MET parking charges at Macdonalds
Discussion
Devil2575 said:
Oh shut up.
1. It was a joke.
2. It's actually a fact.
3. Scotland does not suffer the same pressure on parking that the SE of England does.
1. Hard to tell1. It was a joke.
2. It's actually a fact.
3. Scotland does not suffer the same pressure on parking that the SE of England does.
2. Irrelevant. We're discussing PPCs and legal systems not population density. The same could be said about half the counties in England.
3. See 2. above.
Edited by Neonblau on Tuesday 14th April 16:53
Neonblau said:
1. Hard to tell
2. Irrelevant. We're discussing PPCs and legal systems not population density. The same could be said about half the counties in England.
3. See 2. above.
If the emoticon didn't tell you it wasn't intended to be taken seriously then you need to look up what they're for 2. Irrelevant. We're discussing PPCs and legal systems not population density. The same could be said about half the counties in England.
3. See 2. above.
Edited by Neonblau on Tuesday 14th April 16:53
Of course population density is relevant. An area with less pressure on parking is less likely to have problems with people parking.
Corpulent Tosser said:
Rather than just complaining about them has anyone come up with an alternative to PPCs ?
I guess we don't want to go back to clamping, so what can a company do to control the parking in their car park without causing inconvenience to their regular customers or costing the company money?
Employ their own parking attendants perhaps, but then to make it a deterent the charges would be the same as currently charged by the PPC so effectively no different.
And who is going to police them....the councils can't get half of their parking fines right, just think of the amount of unjustified payments people will have to pay, if this is ever to come into being....a bit naive the CT...or you just being Troll again.I guess we don't want to go back to clamping, so what can a company do to control the parking in their car park without causing inconvenience to their regular customers or costing the company money?
Employ their own parking attendants perhaps, but then to make it a deterent the charges would be the same as currently charged by the PPC so effectively no different.
ruff'n'smov said:
Mandalore said:
People deliberately abusing car spaces in fine shocker.....
Companies set up to abuse ignorant customers in huge profits shocker
ts and overstay the parking in the first place, then thy would not be fined at all.That is the point here, not some poncey excuse to bleat like a two year old about needing second chances for being a moron.
I've had 2 of these in recent years - first was at Stanstead airport, that one went away fairly quickly, only had to ignore a couple of letters.
Second was last Halloween on the A10 out of london, had about 4 letters to date, last one from Zenith debit recovery services or something - been asked to pay £50, £100, £150 and most recently £79.99?? You can probably guess my intended course of action...
Have to say though, I now stay away from these MET controlled places, so you could say i've learnt my lesson.
Second was last Halloween on the A10 out of london, had about 4 letters to date, last one from Zenith debit recovery services or something - been asked to pay £50, £100, £150 and most recently £79.99?? You can probably guess my intended course of action...
Have to say though, I now stay away from these MET controlled places, so you could say i've learnt my lesson.
Mandalore said:
But if people did'nt act like tts and overstay the parking in the first place, then thy would not be fined at all.
That is the point here, not some poncey excuse to bleat like a two year old about needing second chances for being a moron.
So why advertise as a previous poster said "a days shopping" and then "fine" people for going over 3 hours?ts and overstay the parking in the first place, then thy would not be fined at all.That is the point here, not some poncey excuse to bleat like a two year old about needing second chances for being a moron.
If we take your analogy why not smother the country in speed cameras?Dont speed-dont get caught...
Have cctv everywhere,what does it matter if you're doing nothing wrong? Maybe you dont mind this road we're going down but I do,and sadly people like you cant see whats happening.
Also i'll ask again for the third time,why just Britain? Im sure theres other countries just as densely populated as ours?
Btw its not a fine.
Funkycoldribena said:
Id like to see ppcs banned completely.Hopefully some stores will realise that these parasites are costing them business.I rarely use the local shops because of the restrictions and use the giant retail carpark that has none.
Yes, or No.Do you really blatantly ignore parking rules on private land, based on some personal opinion that all parking should be free?
ruff'n'smov said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
Rather than just complaining about them has anyone come up with an alternative to PPCs ?
I guess we don't want to go back to clamping, so what can a company do to control the parking in their car park without causing inconvenience to their regular customers or costing the company money?
Employ their own parking attendants perhaps, but then to make it a deterent the charges would be the same as currently charged by the PPC so effectively no different.
And who is going to police them....the councils can't get half of their parking fines right, just think of the amount of unjustified payments people will have to pay, if this is ever to come into being....a bit naive the CT...or you just being Troll again.I guess we don't want to go back to clamping, so what can a company do to control the parking in their car park without causing inconvenience to their regular customers or costing the company money?
Employ their own parking attendants perhaps, but then to make it a deterent the charges would be the same as currently charged by the PPC so effectively no different.
I see though that you have not come up with any alternative to PPCs.
Do you think free for all parking on private property is acceptable ?
Corpulent Tosser said:
ruff'n'smov said:
Corpulent Tosser said:
Rather than just complaining about them has anyone come up with an alternative to PPCs ?
I guess we don't want to go back to clamping, so what can a company do to control the parking in their car park without causing inconvenience to their regular customers or costing the company money?
Employ their own parking attendants perhaps, but then to make it a deterent the charges would be the same as currently charged by the PPC so effectively no different.
And who is going to police them....the councils can't get half of their parking fines right, just think of the amount of unjustified payments people will have to pay, if this is ever to come into being....a bit naive the CT...or you just being Troll again.I guess we don't want to go back to clamping, so what can a company do to control the parking in their car park without causing inconvenience to their regular customers or costing the company money?
Employ their own parking attendants perhaps, but then to make it a deterent the charges would be the same as currently charged by the PPC so effectively no different.
I see though that you have not come up with any alternative to PPCs.
Do you think free for all parking on private property is acceptable ?
But, we DO need something to righteously penalise the minority of self-oblessed people who think that they can deliberately flout the rules - either blatantly or under pretence of xyz..
The trick is NOT to penalise the people that HAVE made a genuine mistake. And that might mean a team of adjudicators who will need to be funded.
The 95% of honest people should not pay for the 5% of non-genuine selfish low life's who are causing the issues, and so the current solution of high fines, and waivers under appeal works on paper - but not in practise.
This thread is quality. Parking companies make millions of gullible fools who pay up without question yet these are the same fools who will stand on their high horse thinking they are better than the rest of us. Bending over at the first sign of authority is not a virtue it's a serious disability.
I've got tons of private tickets, never paid a single one. I just ignore em. Simple.
I've got tons of private tickets, never paid a single one. I just ignore em. Simple.
dogzilla said:
This thread is quality. Parking companies make millions of gullible fools who pay up without question yet these are the same fools who will stand on their high horse thinking they are better than the rest of us. Bending over at the first sign of authority is not a virtue it's a serious disability.
I've got tons of private tickets, never paid a single one. I just ignore em. Simple.
Using a private car park and not following the rules is not a virtue, it's a sight that you're a selfish wI've got tons of private tickets, never paid a single one. I just ignore em. Simple.
ker dogzilla said:
This thread is quality. supermarkets make millions out of gullible fools who pay up without question yet these are the same fools who will stand on their high horse thinking they are better than the rest of us. Bending over at the first sign of authority is not a virtue it's a serious disability.
Do you also walk out of shops without paying for goods ? Maybe that's why supermarkets threaten to take out private prosecutions against shoplifters, I'm struggling to see much difference, you accept a service but do not wish to pay for it.
The populist legislation that was brought in on the back of clamping has not helped legitimate businesses, only selfish feckers.
speedyguy said:
Do you also walk out of shops without paying for goods ?
Maybe that's why supermarkets threaten to take out private prosecutions against shoplifters, I'm struggling to see much difference, you accept a service but do not wish to pay for it.
The populist legislation that was brought in on the back of clamping has not helped legitimate businesses, only selfish feckers.
Does make me laugh how you seem to think that parking is some magical service.Maybe that's why supermarkets threaten to take out private prosecutions against shoplifters, I'm struggling to see much difference, you accept a service but do not wish to pay for it.
The populist legislation that was brought in on the back of clamping has not helped legitimate businesses, only selfish feckers.
How about next time you take your car for a service the garage charges you for parking? (I can guess what reply you're going to come up with for that one).
These companies do not provide a "parking management service" - they don't direct traffic to the nearest space, they don't prevent "YPLAC" they don't prevent thefts and keep your vehicle secure, they are an unblinking eye that simply times your number plate passing between two points, and they can't even get that right.
I challenge these tickets daily as part of my job in fleet management, and recently I earned one myself and had it thrown out at POPLA. I arranged to meet a colleague at a McDonalds near a customer location, we drove in convoy to the customer and spent the afternoon there. My colleague left about an hour before me, and on the way back I stopped at the same McDonalds for coffee and a wazz.
MET send me a speculative invoice for a 6 hour stay - their system is infallible, they do not make mistakes. POPLA suggested otherwise.
The whole bloody industry is a mistake, and a joke. Private parking is not an issue in Scotland or Ireland where POFA does not apply, there is not chaos in supermarkets, there are not people killing eachother over parking spaces, life goes on.
I challenge these tickets daily as part of my job in fleet management, and recently I earned one myself and had it thrown out at POPLA. I arranged to meet a colleague at a McDonalds near a customer location, we drove in convoy to the customer and spent the afternoon there. My colleague left about an hour before me, and on the way back I stopped at the same McDonalds for coffee and a wazz.
MET send me a speculative invoice for a 6 hour stay - their system is infallible, they do not make mistakes. POPLA suggested otherwise.
The whole bloody industry is a mistake, and a joke. Private parking is not an issue in Scotland or Ireland where POFA does not apply, there is not chaos in supermarkets, there are not people killing eachother over parking spaces, life goes on.
dogzilla said:
This thread is quality. Parking companies make millions of gullible fools who pay up without question yet these are the same fools who will stand on their high horse thinking they are better than the rest of us. Bending over at the first sign of authority is not a virtue it's a serious disability.
I've got tons of private tickets, never paid a single one. I just ignore em. Simple.
It is of course because of people like you that that PPCs exist, of course not every selfish parker ignores the charges, or the law would probably already have been changed. As much as I disliked clamping, for selfish irresponsible people like yourself I would quite like to see it return.I've got tons of private tickets, never paid a single one. I just ignore em. Simple.
Personally I too have never paid one of these parking charges, not because I ignore the ticket, but because I have never been issued one.
Funkycoldribena said:
speedyguy said:
Do you also walk out of shops without paying for goods ?
Maybe that's why supermarkets threaten to take out private prosecutions against shoplifters, I'm struggling to see much difference, you accept a service but do not wish to pay for it.
The populist legislation that was brought in on the back of clamping has not helped legitimate businesses, only selfish feckers.
Does make me laugh how you seem to think that parking is some magical service.Maybe that's why supermarkets threaten to take out private prosecutions against shoplifters, I'm struggling to see much difference, you accept a service but do not wish to pay for it.
The populist legislation that was brought in on the back of clamping has not helped legitimate businesses, only selfish feckers.
How about next time you take your car for a service the garage charges you for parking? (I can guess what reply you're going to come up with for that one).
Mandalore said:
Yes, or No.
Do you really blatantly ignore parking rules on private land, based on some personal opinion that all parking should be free?
Do you really blatantly ignore parking rules on private land, based on some personal opinion that all parking should be free?
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