Told my employer I was leaving, didn't end well!

[hidetheelephants]

Monkeylegend said:

His profile says he is self employed.

May be that's why he got the sack; he is now.

[RobinOakapple]

Jonsv8 said:

RobinOakapple said:

BTW, what I posted has absolutely nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with right and wrong, so is ideal for this forum.

True, and you have contributed the consistently wrong

Ah! Contradiction. I can do that too- it's what you have posted that has been wrong, I have been consistently right.

[Jonsv8]

RobinOakapple said:

I have been consistently right.

RobinOakapple said:

And working for himself before he took the job.


Helps when posters actually read the thread.

Remember that one?

[RobinOakapple]

Can't get wronger than this-

Jonsv8 said:

The wording is important as stated by others and irrespective of your intent but one interpretation could be

- I'm resigning
- I want to work three months notice

One interpretation of the sun rising in the east and setting in the west is that the sun goes around the earth. Doesn't make it right, it's just one interpretation.

[Jonsv8]

RobinOakapple said:

Can't get wronger than this-

Jonsv8 said:

The wording is important as stated by others and irrespective of your intent but one interpretation could be

- I'm resigning
- I want to work three months notice

Which bit of my post is wrong as it pretty much sums up the exact situation?

[singlecoil]

Jonsv8 said:

RobinOakapple said:

Can't get wronger than this-

Jonsv8 said:

The wording is important as stated by others and irrespective of your intent but one interpretation could be

- I'm resigning
- I want to work three months notice

Which bit of my post is wrong as it pretty much sums up the exact situation?

I'm not going to presume to speak for Mr Oakapple, but in a sense to answer is obvious, the bit that is wrong is the bit that he quoted. Admittedly you did hedge your bet somewhat with the 'one interpretation', but it is a wrong interpretation. Several posters have agreed that what the OP said in his email was that he would be leaving at a specified point in the future, not that he was leaving in a month's time.

[Jonsv8]

singlecoil said:

Jonsv8 said:

RobinOakapple said:

Can't get wronger than this-

Jonsv8 said:

The wording is important as stated by others and irrespective of your intent but one interpretation could be

- I'm resigning
- I want to work three months notice

Which bit of my post is wrong as it pretty much sums up the exact situation?

I'm not going to presume to speak for Mr Oakapple, but in a sense to answer is obvious, the bit that is wrong is the bit that he quoted. Admittedly you did hedge your bet somewhat with the 'one interpretation', but it is a wrong interpretation. Several posters have agreed that what the OP said in his email was that he would be leaving at a specified point in the future, not that he was leaving in a month's time.

So on the basis that post was a speculative suggestion as to what may have happened to help explain the events that had occurred, was posted before the OP actually posted the details of his email to his employer, and that the speculation seems to be exactly what the employer thought irrespective of the differing opinions on whether its legal or not.. makes it totally wrong?

For clarity, and you two seem to be blinded to this, reasoned explanations of what may have happened is different to whether its lawful or fair. Most of us are not taking sides but commenting on how we see the evidence. The opposite to your view is not that of employee hating mill owners but ones that look at the facts and make a reasoned argument. Most of us freely acknowledge the OPs intentions and have stated such - but it doesn't change what he actually did and how it was received.

Best friends support you through thick and thin. The best advice comes from those with a balanced outlook,

[singlecoil]

Jonsv8 said:

The best advice comes from those with a balanced outlook,

Which pretty much rules you out, I'm afraid. Maybe it rules me out too. I expect everybody who has posted on this thread believes they have a balanced outlook, but only some of them are right.

Quite honestly I don't think it's worth arguing about any more, no-one here is going to change their views on this.

[threadlock]

I wish there were a way to subscribe to receive thread notifications only when the OP contributes, so those of us hoping to learn of the outcome don't have to wade through all the pointless conjecture, nit-picking and bickering that these threads seem to provoke (and the whiny forum feature requests )

[9mm]

If the OP's initial opinion is vindicated you may expect a (gloating) update.

In most other situations you will hear nothing.

Once the OP started talking about getting quality employment law advice over the BH weekend I was pretty sure where this would end.

[Chris Type R]

threadlock said:

I wish there were a way to subscribe to receive thread notifications only when the OP contributes, so those of us hoping to learn of the outcome don't have to wade through all the pointless conjecture, nit-picking and bickering that these threads seem to provoke (and the whiny forum feature requests )

It's the war bunker all over again.

[JustinP1]

9mm said:

If the OP's initial opinion is vindicated you may expect a (gloating) update.

In most other situations you will hear nothing.

Once the OP started talking about getting quality employment law advice over the BH weekend I was pretty sure where this would end.

I think the OP knew his intentions and where it would end before his first post - when he thought up the title of the thread.

[RobinOakapple]

JustinP1 said:

9mm said:

If the OP's initial opinion is vindicated you may expect a (gloating) update.

In most other situations you will hear nothing.

Once the OP started talking about getting quality employment law advice over the BH weekend I was pretty sure where this would end.

I think the OP knew his intentions and where it would end before his first post - when he thought up the title of the thread.

As has been said, there have been various interpretations, and many of us are having difficulty in understanding how other people's interpretations could vary so much from our own. And yet, they do.

[JustinP1]

RobinOakapple said:

JustinP1 said:

9mm said:

If the OP's initial opinion is vindicated you may expect a (gloating) update.

In most other situations you will hear nothing.

Once the OP started talking about getting quality employment law advice over the BH weekend I was pretty sure where this would end.

I think the OP knew his intentions and where it would end before his first post - when he thought up the title of the thread.

As has been said, there have been various interpretations, and many of us are having difficulty in understanding how other people's interpretations could vary so much from our own. And yet, they do.

I don't think that this has any relevance to my statement at all.

[singlecoil]

I'm sensing some unwillingness to let this matter drop, despite the hopelessness of getting any kind of consensus.

[JustinP1]

Singlecoil, if you actually did have that sense your post count would be a fraction of what it is today!

I don't think this is an issue where posters should be polarised into 'camps' despite Robin's attempts or one which would naturally have consensus anyway.

I've posted here to help the OP and hopefully convince him to gain legal advice, especially about the covenant issue.

Edited by JustinP1 on Monday 20th April 13:52

[singlecoil]

JustinP1 said:

Singlecoil, if you actually did have that sense your post count would be a fraction of what it is today!

Can't quite work out whether or not you are trying to be a funny fellow with that remark, but you have achieved it anyway. Winker.

[JustinP1]

Singlecoil, you did indeed read that with the good nature that was intended.

[threadlock]

So what happened?!

[CraigJ]

Not a great Deal

Ex employer tried quite a few times to get an injunction to stop me working and failed each time.

I put my time and energy into building my business and it is growing every week and is doing much better than I expected.