12 yr old daughter hit on head with chunk of wood - Action?
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Perhaps getting a stern b
king from the cops will make him see that violence is not on,and realise the error of his ways, otherwise he will think he got off Scott free,and the next kid may not be so lucky!
The mother struggles with discipline clearly,so an outsider laying down the law might be good for him.
king from the cops will make him see that violence is not on,and realise the error of his ways, otherwise he will think he got off Scott free,and the next kid may not be so lucky! The mother struggles with discipline clearly,so an outsider laying down the law might be good for him.
Got home from work last night to find daughter (12) was playing out with pals and a younger lad through a chunk of wood at her and hit her on the head.
Seems that this action was deliberate, the lad walked off laughing.
This isn't throwing something about - this is assault - a deliberate attempt to hurt cause injury through throwing a chunk of wood. walks off laughing aswell...
not good and not an accident. needs to be dealt with in firm manner....
Seems that this action was deliberate, the lad walked off laughing.
This isn't throwing something about - this is assault - a deliberate attempt to hurt cause injury through throwing a chunk of wood. walks off laughing aswell...
not good and not an accident. needs to be dealt with in firm manner....
Daughter gets hit on head and is feeling dizzy then dad thinks about how he might appear threatening to perpetrator's mother. Just to get himself straight thinks 'I know, the folk on a motoring forum will know what I should do'. Meanwhile daughter still hasn't received any medical attention.
Seems like there are 2 homes social services should be visiting to check kids are being looked after properly.
Get a grip!
Seems like there are 2 homes social services should be visiting to check kids are being looked after properly.
Get a grip!
Greendubber said:
So what should the Police do?
Well, if someone did that to my child I'd like to go and hit them. Very hard. To show what pain is and why they shouldn't be throwing lumps of wood at my child's head. However, that would be frowned upon... So, I'd expect the police to go and explain to the little s**t that throwing lumps of wood at other kids is not acceptable and to put some fear into him to see his actions have consequences.Next time it might be a rock FFS.
His daughter should not of been taken to A&E I wish everyone would stop clogging up A&Es when we have other services to advise and deal with these issues first.
If she is dizzy after 24hrs you should be calling NHS direct on 111 for medical advice on next steps, people go to A&E when often you'll be advised to see your GP in their emergency appointments. Passing out / fainting after the event would be completely different.
If she is dizzy after 24hrs you should be calling NHS direct on 111 for medical advice on next steps, people go to A&E when often you'll be advised to see your GP in their emergency appointments. Passing out / fainting after the event would be completely different.
Yes - needed reporting.
Police and council ASB team are probably already aware of boy (and siblings) already, assuming this wasn't a one-off. Incident adds to the pile that will be evidence for ABCs, ASBIs - even threatened possession if it's social housing. Mum should also get some support as well.
This is your local SNT / council ASB team / social housing ASB officer's bread and butter - fair to say some are more effective than others - housing providers can vary greatly in particular.
Police and council ASB team are probably already aware of boy (and siblings) already, assuming this wasn't a one-off. Incident adds to the pile that will be evidence for ABCs, ASBIs - even threatened possession if it's social housing. Mum should also get some support as well.
This is your local SNT / council ASB team / social housing ASB officer's bread and butter - fair to say some are more effective than others - housing providers can vary greatly in particular.
killerferret666 said:
His daughter should not of been taken to A&E I wish everyone would stop clogging up A&Es when we have other services to advise and deal with these issues first.
If she is dizzy after 24hrs you should be calling NHS direct on 111 for medical advice on next steps, people go to A&E when often you'll be advised to see your GP in their emergency appointments. Passing out / fainting after the event would be completely different.
I would say that when it comes to children, it's far better to err on the side of caution and go to A&E just in case, rather than sit around waiting for a doctors emergency appointment to be available the next day day!If she is dizzy after 24hrs you should be calling NHS direct on 111 for medical advice on next steps, people go to A&E when often you'll be advised to see your GP in their emergency appointments. Passing out / fainting after the event would be completely different.
How do you know that the child hasn't suffered an epidural hematoma from the impact to the head?
Have a read of this (From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natasha_Richardson ):
"On 16 March 2009, Richardson sustained a head injury when she fell while taking a beginner skiing lesson at the Mont Tremblant Resort in Quebec, Canada about 80 miles (130 km) from Montreal.
The injury was followed by a lucid interval, when Richardson seemed to be fine and was able to talk and act normally. Paramedics and an ambulance which initially responded to the accident were told they were not needed and left.
Refusing medical attention twice, she returned to her hotel room and about three hours later was taken to a local hospital in Sainte-Agathe-des-Monts after complaining of a headache.
She was transferred from there by ambulance to Hôpital du Sacré-Cœur, Montreal, in critical condition and was admitted about seven hours after the fall.
The following day she was flown to Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, where she died on 18 March at the age of 45.
An autopsy conducted by the New York City Medical Examiners Office on 19 March revealed the cause of death was an "epidural hematoma due to blunt impact to the head", and her death was ruled an accident."
She never passed out or fainted after the event!
She thought she was okay but had a headache later and it ended up costing her her life!
Personally speaking, I'd rather someone with a head injury was in A&E than a lot of the people who go there with the most ridiculous problems such as (From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/576615.stm ):
"The patient who waited hours to see a doctor because the new shoes he had been given for Christmas were giving him blisters."
or:
"We had a chap the other day who phoned an ambulance because he cut himself shaving. When he got to the hospital he wasn't even bleeding."
How about these? (From: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2058465/... ):
"A woman who couldn't remove her false nails and another who had paint stuck in her hair"
"One woman wanted someone to cut her toenails because she could not get a chiropody appointment."
"One mother took her child to A&E because they had stepped in dog poo and she wanted staff to clean it off while another woman called 999 because she had diarrhoea."
"A further woman rushed to the department saying her hand had turned blue - it turned out to be dye from her jeans."
"A man also dialled 999 because he was suffering from constipation, while another went to A&E because he had a hangover."
These are the people who should stop clogging up A&E, not concerned parents who's child has a head injury!
If there's one lesson to be learnt from Natasha Richardson's case: When it comes to head injuries - It's better to be safe than sorry! (Or worse: DEAD!)
Gees we have become a namby pamby society.
'Child accidentally injured while playing with another child.
Parents call police.'
I was hit in the mouth with a stone as a child, my father took me to the hospital to have it stitched up. Job done. It would never have entered his mind to have called the police.
Back then people just accepted this sort of incident as part of children growing up.
'Child accidentally injured while playing with another child.
Parents call police.'
I was hit in the mouth with a stone as a child, my father took me to the hospital to have it stitched up. Job done. It would never have entered his mind to have called the police.
Back then people just accepted this sort of incident as part of children growing up.
If my parents had brought the police round every time I'd been in a scrap when I was growing up, hurt intentionally / accidentally by siblings and pals I think they'd have been round every other day. This was in the 70s and 80s though, I kind of think we're less tolerant of this nowadays.
In the case of poor Natasha Richardson. I wonder what would have happened if she had rocked up at her local A&E straight after such an incident.
Not seen for hours and then told to go home and watch out for dizziness and headaches, which in her case would have been too late.
They don't tend to do MRI scans on people that appear ok, well not at my local hospital anyway.
Not seen for hours and then told to go home and watch out for dizziness and headaches, which in her case would have been too late.
They don't tend to do MRI scans on people that appear ok, well not at my local hospital anyway.
Octoposse said:
Yes - needed reporting.
Police and council ASB team are probably already aware of boy (and siblings) already, assuming this wasn't a one-off. Incident adds to the pile that will be evidence for ABCs, ASBIs - even threatened possession if it's social housing. Mum should also get some support as well.
This is your local SNT / council ASB team / social housing ASB officer's bread and butter - fair to say some are more effective than others - housing providers can vary greatly in particular.
exactly with regard to ASB Police and council ASB team are probably already aware of boy (and siblings) already, assuming this wasn't a one-off. Incident adds to the pile that will be evidence for ABCs, ASBIs - even threatened possession if it's social housing. Mum should also get some support as well.
This is your local SNT / council ASB team / social housing ASB officer's bread and butter - fair to say some are more effective than others - housing providers can vary greatly in particular.
most advice ref head injuries that is based on no assessment / remote assessment will over-triage towards attending MIU / A+E
Maybe I'm misinterpreting the OP, but I read it as there was no suggestion of Police involvement until the perpetrator's mother requested it?
She's obviously struggling with a pack of 5 kids (as most single parents would, I imagine), perhaps she's hoping that plod giving the lad a talking to will have a positive effect on his behaviour. It's the sort of thing PCSO's can deal with, I'd only expect real plod to come out if they are having a quiet shift. It's also worth reporting in case he has other similar stuff on him (or will have in the future).
She's obviously struggling with a pack of 5 kids (as most single parents would, I imagine), perhaps she's hoping that plod giving the lad a talking to will have a positive effect on his behaviour. It's the sort of thing PCSO's can deal with, I'd only expect real plod to come out if they are having a quiet shift. It's also worth reporting in case he has other similar stuff on him (or will have in the future).
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