summoned court for speeding

summoned court for speeding

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LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
The guy who drove the car supplied his details incase my cousin found damage to the car and my cousin has zero points on his licence.

The summons is for speeding not for failing to supply the drivers details, when he goes to court is it as simple as telling the court he returned the drivers details to the police and as he did not hear anything back from them he assumed the police had all the information they required?
Really? He supplied his details in case of damage, but at the same time took it without your cousin's permission. So he walked in after the event and confessed to it?

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
Having already declared that the whole thing is a load of bks, you're not entitled to ask further questions.
I still think it's a load of bks

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
The summons is for speeding not for failing to supply the drivers details, when he goes to court is it as simple as telling the court he returned the drivers details to the police and as he did not hear anything back from them he assumed the police had all the information they required?
No it isn't. Did you not bother to read my earlier post? You're clearly out of your depth and this is not the right place to be asking. If he doesn't want to take the hit your cousin needs advice from someone who knows their stuff and the way magistrates conduct business.

SS2.

14,461 posts

238 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
The guy who drove the car supplied his details incase my cousin found damage to the car and my cousin has zero points on his licence.

The summons is for speeding not for failing to supply the drivers details, when he goes to court is it as simple as telling the court he returned the drivers details to the police and as he did not hear anything back from them he assumed the police had all the information they required?
If he hasn't been summonsed for failing to furnish, then whether the police did or didn't receive a completed s.172 form is largely irrelevant.

If he's been summonsed for speeding (after he had nominated the 'friend'), then there doesn't appear to be any evidence that your cousin was the driver at the time of the alleged offence.

That said, I am not at all convinced that you have your facts straight and, as such, I suspect there could be rather more to it.

Edited by SS2. on Tuesday 14th April 13:45

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
The guy who drove the car supplied his details incase my cousin found damage to the car and my cousin has zero points on his licence.

The summons is for speeding not for failing to supply the drivers details, when he goes to court is it as simple as telling the court he returned the drivers details to the police and as he did not hear anything back from them he assumed the police had all the information they required?
So when he called the police and explained the situation what did they say?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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herewego said:
s2bounce said:
The guy who drove the car supplied his details incase my cousin found damage to the car and my cousin has zero points on his licence.

The summons is for speeding not for failing to supply the drivers details, when he goes to court is it as simple as telling the court he returned the drivers details to the police and as he did not hear anything back from them he assumed the police had all the information they required?
So when he called the police and explained the situation what did they say?
OP indicated they told him to call the court. We've had no information on how that call went, or if it occurred.

SS2.

14,461 posts

238 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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Or even if he's entered a plea.

More holes than a horse trader's mule.

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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garyhun said:
herewego said:
s2bounce said:
The guy who drove the car supplied his details incase my cousin found damage to the car and my cousin has zero points on his licence.

The summons is for speeding not for failing to supply the drivers details, when he goes to court is it as simple as telling the court he returned the drivers details to the police and as he did not hear anything back from them he assumed the police had all the information they required?
So when he called the police and explained the situation what did they say?
OP indicated they told him to call the court. We've had no information on how that call went, or if it occurred.
Sorry I missed that post.
We've had cases on the forum in which people have contacted the CPS at court who have withdrawn the case so maybe this is the way forward.

Sheepshanks

32,715 posts

119 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
...when he goes to court is it as simple as telling the court he returned the drivers details to the police and as he did not hear anything back from them he assumed the police had all the information they required?
Yep. It's that simple. They might even believe him.

BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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Simple, turn up in court and take the actual driver, plead not guilty, explain why (pointing to the actual driver).
Job done.
Bert

Willhire89

1,328 posts

205 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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BertBert said:
Simple, turn up in court and take the actual driver, plead not guilty, explain why (pointing to the actual driver).
Job done.
Bert
Complex though surely - because then it immediately opens up the TWOC angle.


speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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Car is hire car so hire company is the owner. TWOC is a given as the hire company did not include the driver on the agreement. Can the hirer be accused of allowing someone to drive something that isn't his, especially as keys were taken without his knowledge?

s2bounce

Original Poster:

125 posts

137 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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All sorted the police did receive the returned form but had had sent it to court in anyway, the court were informed by the police but never bothered to remove it from their system

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
All sorted the police did receive the returned form but had had sent it to court in anyway, the court were informed by the police but never bothered to remove it from their system
So the cousins friends cousin, or whoever it was, will get done for the speeding but not the driving with no insurance?

s2bounce

Original Poster:

125 posts

137 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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I don't have a clue and I ain't bothered either.

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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Jolly good. All fine and dandy then.

rolleyes

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
I don't have a clue and I ain't bothered either.
Is the right answer wink

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

128 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
I don't have a clue and I ain't bothered either.
Worth while thread then...

oakdale

1,791 posts

202 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
I don't have a clue and I ain't bothered either.
judge I'm sure you're not.

SS2.

14,461 posts

238 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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s2bounce said:
I don't have a clue..
TBH, that's the first thing you've said in this thread that actually makes sense.


Edited by SS2. on Wednesday 15th April 06:21