Confused over paper counterpart of licence

[BHML]

The DVLA will abolish paper counterpart of licences in June 2015. I've just read that "If you've only got a paper driving licence (that's licences issued before 1998) you need to keep hold of it. These will remain vaild and shouldn't be destroye".

I got my licence in 1993 but I ALSO have the standard photocard, so I don't JUST have a paper driving licence. Does this mean I need to hang on to both parts post-June 2015?

[talksthetorque]

It's one piece of A4. Will it kill you to keep it?

[Cliftonite]

Then you don't ONLY have a paper licence, do you?

When the time comes, bin it!

HTH.

[agtlaw]

If the paper bit says Counterpart Driving Licence in big letters at the top then after 8th June you may destroy it. If it doesn't say Counterpart Driving Licence then don't destroy it. It's not rocket science.


A counterpart driving licence, yesterday.

[lbc]

If you have a photocard then you don't need the paper part. Simples.

[TooMany2cvs]

BHML said:

I got my licence in 1993 but I ALSO have the standard photocard, so I don't JUST have a paper driving licence.

By "licences issued before 1998", it doesn't mean the date you actually passed the test - it means the licence that you need to rock up to the police station with if you get a producer. And the only licence that'd actually be valid for that is the most recently-issued one. So if you've got a photocard, and still your old pre-photocard licence, that older one only has nostalgia value...

After June, only the photocard part of the current pair (photocard plus A4 counterpart) carries any weight. The counterpart can go in the nostalgia box next to the old paper licence...

[Denis O]

If you're going to be hiring a car abroad it may well be worth keeping the paper part for a while. The hirer will likely not be up to date with our process; Christ, we're not; and could cause problems without both parts that the UK is known for.

[Starfighter]

Denis O said:

If you're going to be hiring a car abroad it may well be worth keeping the paper part for a while. The hirer will likely not be up to date with our process; Christ, we're not; and could cause problems without both parts that the UK is known for.

I have NEVER presented or been asked for the paper counterpart when renting overseas. Photocard and go only. Covered in many other threads.

[RemaL]

Just a question
I'm off in May over to europe touring with a few mates. I know I need to take insurance and V5. Do I need to take the paper counterpart as well as my photo driving licence?

[Bluebarge]

Starfighter said:

I have NEVER presented or been asked for the paper counterpart when renting overseas. Photocard and go only. Covered in many other threads.

I have. It was in Geneva, and the Swiss are a bit anal, but she even asked whether the address was up-to-date. So it can happen.

I should add that Foreign plod will certainly ask to see it if you get stopped/are involved in a prang.

[TooMany2cvs]

RemaL said:

Just a question
I'm off in May over to europe touring with a few mates. I know I need to take insurance and V5. Do I need to take the paper counterpart as well as my photo driving licence?

For the space a sheet of A4 takes up, why wouldn't you?

[Denis O]

Starfighter said:

Denis O said:

If you're going to be hiring a car abroad it may well be worth keeping the paper part for a while. The hirer will likely not be up to date with our process; Christ, we're not; and could cause problems without both parts that the UK is known for.

I have NEVER presented or been asked for the paper counterpart when renting overseas. Photocard and go only. Covered in many other threads.

Good for you. Last hire car I had was in Greece and they wanted both parts. Seems like the Swiss like them as well.

I suspect it's just easier to take the paper bit for all the space it takes up. You'll look a real wally at the airport if they won't let you take the hire car without the paper.

[agtlaw]

Your card is your driving licence. The clue is in the words DRIVING LICENCE at the top of it. After 8.6.15 the counterpart is a redundant piece of paper.

If you have an old style paper driving licence (no card) then you are one of approximately 9 million people with one of those and is valid until January 2033 or your 70th birthday - whichever comes first.

[evilmunkey]

I haven't got the photo-card, just did not get round to sorting it. I have my old paper licence. Some companies request the 2 part licence when applying for driving jobs, Argos being one such company.

[RemaL]

TooMany2cvs said:

RemaL said:

Just a question
I'm off in May over to europe touring with a few mates. I know I need to take insurance and V5. Do I need to take the paper counterpart as well as my photo driving licence?

For the space a sheet of A4 takes up, why wouldn't you?

for the sake of trying to find it a lot.

[TooMany2cvs]

RemaL said:

for the sake of trying to find it a lot.

Ah, sorry. I was forgetting about the likelihood of abysmal filing of important documents.

[Sheepshanks]

RemaL said:

TooMany2cvs said:

RemaL said:

Just a question
I'm off in May over to europe touring with a few mates. I know I need to take insurance and V5. Do I need to take the paper counterpart as well as my photo driving licence?

For the space a sheet of A4 takes up, why wouldn't you?

for the sake of trying to find it a lot.

Print a screen shot of your driver information: https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence . (Need your licence number, NI number and post-code)

There's some suggestion UK hirer's might ask for this if they can't access the DVLA when you're trying to hire a car.