Got burgled today.

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TwigtheWonderkid

43,248 posts

149 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
When our local ambulance depot was burgled they stole the guard dogs & the CCTV cameras.

As said, a decent, probably monitored alarm is the way to go.
rofl

Has anyone ever had their burglar alarm nicked?
I work for an alarm company. We had our CCTV cameras stolen & our boss wanted to employ the robbers, as a review of the footage showed them to be a lot quicker than our engineers biggrin
Reminds me of the old joke, some guys stole my wife's credit cards. I've not reported it because they spend a lot less than her!

nickwilcock

1,522 posts

246 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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"As said, a decent, probably monitored alarm is the way to go."

No doubt that's what the managers of the Hatton Garden bling deposit box place thought. However, it seems that Plod decided it wasn't worth turning out to check why the intruder alarm at a multi-million pound safety deposit box had gone off at 00:21 on Easter Saturday....

A Met Plod spokesman stated "It is too early to say if the handling of the call would have had an impact on the outcome of the incident."

Oh really?

Any 'interesting' photos in the deposit boxes this time, I wonder? It's very reminiscent of the movie The Bank Job, based on the 1971 Baker Street robbery.

Edited by nickwilcock on Saturday 11th April 10:58

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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You have my sympathies, I got turned over about 10 years ago, it was a personal attack on my property and family, although I never found out who was responsible.

My house was trashed, top to bottom in about 40 minutes, they beat the dog, they stole as much as they could before smashing eveything they couldn't carry.

The police were hopeless, scenes of crime equally useless and despite finger prints on mirrors and glass, boot and trainer marks, tyre tracks etc, nobody even had their collar felt, let alone any kind of prosecution.

The 'new' house has security lighting, cctv and an alarm that we always set when we are out or in bed.

I get peace of mind knowing that the alarm is always set, we've had 2 or 3 false alarms that have had my pulse racing, on two occasions it's had me out of bed with my pick axe handle charging downstairs looking for possible burglers, fortunately a faulty sensor and a spider were the causes.

Best advice is to get a quality alarm fitted, you'll sleep better knowing that 99% of criminal scum will do a runner once the alarm is activated.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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nickwilcock said:
"As said, a decent, probably monitored alarm is the way to go."

No doubt that's what the managers of the Hatton Garden bling deposit box place thought. However, it seems that Plod decided it wasn't worth turning out to check why the intruder alarm at a multi-million pound safety deposit box had gone off at 00:21 on Easter Saturday....

A Met Plod spokesman stated "It is too early to say if the handling of the call would have had an impact on the outcome of the incident."

Oh really?

Any 'interesting' photos in the deposit boxes this time, I wonder? It's very reminiscent of the movie The Bank Job, based on the 1971 Baker Street robbery.

Edited by nickwilcock on Saturday 11th April 10:58
Just to clarify your little dig, for others..."plod" didn't decide it wasn't worth turning out to. The civilian call takers miss graded the call for whatever reason, so police officers were never dispatched, or even informed.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

187 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Mk3Spitfire said:
nickwilcock said:
"As said, a decent, probably monitored alarm is the way to go."

No doubt that's what the managers of the Hatton Garden bling deposit box place thought. However, it seems that Plod decided it wasn't worth turning out to check why the intruder alarm at a multi-million pound safety deposit box had gone off at 00:21 on Easter Saturday....

A Met Plod spokesman stated "It is too early to say if the handling of the call would have had an impact on the outcome of the incident."

Oh really?

Any 'interesting' photos in the deposit boxes this time, I wonder? It's very reminiscent of the movie The Bank Job, based on the 1971 Baker Street robbery.

Edited by nickwilcock on Saturday 11th April 10:58
Just to clarify your little dig, for others..."plod" didn't decide it wasn't worth turning out to. The civilian call takers miss graded the call for whatever reason, so police officers were never dispatched, or even informed.
I heard that there may have been repeated false alarms previously which was why it was not prioritised.


The PMP

100 posts

117 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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As spitfire and Devil say - there are many factors as to possibles of why it wasn't attended sooner.
On top of the above, with ever decreasing police numbers if there are 'critical incident(s)' zapping all the resources a judgement call needs to be made ultimately by one person. If there are a number of recent false activations etc this will all become part of the 'informed' judgement call made by that person.

The real question is why TF was there not security staff on site for such a high profile site?...

This is all going off topic anyway. Main thing is the OP was not let down by said recent budget cuts and still received a level of service. Hope the scum get whats coming to them evil

bad company

18,483 posts

265 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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I was burgled back in the 70's. Horrible experience not helped by the fact that a local bib turned out to be the culprit. mad

Steffan

10,362 posts

227 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Mk3Spitfire said:
nickwilcock said:
"As said, a decent, probably monitored alarm is the way to go."

No doubt that's what the managers of the Hatton Garden bling deposit box place thought. However, it seems that Plod decided it wasn't worth turning out to check why the intruder alarm at a multi-million pound safety deposit box had gone off at 00:21 on Easter Saturday....

A Met Plod spokesman stated "It is too early to say if the handling of the call would have had an impact on the outcome of the incident."

Oh really?

Any 'interesting' photos in the deposit boxes this time, I wonder? It's very reminiscent of the movie The Bank Job, based on the 1971 Baker Street robbery.

Edited by nickwilcock on Saturday 11th April 10:58
Just to clarify your little dig, for others..."plod" didn't decide it wasn't worth turning out to. The civilian call takers miss graded the call for whatever reason, so police officers were never dispatched, or even informed.
Very worthwhile correction. Does change the position significantly!

GC8

19,910 posts

189 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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nickwilcock said:
"As said, a decent, probably monitored alarm is the way to go."

No doubt that's what the managers of the Hatton Garden bling deposit box place thought. However, it seems that Plod decided it wasn't worth turning out to check why the intruder alarm at a multi-million pound safety deposit box had gone off at 00:21 on Easter Saturday....

A Met Plod spokesman stated "It is too early to say if the handling of the call would have had an impact on the outcome of the incident."

Oh really?

Any 'interesting' photos in the deposit boxes this time, I wonder? It's very reminiscent of the movie The Bank Job, based on the 1971 Baker Street robbery.

Edited by nickwilcock on Saturday 11th April 10:58
They don't have a deal of imagination, do they? Ive seen a number of safety deposit bank vault robbery films and it is ALWAYS done over a long weekend!

iDrive

409 posts

112 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Mk3Spitfire said:
Just to clarify your little dig, for others..."plod" didn't decide it wasn't worth turning out to. The civilian call takers miss graded the call for whatever reason, so police officers were never dispatched, or even informed.
Thats low.

Blame "Civilian" Call Takers when you haven't the faintest idea what actually happened.

Those same staff ARE The Police, just not Police Officers.

Likely position is a down-graded response due to previous false alarms, there's not a whole lot of decision making involved - it follows Policy.

Your dig is just as unwelcome.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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iDrive said:
Thats low.

Blame "Civilian" Call Takers when you haven't the faintest idea what actually happened.

Those same staff ARE The Police, just not Police Officers.

Likely position is a down-graded response due to previous false alarms, there's not a whole lot of decision making involved - it follows Policy.

Your dig is just as unwelcome.
What are you on about. It's all facts, as released from the organisation themself.
I can refer to the call takers as "police staff" if you prefer. There was nothing derogatory said, just what was reported at the time as being the version of events.
What would you call the downgrading of a call, if not a decision?

Bigends

5,412 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Mk3Spitfire said:
iDrive said:
Thats low.

Blame "Civilian" Call Takers when you haven't the faintest idea what actually happened.

Those same staff ARE The Police, just not Police Officers.

Likely position is a down-graded response due to previous false alarms, there's not a whole lot of decision making involved - it follows Policy.

Your dig is just as unwelcome.
What are you on about. It's all facts, as released from the organisation themself.
I can refer to the call takers as "police staff" if you prefer. There was nothing derogatory said, just what was reported at the time as being the version of events.
What would you call the downgrading of a call, if not a decision?
I'd have thought an activation at those premises would have been routed via a supervisor before any go./no go decision was made regardless of policy.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Bigends said:
I'd have thought an activation at those premises would have been routed via a supervisor before any go./no go decision was made regardless of policy.
You would like to think so. If not, I imagine it will be from now on.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Bigends said:
I'd have thought an activation at those premises would have been routed via a supervisor before any go./no go decision was made regardless of policy.
You would like to think so. If not, I imagine it will be from now on.

Ilovetwiglets

695 posts

167 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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When I got burgled ten or so years ago the police were next to useless, fingerprints everywhere but they didn't take them as apparently they "weren't clear enough" which he worked out after a quick glance. I told him I noticed a team of young offenders (looked like some kind of community service) cleaning up the pathway that ran next to the house when I left in the morning to which he replied "probably wasn't them" and that was it, he was off.

evilmunkey

1,377 posts

158 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Happy to say they got the bds who did mine, there was a spurt of burglaries in an an area it had never happened before. they were cought on a neighbours cctv and one of the Officers attending saw it and recognized one of em. Was awkward for his mother as we worked together at the time. wasnt her fault the lad was a wrong un . got 3 years.

snoopy25

1,858 posts

119 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Sorry to hear this Brd and hope the OH is able to overcome the issues of personal space being invaded frown Would hate this to happen to me and my family frown

OldGermanHeaps

3,801 posts

177 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Bigends said:
I'd have thought an activation at those premises would have been routed via a supervisor before any go./no go decision was made regardless of policy.
That call was apparently not policed as they had previously had a number of policed false alarms and the alarm system had not been corrected to prevent reoccurrances so as per acpo guidelines it wasn't policed.

Op sorry to hear this and glad you got a good response, a good alarm is peace of mind. Decent hd cctv is a good deterrant and also good for convinience. You can unlock your back gate for deliveries with a decent bespoke install for deliveries etc.

Bigends

5,412 posts

127 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Bigends said:
I'd have thought an activation at those premises would have been routed via a supervisor before any go./no go decision was made regardless of policy.
That call was apparently not policed as they had previously had a number of policed false alarms and the alarm system had not been corrected to prevent reoccurrances so as per acpo guidelines it wasn't policed.

Op sorry to hear this and glad you got a good response, a good alarm is peace of mind. Decent hd cctv is a good deterrant and also good for convinience. You can unlock your back gate for deliveries with a decent bespoke install for deliveries etc.
Be interesting to see whether or not its appropriate for a call taker to sign off a confirmed alarm at a safe deposit building without running past a supervisor first. Not sure our would in relation to similar high value premises

OldGermanHeaps

3,801 posts

177 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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From what I've heard the urn was revoked due to 3 FAs confirmed and policed. No offsite backup or remote monitoring either on the cctv and they took the hard drive so a bit of a mess up. At least with monitored cctv or videofied they could have reported visual verification of the crime in progress and it would have been policed even without the intruder urn.