Being Ejected from a Night club
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I wouldn't say so. I was once chucked out a club but i was drunk and accepted it there and then. The bouncer was great with me. You do of course get the scummy ones who just want a fight which i am just not interested in.
If you refuse they have the right to remove you and if the police did happen to be involved they would just ask you to move on. Of course if you gave them cheek etc you would be lifted and cautioned for it.
If you refuse they have the right to remove you and if the police did happen to be involved they would just ask you to move on. Of course if you gave them cheek etc you would be lifted and cautioned for it.
Ok thanks for your help.
My refusal to leave was non violent, with a legitimate reason, but I wont go into it on a public forum.
I sought the advice of the police the day after the incident to ask if they considered my injuries to be "acceptable force" to which they said it was not, and that I should report the individuals involved for assault.
My refusal to leave was non violent, with a legitimate reason, but I wont go into it on a public forum.
I sought the advice of the police the day after the incident to ask if they considered my injuries to be "acceptable force" to which they said it was not, and that I should report the individuals involved for assault.
There is a criminal offence associated with refusal to leave licensed premises :
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2005/16/section/...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2005/16/section/...
Pasteurised said:
Just wondering if someone can tell me if is a criminal offence to refuse to leave a night club when asked to by "Security Staff"
In Scotland if that changes things.
Thanks
Possibly - Licensing (Scotland) Act 2005 S116. In Scotland if that changes things.
Thanks
Depending on the situation, it may not be a criminal offence. But why bother? Your best-case outcome is that you don't get done. The worst case includes handcuffs and/or ambulance.
Don't know your circumstances but as an ex doorman I would say you are much better off just leaving rather than trying to make a point or have a discussion. Don't make a fuss, just down you pint, go somewhere else and enjoy the rest of your night.
Make a do about it an you likely to be leaving very shortly anyway and will spend the next few days pissed off about what has happened.
If you have been injured, you of course can make a complaint but it's pretty doubtful it will go anywhere unless you have a very strong case.
Make a do about it an you likely to be leaving very shortly anyway and will spend the next few days pissed off about what has happened.
If you have been injured, you of course can make a complaint but it's pretty doubtful it will go anywhere unless you have a very strong case.
Rick101 said:
Don't know your circumstances but as an ex doorman I would say you are much better off just leaving rather than trying to make a point or have a discussion. Don't make a fuss, just down you pint, go somewhere else and enjoy the rest of your night.
Make a do about it an you likely to be leaving very shortly anyway and will spend the next few days pissed off about what has happened.
What he said ^^^.Make a do about it an you likely to be leaving very shortly anyway and will spend the next few days pissed off about what has happened.
If "they" want you to leave and you refuse they will remove you by force. They're not going to enter into any lengthy verbal debate.
Everybody who doesn't want to be ejected believes that "they" are in the right. It's a bit of a Catch-22.
Pasteurised said:
Ok thanks for your help.
My refusal to leave was non violent, with a legitimate reason, but I wont go into it on a public forum.
I sought the advice of the police the day after the incident to ask if they considered my injuries to be "acceptable force" to which they said it was not, and that I should report the individuals involved for assault.
If you were non violent then why was any force used against you?My refusal to leave was non violent, with a legitimate reason, but I wont go into it on a public forum.
I sought the advice of the police the day after the incident to ask if they considered my injuries to be "acceptable force" to which they said it was not, and that I should report the individuals involved for assault.
Surely if as you were non violent they'd just escort you to the door whilst holding a arm and job done?
egor110 said:
If you were non violent then why was any force used against you?
Surely if as you were non violent they'd just escort you to the door whilst holding a arm and job done?
Surely if as you were non violent they'd just escort you to the door whilst holding a arm and job done?
We only ever used force when it was needed, people used to sober up the next day and complain to the Police who would then view the CCTV and side with us.
The OP may have come across a bad egg but I don't know any that would risk losing their licence. I suspect there is more to this than the OP is telling us.
anonymous said:
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Exactly, the poster said he was non violent but if they ask you to leave and try and just guide you out, you then dig your heels in so you've just escalated the force needed to remove you , then they have to hold a arm and push/pull you towards the door .Non violent doesn't just equate well i didn't try and hit the bouncer so i was non violent.
I have no particular advice to give to the OP but coming from a small town, 'when I was a lad' a lot of the bouncers were just in it to give people a hiding. Seen some people get a real hiding over the years, for being a bit drunk and not much more. In cities they seem to be a bit more professional and will just usher folk out from what I've seen.
I'm not sure on the legalities but no doubt they'll turn around and say you were inhiberated with sober bouncers buddies to back up 'their' story. Just easier to comply. Happened to a friends brother who got a good hiding from a bouncer and went to court etc but the bouncer wasn't charged.
I'm not sure on the legalities but no doubt they'll turn around and say you were inhiberated with sober bouncers buddies to back up 'their' story. Just easier to comply. Happened to a friends brother who got a good hiding from a bouncer and went to court etc but the bouncer wasn't charged.
a311 said:
I have no particular advice to give to the OP but coming from a small town, 'when I was a lad' a lot of the bouncers were just in it to give people a hiding. Seen some people get a real hiding over the years, for being a bit drunk and not much more. In cities they seem to be a bit more professional and will just usher folk out from what I've seen.
I'm not sure on the legalities but no doubt they'll turn around and say you were inhiberated with sober bouncers buddies to back up 'their' story. Just easier to comply. Happened to a friends brother who got a good hiding from a bouncer and went to court etc but the bouncer wasn't charged.
It's not in the owners interests to give customers a hiding. From my experience its far far more common for punters who've had a few to want to play the hard man. Most decent clubs tend to have CCTV to protect door staff as much as anything else.I'm not sure on the legalities but no doubt they'll turn around and say you were inhiberated with sober bouncers buddies to back up 'their' story. Just easier to comply. Happened to a friends brother who got a good hiding from a bouncer and went to court etc but the bouncer wasn't charged.
Countdown said:
It's not in the owners interests to give customers a hiding. From my experience its far far more common for punters who've had a few to want to play the hard man. Most decent clubs tend to have CCTV to protect door staff as much as anything else.
I'm not disagreeing, and it's no doubt the case in cities-who's going to want to go to a club whose door staff kick the st out of? Just saying it was common place in my home town, there was only really one night club.a311 said:
I have no particular advice to give to the OP but coming from a small town, 'when I was a lad' a lot of the bouncers were just in it to give people a hiding. Seen some people get a real hiding over the years, for being a bit drunk and not much more. In cities they seem to be a bit more professional and will just usher folk out from what I've seen.
I'm not sure on the legalities but no doubt they'll turn around and say you were inhiberated with sober bouncers buddies to back up 'their' story. Just easier to comply. Happened to a friends brother who got a good hiding from a bouncer and went to court etc but the bouncer wasn't charged.
How long ago was that though ? 80's 90's?I'm not sure on the legalities but no doubt they'll turn around and say you were inhiberated with sober bouncers buddies to back up 'their' story. Just easier to comply. Happened to a friends brother who got a good hiding from a bouncer and went to court etc but the bouncer wasn't charged.
In that era i lived in a town near to a marine base the bouncers then had half a pool cue filled with lead , that sort of thing just doesn't seem to go on anymore.
egor110 said:
How long ago was that though ? 80's 90's?
In that era i lived in a town near to a marine base the bouncers then had half a pool cue filled with lead , that sort of thing just doesn't seem to go on anymore.
90's and early 00's I don't go out boozing too much anymore and said club is now shut. In that era i lived in a town near to a marine base the bouncers then had half a pool cue filled with lead , that sort of thing just doesn't seem to go on anymore.
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