Caught Speeding Advice Needed

Caught Speeding Advice Needed

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schmalex

13,616 posts

207 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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No. I turned up in court in my finery, prepared my complete mitigation and even took a copy of the death certificate with me to prove I wasn't trying to pull a fast one!

I was told by the judge that there are no circumstances under which he would consider excess speed to be acceptable or appropriate.

I guess I was just unlucky. It was many years ago now. I got to see my grandfather for about an hour before he passed, so taking the fine and points was worth it, as I cut good 30 minutes off the normal journey time.

Patch888

701 posts

129 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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schmalex said:
No. I turned up in court in my finery, prepared my complete mitigation and even took a copy of the death certificate with me to prove I wasn't trying to pull a fast one!

I was told by the judge that there are no circumstances under which he would consider excess speed to be acceptable or appropriate.

I guess I was just unlucky. It was many years ago now. I got to see my grandfather for about an hour before he passed, so taking the fine and points was worth it, as I cut good 30 minutes off the normal journey time.
I absolutely agree, you can't put a price on that extra time you had with him.

sday12

5,053 posts

212 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Licence.
Losing.

That's all.

AyBee

10,536 posts

203 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
budfox said:
You've been driving for 18 months and you've been done for 97mph. In my opinion, which probably won't be the opinion of many others on here, is that you deserve a ban of at least six months, preferably a year.
Did you read the part where he's had a motorbike license for 3 Years before that?
Is that relevant? Every new driver knows that 6 points in 2 years is retest territory so why risk it? If you want to speed, you take your chance, but it would be sensible to make sure you stay within the territory of 3 points...!

Go to court, apologise sincerely and keep your fingers crossed!

Paddymcc

943 posts

192 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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If you're worried about losing your license it might be best taking advice from a barrister with experience in such a case.

I was caught a few years back along with a friend doing 135mph. The police though we were racing and tried to push for dangerous driving and a ban.

Our barrister spoke with PPS and informed them we would plead guilty to driving without due care and attention but would fight the dangerous driving charge. The case was delayed a few times and a more favourable judge took the case at the third try.

Pleaded guilty to the driving without due care and attention and provided the judge with our family backgrounds and showed remorse at our stupid actions.

Ended up each getting 6 points and a hefty £500 fine.

We had been expecting a 6 month ban at best but got very lucky i guess.

Rob175kks

169 posts

153 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Definitely go to court, dress smart and try to appear like a sensible young man who had a moment of madness.
If you really can't cope with losing your license then hire someone to represent you to stand the best chance.

I got caught going a fair bit quicker than you, I got a 28 day ban AND 6 points. (You can get both).

BigBen

11,648 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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5 points and I think about £700 for 96 in a 70.

I decided that if I were a magistrate I would prefer it if people just pleaded guilty and did not turn up, that way I could get home for my dinner earlier. That being the case I wrote a letter saying how it was my first offence in 20 years etc etc

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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AyBee said:
ZX10R NIN said:
budfox said:
You've been driving for 18 months and you've been done for 97mph. In my opinion, which probably won't be the opinion of many others on here, is that you deserve a ban of at least six months, preferably a year.
Did you read the part where he's had a motorbike license for 3 Years before that?
Is that relevant? Every new driver knows that 6 points in 2 years is retest territory so why risk it? If you want to speed, you take your chance, but it would be sensible to make sure you stay within the territory of 3 points...!

Go to court, apologise sincerely and keep your fingers crossed!
Yes, it's relevant. He's not a 'new driver', he's had a full driving licence for four and a half years; a year and a half ago he added category B to that licence.

Sheepshanks

32,800 posts

120 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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BigBen said:
5 points and I think about £700 for 96 in a 70.

I decided that if I were a magistrate I would prefer it if people just pleaded guilty and did not turn up, that way I could get home for my dinner earlier. That being the case I wrote a letter saying how it was my first offence in 20 years etc etc
I used to work with a guy who was a Magistrate. Drove him bonkers that the main priority for many Mags was getting finished in time for a good lunch.

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

130 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Reading through these I think PH should reconsider about dropping "Speed Matters" in the logo

BlackGT3

1,445 posts

211 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Contact a PH'er called atglaw - he is a Lawyer specialising in motoring offences etc.

Pwig

11,956 posts

271 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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Rusty569 said:
Pwig said:
Oh and best bit of advice I ever read was go to court a few weeks before and just sit in for an hour or so. You will get used to the court system and not appear like a rabbit stuck in the headlights when you eventually have your case.
I didn't realise you could do this? That is genuinely really good advice and even though the court is 35 miles away I will try and attend, maybe it will put my mind at ease about going to court in person.
Will the court have specific days for traffic offences, surely I can't just walk into a courtroom to sit at the back and listen?
Just any day when the court is in session.

You just go to the desk, explain you are in court in a week or so for a driving offence and want to get an idea on how it works. Each court has a public area, you can just sit in there all day if you want.

Really really interesting and eye opening. Someone of the exuses people were using for hiding from the police in peoples back gardens etc were brilliant hehe

I was the only one in a suit both times I went, and most of the other people in court that day seemed to know each other lol

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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hora said:
xRIEx said:
Yes, it's relevant. He's not a 'new driver', he's had a full driving licence for four and a half years; a year and a half ago he added category B to that licence.
If hes had a full licence for 4.5yrs why the need to take a driving test? A full licence it wasnt.
Not sure if serious?

Are you saying you only consider a licence to be full when someone has categories for LGV, HGV and coaches, plus whatever else? I can kind of see the logic in terminology there, but I regard a 'full' licence as soon as someone gains their first full entitlement.

ZX10R NIN

27,639 posts

126 months

Wednesday 6th May 2015
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hora said:
xRIEx said:
Yes, it's relevant. He's not a 'new driver', he's had a full driving licence for four and a half years; a year and a half ago he added category B to that licence.
If hes had a full licence for 4.5yrs why the need to take a driving test? A full licence it wasnt.
For the same reason that if you have a Car License & decide you want to ride a Motorbike or Truck etc you have to take a test.

You can have a Full license for each Category.

That's why he won't have to do a re test glad your well versed.

Neil911

35 posts

139 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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A good friend of mine got caught recently doing 97 on the A3. He thought it would just be a big fine & lots of points....but he has now been informed that he might well get an automatic ban as the law has changed. It used to be an automatic ban for 100 & over....but apparently it's now 96! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

GetCarter

29,398 posts

280 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Neil911 said:
A good friend of mine got caught recently doing 97 on the A3. He thought it would just be a big fine & lots of points....but he has now been informed that he might well get an automatic ban as the law has changed. It used to be an automatic ban for 100 & over....but apparently it's now 96! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
It was automatic ban for 100 and over but I got no ban for 100.4 - so there is leeway in the law and it's implementation.

ETA I should add - here in Scotland it's automatic court with almost certain ban at 100 in a 70.


Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 12th May 12:21

AlexS

1,552 posts

233 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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There has never been an automatic ban.

agtlaw

6,712 posts

207 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Neil911 said:
A good friend of mine got caught recently doing 97 on the A3. He thought it would just be a big fine & lots of points....but he has now been informed that he might well get an automatic ban as the law has changed. It used to be an automatic ban for 100 & over....but apparently it's now 96! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Wrong. Also wrong.

lord trumpton

7,406 posts

127 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Hey OP

Have a look here

http://www.ukmotorists.com/speeding%20fines2.asp

Also a past PH thread

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=1&a...

I think basically you will just have to sweat it out and wait as there is a lot of variability.

NicheMonkey

460 posts

129 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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I was in court last month. Caught at 110mph on a dual carriageway 70mph limit. Got myself a brief and mitigation was I needed my license for work. A short ban would have been disastrous to My career. I was given 6 points and a heavy fine. Do turn up in court and come prepared I had character refs and a letter from my employer and they do consider these in court. I had a barrister do all the talking and she spoke to cps before the case too and was confident about the outcome. The court won't want to hear excuses just be apologetic - I had a written statement from myself to the magistrate to express my remorse.
Hope it goes well if you prepare your mitigation accordingly you might just keep your license. It's a horrible time whilst waiting for the court case but if there's one thing you should be thinking is now is a time to slow down on the roads because only now have you realised what it would mean if you lost your license.