The HA Are Control Freaks: The future ....

The HA Are Control Freaks: The future ....

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Digby

8,237 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Blue Oval84 said:
The reason it's less successful than it should be is that the temporary limits are often ignored in my experience.
Because you constantly come across them and they make zero sense? You can see five miles into the distance, it's clear, and a 40 mph limit is showing etc.I have lost count of the times I have been genuinely concerned that someone is about to crash into the back of another vehicle due to this.70mph to 30 or 40 mph on a clear road, is an accident waiting to happen..

Someone on here worked with these systems and I seem to remember them suggesting they can be triggered simply by a few trucks being close together etc and may have nothing to do with volumes of traffic or problems.It was also mentioned that often, they are not sure of the location of an issue, so just 'blanket' the area with limits.

All I know is that a while ago, there must have been an issue with the M25 setup as for the first time in a very long time, not a single gantry was lit.Guess what? It was the best journey I have had on that section since before they were all installed.

And before the 'safety' argument gets rolled out, the only thing now stopping you being punted off the motorway by a truck when you break down, is a red 'X'

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Are road users and taxpayers represented as stakeholders?

A long 40mph limit on the northern M25 earlier this week (10 miles?), no obstruction, nothing, zilch. For a change, I wasn't the only trundler at 40ish, but plenty of lorries sweeping past on the limiter.

The verge-mounted signs are a poor design, they can't always be seen if you're in a low vehicle in lane 3 or 4 where the inside lanes are logged with lorries.


CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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V8 Fettler said:
Are road users and taxpayers represented as stakeholders?
roflroflrofl

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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CrutyRammers said:
V8 Fettler said:
Are road users and taxpayers represented as stakeholders?
roflroflrofl
Which begs the obvious question: why not?

telecat

8,528 posts

241 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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M62 yesterday Between the M1 and Huddersfield. Congested? Yep, HA signs on? Nope. Later that day they are on in less congested conditions but it is close to rush hour. Must be on a timer.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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V8 Fettler said:
CrutyRammers said:
V8 Fettler said:
Are road users and taxpayers represented as stakeholders?
roflroflrofl
Which begs the obvious question: why not?
Maybe they are https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nationa...
http://www.transportfocus.org.uk/road-users

But carry on as you were smile

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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speedyguy said:
V8 Fettler said:
CrutyRammers said:
V8 Fettler said:
Are road users and taxpayers represented as stakeholders?
roflroflrofl
Which begs the obvious question: why not?
Maybe they are https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nationa...
http://www.transportfocus.org.uk/road-users

But carry on as you were smile
Who amongst the stakeholders for this particular project represented road users and taxpayers?

carinaman

21,274 posts

172 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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V8 Fettler said:
speedyguy said:
V8 Fettler said:
CrutyRammers said:
V8 Fettler said:
Are road users and taxpayers represented as stakeholders?
roflroflrofl
Which begs the obvious question: why not?
Maybe they are https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nationa...
http://www.transportfocus.org.uk/road-users

But carry on as you were smile
Who amongst the stakeholders for this particular project represented road users and taxpayers?
Their wallets?