parking place designated under section 35 thereof, or a provision of a designation order having effect by virtue of section 39(2) thereof;
(e) where the vehicle has been detained or seized by a police constable, for police purposes connected with such detention or seizure;
SS2. said:
(A) for the purpose of delivering it by previous arrangement at, or bringing it away from, a place where work is to be or has been done on it to remedy for a further examination the defects on the ground of which the test certificate was refused; or
Unless I am wrong (which I could be)I interpret th^s to mean that you can do the following:1. Book an MOT - drive it there. - It will fail (based on what you say is the state of the vehicle) - get the MOT failure report - drive it home.
2. Make appt for repairs (as you mentioned),. which of course will include the items on the failure report. Drive it there - have it repaired - drive it home.
3. Make appt for retest - Drive it to retest
Bobs your thingy!
Does anyone know the rules, for a insured, SORN vehicle with a valid MOT ?
I'm swapping a car over for one in storage tomorrow and would prefer to save myself £22 for the month of March, seeing as the vehicle I'm swapping it for is already taxed.
Looking at SORN page on www.gov.uk, it states that a SORN vehicle can be driven on a public road if pre-booked for an MOT, emissions test or VIC.
I'm swapping a car over for one in storage tomorrow and would prefer to save myself £22 for the month of March, seeing as the vehicle I'm swapping it for is already taxed.
Looking at SORN page on www.gov.uk, it states that a SORN vehicle can be driven on a public road if pre-booked for an MOT, emissions test or VIC.
rfsteel said:
Does anyone know the rules, for a insured, SORN vehicle with a valid MOT ?
I'm swapping a car over for one in storage tomorrow and would prefer to save myself £22 for the month of March, seeing as the vehicle I'm swapping it for is already taxed.
Looking at SORN page on www.gov.uk, it states that a SORN vehicle can be driven on a public road if pre-booked for an MOT, emissions test or VIC.
Slightly naughty look at it. When does vehicle ownership change get entered on DVLA computer ? . Unless anyone here can say otherwise, I'd suggest it's when some clerk fishes the V5 change out from under a stack of others ,and we all know how ling DVLA takes to do anything, and how slow DVLA postal system is . ( Just a thought )I'm swapping a car over for one in storage tomorrow and would prefer to save myself £22 for the month of March, seeing as the vehicle I'm swapping it for is already taxed.
Looking at SORN page on www.gov.uk, it states that a SORN vehicle can be driven on a public road if pre-booked for an MOT, emissions test or VIC.
Edited by Who me ? on Monday 30th March 12:53
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