Shooting dog on farmland

[rouge59]

Disastrous said:

Can you tell us more about these dwelly nebulous 'extreme sanctions' you speak of?

I'll be happy to, but please let me remove my tongue from my cheek first.

[mattmurdock]

rouge59 said:

I frequently walk my Patterdale off the lead through fields with sheep & cows in & he stays by my side as I tell him to, but please don't let this fact stop you making ridiculous assumptions about me or my mutt.

As you appear to be in rather dim I'll spell it out for you once more; my dog is very well trained so would give no one reason to harm him, therefore if anyone did it would be a malicious, unjustified act & that person would suffer for it.

Capiche?

That I understand, however it in no way resembles your first post, in which you intimated that your highly trained dogs might attack a person (and if they did and were killed they would have it coming and you would be OK about it) but if they did anything else and were harmed you would persecute the person who harmed them for the rest of your life.

If you can't see how that differs from your post above, and therefore may have caused a few people to respond incredulously, then maybe you need to go to Specsavers.

[rouge59]

mattmurdock said:

That I understand, however it in no way resembles your first post, in which you intimated that your highly trained dogs might attack a person (and if they did and were killed they would have it coming and you would be OK about it) but if they did anything else and were harmed you would persecute the person who harmed them for the rest of your life.

If you can't see how that differs from your post above, and therefore may have caused a few people to respond incredulously, then maybe you need to go to Specsavers.

I intimated nothing of the sort, you buffoon.

"I have a Patterdale & whilst they are challenging dogs to train, mine would never stray or attack anything without my say so, so the OP is obviously guilty of failing to control his dog & must accept the consequences.

Having said that, apart from if they'd attacked a person, anyone killing either of my dogs would regret it for the rest of their lives."


For the record, my sweet little doggy has never attacked or killed anything other than the odd rat, although he did once jump on a swan's back because he thought it wanted to play with him.

[FrankAbagnale]

Swans have been known to kill dogs.

[Spangles]

FrankAbagnale said:

Swans have been known to kill dogs.

Or at least break their arms.

[DonkeyApple]

FrankAbagnale said:

Swans have been known to kill dogs.

And risk extreme sanction? I don't think so.

[rouge59]

FrankAbagnale said:

Swans have been known to kill dogs.

I've heard that, which is why I killed it with my shotgun & popped it in the freezer.

Christmas dinner was epic that year.

[mattmurdock]

rouge59 said:

Having said that, apart from if they'd attacked a person, anyone killing either of my dogs would regret it for the rest of their lives."

OK oh wise master in reading comprehension, explain in words of one syllable how you actually intended the above sentence to read.

Either the dogs are too well trained to attack people, in which case the first half of the sentence is redundant, or the implication is they would be at fault for attacking a person but not at fault for attacking anything else.

You've since clarified they are too well trained to attack anything, but on the strength of the sentence above you were a bit out of order criticising the initial responses.

[KrazyIvan]

rouge59 said:

some guff

Keep it up, you are comedy gold.

[eldar]

This is someone I know. Livestock attacks are relatively common by UK standards in my locality. Shooting the dogs is the last resort, mostly the farmer has a good idea who the owner is, so a deal is usually done and the dog mostly survives. The Police aren't reluctant to prosecute either farmers or dog owners if sense doesn't prevail.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/runaway-dog-leav...

[Fort Jefferson]

rouge59 said:

Having said that, apart from if they'd attacked a person, anyone killing either of my dogs would regret it for the rest of their lives."

Here we go, another Tony Soprano wannabe.

[eldar]

rouge59 said:

I've heard that, which is why I killed it with my shotgun & popped it in the freezer.

Christmas dinner was epic that year.

You ate your dog?

[Andehh]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Baryonyx said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

I have no idea of the legalities, being a cat owning city dweller, but if it's revenge you're after, the local press, twitter and facebook love a good dog murdering story.

There will be lots of animal lovers locally who will be furious, even if he was within his rights, and life could become quite unpleasant for him if you advertise what has happened.

I'm not even saying that's the right thing to do, but it's a route that's open to you should you choose it.

What a vile suggestion, that even if the farmer was within his rights, the OP should try to instigate a feeding frenzy through the media to get some comeuppance? I am quite disgusted that you would even endorse such a cowardly course of action.

And where did I endorse it?

You endorsed recruiting others to make the farmers life as difficult as possible for something he is not at fault for. No need for that.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

rouge59 said:

I frequently walk my Patterdale off the lead through fields with sheep & cows in & he stays by my side as I tell him to, but please don't let this fact stop you making ridiculous assumptions about me or my mutt.

sadly it is people like you who give dog owners a bad name among farmer's, I don't care how well trained "you think" your dogs are they should always be on lead around livestock of any kind ( unless they are working dogs ).

OP Truly sorry to hear of your loss, but if your dog had a history of worrying the farmers livestock then you should have taken more care to ensure it didn't happen again. ( being a dog owner/animal lover ) I hate to say it but you carry as much blame for your loss as does the farmer.

[73mark]

Fort Jefferson said:

Here we go, another Tony Soprano wannabe.

Not a massive heart attack and death.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Andehh said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Baryonyx said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

I have no idea of the legalities, being a cat owning city dweller, but if it's revenge you're after, the local press, twitter and facebook love a good dog murdering story.

There will be lots of animal lovers locally who will be furious, even if he was within his rights, and life could become quite unpleasant for him if you advertise what has happened.

I'm not even saying that's the right thing to do, but it's a route that's open to you should you choose it.

What a vile suggestion, that even if the farmer was within his rights, the OP should try to instigate a feeding frenzy through the media to get some comeuppance? I am quite disgusted that you would even endorse such a cowardly course of action.

And where did I endorse it?

You endorsed recruiting others to make the farmers life as difficult as possible for something he is not at fault for. No need for that.

Did I? Where?

[Jasandjules]

Hugo a Gogo said:

being loose and not under control in the field is enough reason in the law to shoot it

which direction it's facing at the time is irrelevant

Can you back that up with law please. My recollection is fairly clear (but may well be utterly wrong) that there must be immediate harm to the livestock. And I am thinking of a gamekeeper who was convicted for shooting a GSD or similar that was in the field near the sheep but moving away from them.

[wolf1]

Who put 50p in the dhead?

[Countdown]

eldar said:

rouge59 said:

I've heard that, which is why I killed it with my shotgun & popped it in the freezer.

Christmas dinner was epic that year.

You ate your dog?

And why call your dog Epic?

[Mave]

rouge59 said:

Having said that, apart from if they'd attacked a person, anyone killing either of my dogs would regret it for the rest of their lives."

So if a farmer shot one of your dogs while they were midway through dismembering his flock of sheep, you would make him "regret it for the rest of his life?"