Shooting dog on farmland

[bobtail4x4]

so its happened before?

not suprised it was shot.

[MYOB]

The OP has already alluded to the dog being heavy, thus it sound like a big dog for sure!

I'm in agreement that the farmer was entitled to shoot the dog, and would have taken no joy for doing so but his priority and passion is his livestock. Farmers will do anything to protect their livestock and will do so by any legal means, which include shooting uncontrollable animals such as foxes, dogs, badgers and so on.

[01samuelr]

superlightr said:

So what dog was it? What animals was it worrying?

The breed was a patterdale terrier and the livestock were sheep

[Durzel]

01samuelr said:

I have lived at the property for 24 years and my grandfather was a farmer so completely understand the need to protect ones source of income.

As i have said previously. If the actions taken by the farmer were 100% legal then I have no grievance with the farmer, and take full responsibility of the actions that my dog had on his livelihood and have done in the past by covering the vetinary fees and compensating the farmer for the loss of his stock.

All i wanted, was to make sure that what was done was 10/10 legal, which it seems that it is. If it wasn't then I like every other person would want compensation for the unnecessary loss of a family pet

You sound like you've got a level head about it at any rate, fair play.

[MYOB]

01samuelr said:

If it wasn't then I like every other person would want compensation for the unnecessary loss of a family pet

No chance of this happening. The courts will almost in all cases side with the farmer.

[ATG]

01samuelr said:

This is why I didn't post it in the pets section. My dog is dead, nothing i do will change that. If what the farmer has done is 100% legal and by the book then I can accept that and will hold no grudge on him. But if it was not 100% to the law then I will make his life as awkward as possible and thats why i started this thread

Grow up

[Butter Face]

Terrible shame OP but I think you're on a hiding to nothing.

Unless you had actually witnessed it (or someone else did) then trying to say any different to the farmers story is your word against his.

If the police have bee round, check his guns and licenses and left him as is then I would say he's done nothing wrong.

Live and learn I suppose.

[DocJock]

Sorry for the loss of your dog OP.

As it was a repeat offender this outcome seems like it was inevitable I'm afraid.

Time to take one on the chin I think. Going to social media with this is a bad idea IMO. Irrespective of the legal minutiea it would appear vindictive when all the farmer was doing was protecting his livestock.

[ATG]

R8Steve said:

If someone killed your dog you would take them a bottle of scotch? Wow.

If I'd put someone in the position where they had to shoot a dog, I certainly would be apologising to them. How would you feel if you'd knowingly had to shoot someone's pet then go and tell them?

[btcc123]

01samuelr said:

I have lived at the property for 24 years and my grandfather was a farmer so completely understand the need to protect ones source of income.

As i have said previously. If the actions taken by the farmer were 100% legal then I have no grievance with the farmer, and take full responsibility of the actions that my dog had on his livelihood and have done in the past by covering the vetinary fees and compensating the farmer for the loss of his stock.

All i wanted, was to make sure that what was done was 10/10 legal, which it seems that it is. If it wasn't then I like every other person would want compensation for the unnecessary loss of a family pet

So you have admitted that your dog has killed the farmers livestock before.I wonder how many times.

If I was the farmer I would be fed up with your dog killing my animals and you giving me some money and thinking everything is alright.

The farmer is legally 100% correct in his actions shooting your dog.It looks to me that you are the one responsible for your dogs death by not looking after it properly.

[R8Steve]

ATG said:

R8Steve said:

If someone killed your dog you would take them a bottle of scotch? Wow.

If I'd put someone in the position where they had to shoot a dog, I certainly would be apologising to them. How would you feel if you'd knowingly had to shoot someone's pet then go and tell them?

I think it should be the other way around personally but then again i'm not a farmer so i'm sure his point of view would be different. I certainly wouldn't be taking them a bottle of scotch for killing my dog though.

[01samuelr]

btcc123 said:

So you have admitted that your dog has killed the farmers livestock before.I wonder how many times.

If I was the farmer I would be fed up with your dog killing my animals and you giving me some money and thinking everything is alright.

The farmer is legally 100% correct in his actions shooting your dog.It looks to me that you are the one responsible for your dogs death by not looking after it properly.

One sheep had a fractured leg. No evidence that it was my dog that did it but but I payed the vet fees to keep thing amicable between us as we have been neighbours for 24 years. For saying that i do not look after my dogs properly you can fk right off. Im no city boy that thinks my dogs can do what they like. Unfortunately the dog escaped of its tether without us realising. My other 2 spaniels are completely obedient and have never left the boundries of my property.

[heebeegeetee]

01samuelr said:

I have lived at the property for 24 years and my grandfather was a farmer so completely understand the need to protect ones source of income.

As i have said previously. If the actions taken by the farmer were 100% legal then I have no grievance with the farmer, and take full responsibility of the actions that my dog had on his livelihood and have done in the past by covering the vetinary fees and compensating the farmer for the loss of his stock.

All i wanted, was to make sure that what was done was 10/10 legal, which it seems that it is. If it wasn't then I like every other person would want compensation for the unnecessary loss of a family pet

I'm genuinely sorry for your loss but -

Should you not be worrying more about the legality of your actions? You've placed the farmer in an impossible situation and I'm sure nobody likes shooting dogs.

Should you not be checking to see whether everything you did was 100% correct, and if not, should you not automatically be seeking to compensate the farmer for the distress and anger he would have suffered by being placed in a situation of having to defend his stock by shooting a dog.

I'm sure he didn't ask to be placed in that position, and I'm sure for him it's made worse by knowing it's a neighbour's dog that is doing the worrying and which he has to shoot.

[01samuelr]

heebeegeetee said:

I'm genuinely sorry for your loss but -

Should you not be worrying more about the legality of your actions? You've placed the farmer in an impossible situation and I'm sure nobody likes shooting dogs.

Should you not be checking to see whether everything you did was 100% correct, and if not, should you not automatically be seeking to compensate the farmer for the distress and anger he would have suffered by being placed in a situation of having to defend his stock by shooting a dog.

I'm sure he didn't ask to be placed in that position, and I'm sure for him it's made worse by knowing it's a neighbour's dog that is doing the worrying and which he has to shoot.

Im sure that he took no pleasure in shooting my dog. I also know what my responsibilitys are to compensate him as unfortunately we have been there before

[ATG]

R8Steve said:

I think it should be the other way around personally but then again i'm not a farmer so i'm sure his point of view would be different. I certainly wouldn't be taking them a bottle of scotch for killing my dog though.

I don't think it requires much imagination to put yourself in the position of the farmer and to recognise that the dog owner is entirely responsible for what has happened and owes the farmer an apology, not the other way around.

[Hugo a Gogo]

it's sad, but he was within his rights, protecting his livelihood

the dog is loose in the field, it can turn and run in circles at any point, jump over a wall and come back in 5 minutes or an hour

we lost our two dogs in the same way when I was a kid, the smaller one was just following the big one and I don't believe he was chasing sheep, but they were both shot

[superlightr]

01samuelr said:

Im sure that he took no pleasure in shooting my dog. I also know what my responsibilitys are to compensate him as unfortunately we have been there before

perhaps ask the farmer to post on PH?

[Ex Boy Racer]

Well, I'll wade in here. I have a dog, and if anyone hurt him I'd be be very pissed off with them. You must be gutted and I really feel sorry for you.
It's a crap situation, but it's happened and there's no going back.
Right now, hard as it is, I'd consider the future. Living next door to someone with a terrible atmosphere of hostility will simply worsen the situation and keep the wound open. Get past it, suck it in and move on is the most sensible advice

[CrutyRammers]

CarAbuser said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

I have no idea of the legalities, being a cat owning city dweller, but if it's revenge you're after, the local press, twitter and facebook love a good dog murdering story.

There will be lots of animal lovers locally who will be furious, even if he was within his rights, and life could become quite unpleasant for him if you advertise what has happened.

I'm not even saying that's the right thing to do, but it's a route that's open to you should you choose it.

What a cowardly approach. Man shoots your dog so you go home and post nasty things about him on the internet in the hope that other people will do cowardly things on your behalf?

Agree, it's a despicable suggestion.

[R8Steve]

ATG said:

R8Steve said:

I think it should be the other way around personally but then again i'm not a farmer so i'm sure his point of view would be different. I certainly wouldn't be taking them a bottle of scotch for killing my dog though.

I don't think it requires much imagination to put yourself in the position of the farmer and to recognise that the dog owner is entirely responsible for what has happened and owes the farmer an apology, not the other way around.

Shooting someone elses dog vs your own dog being shot - i know what one would feel worse regardless of circumstance.