MET parking charges at Macdonalds
Discussion
In case it's not been mentioned earlier, the law changed a couple of years ago. Clamping was banned, but the "parking managers" (bandits) were granted the right to sue the REGISTERED KEEPER of the vehicle for breach of contract when the parking charge is not paid, regardless of who was driving.
nickwilcock said:
What reason on earth could you possibly have had for parking at a FAST FOOD restaurant for over 2 1/2 hours? To me that sounds like completely selfish behaviour and the fee you have been asked to pay is entirely reasonable.
Squirm and quote PooPoo all you like, but blocking the MacDonalds car park for legitimate users for all that time is totally unreasonable. Man up, pay up and learn from your selfishness, I suggest.
Throwing personal assumptions around like that isn't adding to your argument. Squirm and quote PooPoo all you like, but blocking the MacDonalds car park for legitimate users for all that time is totally unreasonable. Man up, pay up and learn from your selfishness, I suggest.
There’s a shed load of reasons you could be in there for that amount of time. For one if you bought a coffee, used the free Wi-Fi finished the coffee and bought a burger used the Wi-Fi a bit more then had a dump (whilst using the Wi-Fi of course) and then just as you leave you bump into a friend and offer to buy him a coffee and a doughnut and chat for a bit then look at your watch and blow me if 2 hours hasn't passed.
You are still a paying customer, if they want to limit time spent in there set the Wi-Fi to time out or use logins to warn customers they have been there for a long time.
MET parking are a joke. I had an invoice from them saying I wasn't on the premises, and that they even searched for me. They did no such thing and are blatant liars. Their "operative" was sat in a car, in a space for the entire day. I even watched him get out of the car and go buy food and drink before returning and sitting in his little car and stuffing his face when I went back to discuss the invoice with the manager.
So even if I did leave the carpark, how can they charge me for holding a space up when they allow their own people to do exactly that.
To the OP, follow the procedure for disputing the ticket, they will refuse and have to give you a POPLA reference. Then contact POPLA with the evidence and what happened and just wait for MET to not even bother to turn up, and from what Ive read it costs THEM everytime to go to POPLA.
Corpulent Tosser said:
austinsmirk said:
I also have staff who use a huge retail, parking eye monitored car park as its in a city centre.
they will park for 8/9 hrs- the limit is 3 hrs
parking eye have given up even writing to them now.
It is because of people like this that companies contract in PPCs.they will park for 8/9 hrs- the limit is 3 hrs
parking eye have given up even writing to them now.
Maybe if Austin has parking spaces for customers his staff should park there,
Even better if he was near a station then commuters could utilise his parking for him
Funkycoldribena said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
Personal responsibility perhaps.
It's great that gullible idiots like yourself keep blindly following this line because it keeps these private companies off the rest of us.You keep lining the ppcs pockets with your cash,they work really hard for it....So would you feel differently if it the fast food chain had it's own parking enforcement department? Is it just that they are contracting the work out to a private company that you have a problem with?
Do you object to the fast food chain placing some sort of controls over the parking it provides for it's customers?
If you owned a priviate business with parking and I started to use one of your spaces while I was at work, or shopping elsewhere? Do you think you should be allowed to impose some sort of penalty on me? Do you think that it would be reasonable that you could employ a third party to control the parking or do you think that it would only be legitimate if you directly employed the people controlling the parking yourself?
The problem isn't with the parking companies, it's with the a
holes who take the piss and abuse the rules whenever they think they can get away with it. It's funny but so far i've managed to avoid one of these tickets/invoices. How you ask? Simple, I don't sit for longer than 2 hours in a fast food outlet car park, or use a car park provided for customers of one business while I shop elsewhere, or overstay the time allowed on the ticket etc. It's called respecting the wishes of the car park provider and I suspect those that fall foul of this are those who tend to spend most of the time thinking about themselves, never considering anyone else. It's not fking rocket science. Corpulent Tosser said:
austinsmirk said:
I also have staff who use a huge retail, parking eye monitored car park as its in a city centre.
they will park for 8/9 hrs- the limit is 3 hrs
parking eye have given up even writing to them now.
It is because of people like this that companies contract in PPCs.they will park for 8/9 hrs- the limit is 3 hrs
parking eye have given up even writing to them now.
I wonder where Austin lives, perhaps we should all turn up one day and park in front of his house blocking his drive, then file any complaints he makes to us in the bin....
Devil2575 said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
Personal responsibility perhaps.
It's great that gullible idiots like yourself keep blindly following this line because it keeps these private companies off the rest of us.You keep lining the ppcs pockets with your cash,they work really hard for it....So would you feel differently if it the fast food chain had it's own parking enforcement department? Is it just that they are contracting the work out to a private company that you have a problem with?
Do you object to the fast food chain placing some sort of controls over the parking it provides for it's customers?
If you owned a priviate business with parking and I started to use one of your spaces while I was at work, or shopping elsewhere? Do you think you should be allowed to impose some sort of penalty on me? Do you think that it would be reasonable that you could employ a third party to control the parking or do you think that it would only be legitimate if you directly employed the people controlling the parking yourself?
The problem isn't with the parking companies, it's with the a
holes who take the piss and abuse the rules whenever they think they can get away with it. It's funny but so far i've managed to avoid one of these tickets/invoices. How you ask? Simple, I don't sit for longer than 2 hours in a fast food outlet car park, or use a car park provided for customers of one business while I shop elsewhere, or overstay the time allowed on the ticket etc. It's called respecting the wishes of the car park provider and I suspect those that fall foul of this are those who tend to spend most of the time thinking about themselves, never considering anyone else. It's not fking rocket science. Yes I do have a problem with the ppcs due to the way they operate with no discretion,don't kid yourself they are in it to provide this wonderful service,they want the cash and nothing else.It's not as if they haven't got form for underhand tactics is it? Quite a few have been torn a strip by the courts in the past.
As for your fast food example lets take the Mcds thats near me.This one is extremely busy and has its own playpark on the premises,there's a 90 mins carpark.I took the kids there the other day and probably by the time we queued and ordered that was around 20-25 mins,eating,the littluns probably took another 20-25 mins then went to play on the Mcds provided playpark.Should I be "fined" by a private company after spending 30 quid for overstaying 10 mins?
Maybe people like you should realise that it's only parking a lump of metal,no one is going to die and not every minor indiscretion in life should be penalised.
Funkycoldribena said:
Calm down dear,it's only parking.
Yes I do have a problem with the ppcs due to the way they operate with no discretion,don't kid yourself they are in it to provide this wonderful service,they want the cash and nothing else.It's not as if they haven't got form for underhand tactics is it? Quite a few have been torn a strip by the courts in the past.
As for your fast food example lets take the Mcds thats near me.This one is extremely busy and has its own playpark on the premises,there's a 90 mins carpark.I took the kids there the other day and probably by the time we queued and ordered that was around 20-25 mins,eating,the littluns probably took another 20-25 mins then went to play on the Mcds provided playpark.Should I be "fined" by a private company after spending 30 quid for overstaying 10 mins?
Maybe people like you should realise that it's only parking a lump of metal,no one is going to die and not every minor indiscretion in life should be penalised.
What's your alternative solution to combat selfish drivers then?Yes I do have a problem with the ppcs due to the way they operate with no discretion,don't kid yourself they are in it to provide this wonderful service,they want the cash and nothing else.It's not as if they haven't got form for underhand tactics is it? Quite a few have been torn a strip by the courts in the past.
As for your fast food example lets take the Mcds thats near me.This one is extremely busy and has its own playpark on the premises,there's a 90 mins carpark.I took the kids there the other day and probably by the time we queued and ordered that was around 20-25 mins,eating,the littluns probably took another 20-25 mins then went to play on the Mcds provided playpark.Should I be "fined" by a private company after spending 30 quid for overstaying 10 mins?
Maybe people like you should realise that it's only parking a lump of metal,no one is going to die and not every minor indiscretion in life should be penalised.
Funkycoldribena said:
Calm down dear,it's only parking.
Yes I do have a problem with the ppcs due to the way they operate with no discretion,don't kid yourself they are in it to provide this wonderful service,they want the cash and nothing else.It's not as if they haven't got form for underhand tactics is it? Quite a few have been torn a strip by the courts in the past.
As for your fast food example lets take the Mcds thats near me.This one is extremely busy and has its own playpark on the premises,there's a 90 mins carpark.I took the kids there the other day and probably by the time we queued and ordered that was around 20-25 mins,eating,the littluns probably took another 20-25 mins then went to play on the Mcds provided playpark.Should I be "fined" by a private company after spending 30 quid for overstaying 10 mins?
Maybe people like you should realise that it's only parking a lump of metal,no one is going to die and not every minor indiscretion in life should be penalised.
I'm not kidding myself, they are a company providing a service on the basis that they will make money. The same as the company that is contracted to provide a cleaning service for the building that I work in. I'm sure there are examples of underhand or bad practice, as there will be in any situation. However that doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with the concept. Plenty of companies contract our non-business activities to other companies.Yes I do have a problem with the ppcs due to the way they operate with no discretion,don't kid yourself they are in it to provide this wonderful service,they want the cash and nothing else.It's not as if they haven't got form for underhand tactics is it? Quite a few have been torn a strip by the courts in the past.
As for your fast food example lets take the Mcds thats near me.This one is extremely busy and has its own playpark on the premises,there's a 90 mins carpark.I took the kids there the other day and probably by the time we queued and ordered that was around 20-25 mins,eating,the littluns probably took another 20-25 mins then went to play on the Mcds provided playpark.Should I be "fined" by a private company after spending 30 quid for overstaying 10 mins?
Maybe people like you should realise that it's only parking a lump of metal,no one is going to die and not every minor indiscretion in life should be penalised.
Whether or not you should be fined for overstaying the 90 minutes or not is a matter for Macdonalds. If you have a problem with it then don't use the services they provide. Whether or not the parking rules are applied by the company or an external contractor is irrelevent. The parking contractor does not set the rules and is employed by Macdonalds to enforce them. This isn't just some company that has turned up and decided to lay down the law in another companies car park, they are there because Macdonalds want them there. They are acting on behalf of Macdonalds.
If it's only parking a lump of metal then do it somewhere else. The issue is that parking in certain places is a problem and companies that provide free parking to customers have to do something to stop all and sundry taking the piss. If you don't like the way the parking system works then your problem with with the land owner, not the company enforcing the rules. So take your business elsewhere.
Funkycoldribena said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
No idea and I don't care as it's not relevant to combatting selfish drivers here.
So your better solution to what we have now is what?
Nothing.Not the great problem you make it out to be.So your better solution to what we have now is what?
mybrainhurts said:
In case it's not been mentioned earlier, the law changed a couple of years ago. Clamping was banned, but the "parking managers" (bandits) were granted the right to sue the REGISTERED KEEPER of the vehicle for breach of contract when the parking charge is not paid, regardless of who was driving.
Citation?mybrainhurts said:
In case it's not been mentioned earlier, the law changed a couple of years ago. Clamping was banned, but the "parking managers" (bandits) were granted the right to sue the REGISTERED KEEPER of the vehicle for breach of contract when the parking charge is not paid, regardless of who was driving.
Citation?Upatdawn said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
How many of your 158 minutes where you actually in the business whose car park you were using?
Yes they do have the power to collect, via the County Court.
I didnt actually time my food consumption but then again, neither did they....Yes they do have the power to collect, via the County Court.
i also took a dump, does that count?
wokkadriver said:
mybrainhurts said:
In case it's not been mentioned earlier, the law changed a couple of years ago. Clamping was banned, but the "parking managers" (bandits) were granted the right to sue the REGISTERED KEEPER of the vehicle for breach of contract when the parking charge is not paid, regardless of who was driving.
Citation?Upatdawn said:
£100 reduced to £50 if i comply fast...
two words spring to mind.....2nd is "off"
Appeal on the grounds of the charge being not a true reflection of the loss of business by you over parking, for example 158 minutes is around 38 minutes over assuming you were in a 2 HR carpark, which is then 1/4 or there abouts of the amount of time the company assume you or any other customer would stay to consume there yummy Big Mac and fries, if you give them the benefit say 4 people in the car and a meal is £4.99 x 4 £19.96 , but you didn't lose them the full 2 hrs just a quarter of it so that's a fiver. Offer to pay the £5 + tip if it was good service ....that's what I did...not saying it was a perfect defence but I appealed they MET parking over ruled my appeal ....I went to a POPLA appeal and MET offered no defence.....so I won did send them a cheque for £6.38 that I offered but it's never been cashed.two words spring to mind.....2nd is "off"
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