NIP m25 variable 50. Bugger.

[Devil2575]

richardrsc said:

Devil2575 said:

So how many crashes have resulted in the new enforced variable limits? The post I responded too was 50 mph, not 40. It also works on the premise that someone who is prepared to do 80 mph in a 70 limit then feels the need to stick exactly to the new limit. Maybe you should go back and read my post and you'll see that I didn't say braking quickly.

The manoeuvre is either safe or not, regardless of what is going on in the road ahead.

Maybe the M25 is full of people who don't understand there is a grace period and would rather hammer the brakes and risk a crash rather than safely slow at a sensible rate. Or maybe you and others are desperately making up or exaggerating scenarios to try and prove some point.

I have no idea how many have been caused, but it's not exactly infrequent to see crashes on the outside lane. I suspect they are a combination of factors, this would certainly add to it.

I'm afraid it's completely factually correct to say that your approach is far more likely to cause an accident than mine, however legally I'm sure you're spot on. Just goes to show what a ridiculous system we have.

So, just how frequently have you driven that section recently?

I haven't driven the M25 recently. My comments are all based on the creation of this worse case scenario in an attempt to try and prove danger. I just don't buy it.

When the M25 accidents stats show a spike and prove me wrong let me know.

However it has't ever exactly been rare to see a crash on the M25. I used to drive it regularly, before and after the use of variable limits. It's a circle of lunacy the surrounds the madhouse that it London. If I never have to drive it again it will be too soon.

Factually? That's quite a claim. Slowing just be easing off doesn't illuminate the brake lights so the car behind is less likely to realise straight away that you are slowing and so the gap could get even smaller. Being tail gated on the M25 at high speeds is something I have experienced and I have always found that gentle braking is better than easing off for the reason stated.

[tapereel]

Matthen said:

I'm concerned at the lack of forward observation prevalent on this forum. The gantries are far enough apart and big enough that you can see well enough in advance a limit has gone up or you'll be under it within the grace period. IMO these systems are under utilised - on the M1 especially hard shoulder running should be more common place, even with the 60 limit that comes with it.

And the guy who complained the limits change randomly at night, its to do with the works planned - the limits are set long before any work force arrives. If more people trusted the system, sat at the limit with a 2 second gap between them and the vehicle in front, kept left when not over taking - lane 1 is normally empty whilst 2,3 and 4 are rammed - and looked ahead, journeys round london would be shorter and more relaxing.

You mean driving like you are supposed to!!

You won't get much support for that here.