Confiscated driving licence in france

[GC8]

vonhosen said:

Beware making false declarations to obtain a licence.

A typically obtuse reply.

[Geekman]

Just call the DVLA, tell them you've lost it and they'll send you a new one. No need to tell your insurance company either.

I was caught at 173KPH in a 110 last week - they made me pay €90 and sent me on my way.

[Mr E]

peterperkins said:

If a French car hooned past you on the A1 at the same speed 110mph+ in this example, would you be frothing at the mouth demanding instant justice or cheering them on?

There's specs enforced 40 limit on a dual carrage way that I've driven through 3 times in the last couple of days.

I was passed be pretty much every truck on a foreign plate sitting on their limiters.

I cared not a jot.

[Hugo a Gogo]

vonhosen said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

if you don't live in France, you should get it back at the soonest opportunity

they have no right to stop you driving in Belgium, Germany, Netherlands etc (where you need the licence with you whenever you drive), never mind in the UK

The act of them seizing it in France doesn't in itself prohibit you driving in other countries (inc the UK), you are not banned in those countries The temp ban applies to France only. Of course if you can't comply with a host countries rules (for whatever reason) then you can't legally drive in that country.


Being banned in the UK on a UK licence means you can't drive (by virtue of the UK licence) in any country.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 25th April 19:30

What's your point? My point is that they are effectively stopping you driving anywhere else

[agtlaw]

vonhosen said:

The act of them seizing it in France doesn't in itself prohibit you driving in other countries (inc the UK), you are not banned in those countries The temp ban applies to France only.

Are you sure about that? Many countries in Europe have reciprocal agreements with other states and a very quick google search suggests a driver banned in France would have a problem driving in Switzerland and Spain. Although, I haven't checked to be sure.

[vonhosen]

Hugo a Gogo said:

vonhosen said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

if you don't live in France, you should get it back at the soonest opportunity

they have no right to stop you driving in Belgium, Germany, Netherlands etc (where you need the licence with you whenever you drive), never mind in the UK

The act of them seizing it in France doesn't in itself prohibit you driving in other countries (inc the UK), you are not banned in those countries The temp ban applies to France only. Of course if you can't comply with a host countries rules (for whatever reason) then you can't legally drive in that country.


Being banned in the UK on a UK licence means you can't drive (by virtue of the UK licence) in any country.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 25th April 19:30

What's your point? My point is that they are effectively stopping you driving anywhere else

They aren't effectively stopping you, you have effectively stopped you.
In their country their rules apply. You broke their rules so you are responsible for the consequences of that, not them.If their rules are seizure of licence then that's the rules & something you should have considered before breaking them.

[TheLordJohn]

KM/H

[vonhosen]

agtlaw said:

vonhosen said:

The act of them seizing it in France doesn't in itself prohibit you driving in other countries (inc the UK), you are not banned in those countries The temp ban applies to France only.

Are you sure about that? Many countries in Europe have reciprocal agreements with other states and a very quick google search suggests a driver banned in France would have a problem driving in Switzerland and Spain. Although, I haven't checked to be sure.

Sorry yes, I shouldn't have put France 'only' (Switzerland does have a reciprocal agreement with France, I'm not sure about Spain I wasn't aware of that), a ban in France certainly isn't universal though & won't apply in the vast majority of countries in Europe.

[R1 Indy]

Perhaps the answer would be to have a "hidden" spare license

[Dammit]

I just show them my licence with a picture Our Sainted Nigel on it, this has the effect of making all forrins back away tugging their forelock and allowing me to recommence my journey, making sure to break all applicable road laws as I go.

[johnxjsc1985]

R1 Indy said:

Perhaps the answer would be to have a "hidden" spare license

you Sir are a genius.

[Hugo a Gogo]

vonhosen said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

vonhosen said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

if you don't live in France, you should get it back at the soonest opportunity

they have no right to stop you driving in Belgium, Germany, Netherlands etc (where you need the licence with you whenever you drive), never mind in the UK

The act of them seizing it in France doesn't in itself prohibit you driving in other countries (inc the UK), you are not banned in those countries The temp ban applies to France only. Of course if you can't comply with a host countries rules (for whatever reason) then you can't legally drive in that country.


Being banned in the UK on a UK licence means you can't drive (by virtue of the UK licence) in any country.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 25th April 19:30

What's your point? My point is that they are effectively stopping you driving anywhere else

They aren't effectively stopping you, you have effectively stopped you.
In their country their rules apply. You broke their rules so you are responsible for the consequences of that, not them.If their rules are seizure of licence then that's the rules & something you should have considered before breaking them.

so that was what you meant in the first post?

'you broke the rules' except for that whole 'innocent until proven guilty' nonsense

[vonhosen]

Hugo a Gogo said:

vonhosen said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

vonhosen said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

if you don't live in France, you should get it back at the soonest opportunity

they have no right to stop you driving in Belgium, Germany, Netherlands etc (where you need the licence with you whenever you drive), never mind in the UK

The act of them seizing it in France doesn't in itself prohibit you driving in other countries (inc the UK), you are not banned in those countries The temp ban applies to France only. Of course if you can't comply with a host countries rules (for whatever reason) then you can't legally drive in that country.


Being banned in the UK on a UK licence means you can't drive (by virtue of the UK licence) in any country.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 25th April 19:30

What's your point? My point is that they are effectively stopping you driving anywhere else

They aren't effectively stopping you, you have effectively stopped you.
In their country their rules apply. You broke their rules so you are responsible for the consequences of that, not them.If their rules are seizure of licence then that's the rules & something you should have considered before breaking them.

so that was what you meant in the first post?

'you broke the rules' except for that whole 'innocent until proven guilty' nonsense

You haven't been found guilty at that point, but there's sufficient for that step in their legal process though. You have a court case pending to determine guilt or not & their rules allow (in some circumstances) a ban from driving & seizure of licence pending trial. That appears to be their rules.
Just as in our country our rules allow, in certain circumstances, for you to be held in Police station for a period of time or even held in prison on remand whilst you are awaiting trial. That's despite you not, at that stage, having been convicted of any offence but there being sufficient to move to that position in our legal process.

Edited by vonhosen on Sunday 26th April 16:53

[Dog Star]

R1 Indy said:

Perhaps the answer would be to have a "hidden" spare license

That's what the OH has now got.

I got exactly the same as the OP - same speed, same fine but a two month ban.

My licence never came back.

I waited til the French ban had expired before applying for a replacement licence because there's (or there was) a question on the D1 form "are you CURRENTLY disqualified in another EU country". The operative word being "currently". I answered "no" in complete honesty.

[Hooli]

peterperkins said:

It never ceases to amaze me that Brits are happy to merrily speed on French roads. Basically taking the pizz.

If a French car hooned past you on the A1 at the same speed 110mph+ in this example, would you be frothing at the mouth demanding instant justice or cheering them on?

I'd say good on them using the roads at the speeds they are designed to enable & yet we're not allowed to do.

[CGJJ]

Oh my.