Trader mis-describing an old car of mine - thoughts?
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Hi all
A few weeks ago I sold our Mini on ebay to a trader. I got over the reserve I set so quite happy on that score.
The car appeared on ebay again today. The guy has obviously put a bit of money into it and marked it up at a good dealer price; so far, good luck to him.
The issue is that he is making a big song and dance in the advert about it being a low mileage example when, in my original advert, I made clear that the mileage on the odometer was not correct and gave him the history file that documented that the mileage was a lot more than was showing.
So, do I;
A) ignore - not my business any more
B) drop him a note pointing out the discrepancy and asking him to change the ad so I don't have to let ebay know
C) flag it to straight to Ebay and local trading standards without letting him know 1st
I'm inclined to go with B but what do others think?
A few weeks ago I sold our Mini on ebay to a trader. I got over the reserve I set so quite happy on that score.
The car appeared on ebay again today. The guy has obviously put a bit of money into it and marked it up at a good dealer price; so far, good luck to him.
The issue is that he is making a big song and dance in the advert about it being a low mileage example when, in my original advert, I made clear that the mileage on the odometer was not correct and gave him the history file that documented that the mileage was a lot more than was showing.
So, do I;
A) ignore - not my business any more
B) drop him a note pointing out the discrepancy and asking him to change the ad so I don't have to let ebay know
C) flag it to straight to Ebay and local trading standards without letting him know 1st
I'm inclined to go with B but what do others think?
ClaphamGT3 said:
Hi all
A few weeks ago I sold our Mini on ebay to a trader. I got over the reserve I set so quite happy on that score.
The car appeared on ebay again today. The guy has obviously put a bit of money into it and marked it up at a good dealer price; so far, good luck to him.
The issue is that he is making a big song and dance in the advert about it being a low mileage example when, in my original advert, I made clear that the mileage on the odometer was not correct and gave him the history file that documented that the mileage was a lot more than was showing.
So, do I;
A) ignore - not my business any more
B) drop him a note pointing out the discrepancy and asking him to change the ad so I don't have to let ebay know
C) flag it to straight to Ebay and local trading standards without letting him know 1st
I'm inclined to go with B but what do others think?
I'd go with B. Wait 5 business days and then go straight to C. If you go to C, make sure you have a record that you explicitly told him that the mileage was wrong - as he could then turn around and put the blame back in your direction.A few weeks ago I sold our Mini on ebay to a trader. I got over the reserve I set so quite happy on that score.
The car appeared on ebay again today. The guy has obviously put a bit of money into it and marked it up at a good dealer price; so far, good luck to him.
The issue is that he is making a big song and dance in the advert about it being a low mileage example when, in my original advert, I made clear that the mileage on the odometer was not correct and gave him the history file that documented that the mileage was a lot more than was showing.
So, do I;
A) ignore - not my business any more
B) drop him a note pointing out the discrepancy and asking him to change the ad so I don't have to let ebay know
C) flag it to straight to Ebay and local trading standards without letting him know 1st
I'm inclined to go with B but what do others think?
PurpleMoonlight said:
Surely it depends on how you define low mileage.
I often see adverts claiming such when the mileage is 80,000 odd.
Surely it depends on the age.I often see adverts claiming such when the mileage is 80,000 odd.
80K on a 2 year old car is high milage.
80K on a 10 year old car is very low milage.
I wouldn't worry about it, I fully expect a second hand car to of been clocked, especially is sold by a small dealer.
Id shop him straight away.
In 2010 I bought a 1993 46k mile 190e in an ebay auction. For a considerable but not daft sum
The car was immaculate and reflected the mileage. It came with a thick folder full of history, all major full dealer services documented in the ad. Every mot from new, etc. It all added up.
A week or so after picking it up I set about going through the history but couldn't find the service book.
Checked the ad description and didn’t find mention of it. Checked the ad photo's and it was definitely in there. the guy had the service intervals written for every year including the first year at something like 3000miles. There was an invoice for every year but not the first.
Contacted seller, no answer, no answer to emails. Managed to track a previous owner through the history and he said it had a clock change at just over a year old at 20k miles and this was all documented in the service book.
Seller contacted back and said he didn’t have the service book and denied the picture contained it.
I drove back to his house, asked why he had the first year service date and mileage without the service book or invoice and why the picture contained the service book.
After I said look, I know the true mileage I still would have bought it at the same price but I want the history, He crumbled, gave me the service book and said he had thrown away all the first year receipts.
The idiot was actually devaluing the car. 46k with incomplete history against 66k with complete history.
The more I think about it the more the deliberate deceit annoys me. Making such a song and dance about the history and low mileage, going to the lengths to make it convincing but failing to cover his tracks. where in realiy 66k was still barely run in for one of these cars and the car was immaculate (read concourse) anyway.
It was an honest car for 16 years before this bellend got hold of it.
In 2010 I bought a 1993 46k mile 190e in an ebay auction. For a considerable but not daft sum
The car was immaculate and reflected the mileage. It came with a thick folder full of history, all major full dealer services documented in the ad. Every mot from new, etc. It all added up.
A week or so after picking it up I set about going through the history but couldn't find the service book.
Checked the ad description and didn’t find mention of it. Checked the ad photo's and it was definitely in there. the guy had the service intervals written for every year including the first year at something like 3000miles. There was an invoice for every year but not the first.
Contacted seller, no answer, no answer to emails. Managed to track a previous owner through the history and he said it had a clock change at just over a year old at 20k miles and this was all documented in the service book.
Seller contacted back and said he didn’t have the service book and denied the picture contained it.
I drove back to his house, asked why he had the first year service date and mileage without the service book or invoice and why the picture contained the service book.
After I said look, I know the true mileage I still would have bought it at the same price but I want the history, He crumbled, gave me the service book and said he had thrown away all the first year receipts.
The idiot was actually devaluing the car. 46k with incomplete history against 66k with complete history.
The more I think about it the more the deliberate deceit annoys me. Making such a song and dance about the history and low mileage, going to the lengths to make it convincing but failing to cover his tracks. where in realiy 66k was still barely run in for one of these cars and the car was immaculate (read concourse) anyway.
It was an honest car for 16 years before this bellend got hold of it.
Edited by 6cylGolf on Tuesday 21st April 15:24
ClaphamGT3 said:
Hi all
A few weeks ago I sold our Mini on ebay to a trader. I got over the reserve I set so quite happy on that score.
The car appeared on ebay again today. The guy has obviously put a bit of money into it and marked it up at a good dealer price; so far, good luck to him.
The issue is that he is making a big song and dance in the advert about it being a low mileage example when, in my original advert, I made clear that the mileage on the odometer was not correct and gave him the history file that documented that the mileage was a lot more than was showing.
So, do I;
A) ignore - not my business any more
B) drop him a note pointing out the discrepancy and asking him to change the ad so I don't have to let ebay know
C) flag it to straight to Ebay and local trading standards without letting him know 1st
I'm inclined to go with B but what do others think?
A) would you want to buy it or have a mate buy the same type of car ? B) would be the honourable thing to do but the new seller is anything but, and c) Ebay more than likely wouldn't do a thing.A few weeks ago I sold our Mini on ebay to a trader. I got over the reserve I set so quite happy on that score.
The car appeared on ebay again today. The guy has obviously put a bit of money into it and marked it up at a good dealer price; so far, good luck to him.
The issue is that he is making a big song and dance in the advert about it being a low mileage example when, in my original advert, I made clear that the mileage on the odometer was not correct and gave him the history file that documented that the mileage was a lot more than was showing.
So, do I;
A) ignore - not my business any more
B) drop him a note pointing out the discrepancy and asking him to change the ad so I don't have to let ebay know
C) flag it to straight to Ebay and local trading standards without letting him know 1st
I'm inclined to go with B but what do others think?
I'd go with B and give him an hour to change it.
d deserves to have a pole stuck somewhere not nice. The guy who bought my first Impreza traded it in when he was done with it. The dealer had it advertised as a special model and marked up accordingly.
I emailed him to give him the correct info but got no reply and he didn't change the advert.
Recently reported a trader on Gumtree trying to mis sell a Legacy but did t hear anything back about that either.
Also when looking for a. Mini for the OH we drove for over an hour to go look at one at a dealers. On test drive the thing was flat as a pancake. Essentially like the supercharger wasn't plumbed in.
Informed dealer and he acknowledged they knew it had a problem but he didn't want to pay to put an I identified problem right.
Kept it advertised as a lovely example and for strong money. Just hoping some poor woman who wanted a blue mini to come along and buy it.
I mentioned that one on here at the time and was told to shussh.
I emailed him to give him the correct info but got no reply and he didn't change the advert.
Recently reported a trader on Gumtree trying to mis sell a Legacy but did t hear anything back about that either.
Also when looking for a. Mini for the OH we drove for over an hour to go look at one at a dealers. On test drive the thing was flat as a pancake. Essentially like the supercharger wasn't plumbed in.
Informed dealer and he acknowledged they knew it had a problem but he didn't want to pay to put an I identified problem right.
Kept it advertised as a lovely example and for strong money. Just hoping some poor woman who wanted a blue mini to come along and buy it.
I mentioned that one on here at the time and was told to shussh.
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