Hit by an unmarked police car
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oyster said:
PoleDriver said:
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Wake up dreamer.Sheepshanks said:
What would happen if you were driving at between 110 and 120MPH?
I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.
Only if you have slow reactions! At 110 things do happen quicker, it's not till you start getting above 150 or 160 that things start to get hairy!I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.
This is the UK. The limit is 70. The vast majority of drivers are incompetent, even at that speed. We have to share the roads with them. Hence we all need to take a bit of care.
Talk of 150 or 160 just makes you sound like a child. Or a fairly immature adult.
PoleDriver said:
oyster said:
PoleDriver said:
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Wake up dreamer.Sheepshanks said:
What would happen if you were driving at between 110 and 120MPH?
I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.
Only if you have slow reactions! At 110 things do happen quicker, it's not till you start getting above 150 or 160 that things start to get hairy!I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.
This is the UK. The limit is 70. The vast majority of drivers are incompetent, even at that speed. We have to share the roads with them. Hence we all need to take a bit of care.
Talk of 150 or 160 just makes you sound like a child. Or a fairly immature adult.
Sheepshanks said:
So you can move into a "gap" in faster passing traffic without causing any disturbance to the vehicles behind the gap?
The reality in most everyday traffic situations is that there would be a tidal wave of brake lights coming on as everything behind the gap slowed, if only to re-establish the gap.
Only if you have the driving skills of a baboon. It will no doubt amaze you to know that some people actually look for suitable gaps in the traffic passing them and accelerate to an appropriate speed before slotting in with little or no disturbance to traffic flow. Unfortunately this does take a minuscule amount of skill (e.g. observation and coordination), so most of them take your preferred approach of "fThe reality in most everyday traffic situations is that there would be a tidal wave of brake lights coming on as everything behind the gap slowed, if only to re-establish the gap.
k the highway code and everyone else, I'm the most important person on this road"oyster said:
Wake up dreamer.
This is the UK. The limit is 70. The vast majority of drivers are incompetent, even at that speed. We have to share the roads with them. Hence we all need to take a bit of care.
If you believe that 110+ mph is not a regular occurrence on DCWs and motorways, then you need to wake yourself up. I agree we all need to take care, and this includes making proper observations before making a manoeuvre.This is the UK. The limit is 70. The vast majority of drivers are incompetent, even at that speed. We have to share the roads with them. Hence we all need to take a bit of care.
Edited by Mr2Mike on Monday 18th May 22:35
Mr2Mike said:
Sheepshanks said:
So you can move into a "gap" in faster passing traffic without causing any disturbance to the vehicles behind the gap?
The reality in most everyday traffic situations is that there would be a tidal wave of brake lights coming on as everything behind the gap slowed, if only to re-establish the gap.
Only if you have the driving skills of a baboon. It will no doubt amaze you to know that some people actually look for suitable gaps in the traffic passing them and accelerate to an appropriate speed before slotting in with little or no disturbance to traffic flow. Unfortunately this does take a minuscule amount of skill (e.g. observation and coordination), so most of them take your preferred approach of "fThe reality in most everyday traffic situations is that there would be a tidal wave of brake lights coming on as everything behind the gap slowed, if only to re-establish the gap.
k the highway code and everyone else, I'm the most important person on this road"A driver can/could work their way through slower moving traffic quite easily causing minimal upset, the problem is doing this legally can be more problematic , particularly withthe Uk rules on undertaking - and for most emergency drivers it doesn;t come up as the lights and noise changes the game
Sheepshanks said:
But...you have to change lanes to overtake.
It's a serious point derived from the OP - at what stage does baulking the traffic behind in changing lanes (to overtake) switch from unacceptable to acceptable?
And I have to go to work in order that I might have money to buy a coffee from Costa at Saturday lunchtime. Just because one thing is dependent upon another, it doesn't make the two things one and the same.It's a serious point derived from the OP - at what stage does baulking the traffic behind in changing lanes (to overtake) switch from unacceptable to acceptable?
The point at which a situation goes from 'A cutting off B' to 'B razzing up behind A like a loon' depends on, conservatively, a trillion variables. To keep things simple, unless you're absolutely certain that what you're about to do won't fall into category A, don't do it.
mph1977 said:
I agree with Mr2Mike it;s the kind of thing that seperates a 'driver' from a 'steering wheel operative' ...
A driver can/could work their way through slower moving traffic quite easily causing minimal upset, the problem is doing this legally can be more problematic , particularly withthe Uk rules on undertaking - and for most emergency drivers it doesn;t come up as the lights and noise changes the game
I too concur with this.A driver can/could work their way through slower moving traffic quite easily causing minimal upset, the problem is doing this legally can be more problematic , particularly withthe Uk rules on undertaking - and for most emergency drivers it doesn;t come up as the lights and noise changes the game
I do not consider myself to be an especially talented driver, not in absolute terms. In relative terms, it's a different matter entirely. I'm capable of finding my way through ponderous traffic without causing inconvenience to others.
I hate to make a judgement based on so little evidence, but from this thread alone, Sheeps, you're making yourself out to be a pretty hopeless driver. I'm sure you're sandbagging. I'm certain you're not as clueless as you're making out. What's worrying is that, all the while you're here yanking our collective chain, there are those among us who really do believe the things you say you do.
You're playing the motoring Nigel Farrage to Mumsnet's Daily Wail readership.
Hooli said:
Bet she uses the standard position for st female drivers, hunched over the wheel like a hamster with a digestive.
Oddly enough st male drivers appear to try sit on the back seat as a rule.
Just read this thread. Hope she doesn't apply for a childminder job in Germany. t female drivers, hunched over the wheel like a hamster with a digestive.Oddly enough s
t male drivers appear to try sit on the back seat as a rule.Also, if you are hit from behind by a faster vehicle then unless it shunts you into something moving slower than you then your bonce will effectively be shoved into whatever is behind it i.e. the headrest due to your vehicle accelerating but you staying where you are. I don't understand the injury described.
If it happened, and it happened as described and there was not an operational need for that velocity then making it about the OP's friend brake testing them, or pulling out without due care and attention may be one way for the police to shed blame.
Without links to press coverage it reminds me of that Rover 75 owners club tall tale about a made up road rage incident and the driver throwing himself off of an overpass.
Would the OP's friend, if it happened be given the police accident reference?
Without links to press coverage it reminds me of that Rover 75 owners club tall tale about a made up road rage incident and the driver throwing himself off of an overpass.
Would the OP's friend, if it happened be given the police accident reference?
Mr2Mike said:
TooMany2cvs said:
You can't just throw that in without more detail - preferably a link...
I'm also quite curious about this!Sheepshanks said:
DottyMR2 said:
...look for a gap to move into should you need to move for traffic joining,
So you can move into a "gap" in faster passing traffic without causing any disturbance to the vehicles behind the gap? king ground breaking I know but stay with me here. If you see a gap in traffic you require to move into but the lane is moving 10mph quicker than you, press the accelerator and you will speed up, match the flow of traffic and no one will be disturbed if the gap is either1) big enough
2) you accelerate to that lanes speed
3) you have used your obviously very lacking observation skills and planned the move. You should see the gap you intend to take before moving, plan enough space in front of you to speed up in your lane to match the other lanes flow.
All 3 options are your responsibility too being the one changing lanes. If it's not big enough you don't move, if you haven't matched your speed to their don't move etc.
Sheepshanks said:
The reality in most everyday traffic situations is that there would be a tidal wave of brake lights coming on as everything behind the gap slowed, if only to re-establish the gap.
It's not a reality, it's problem caused by pricks like you. If you cause brake lights by moving out you shouldn't be moving out, see above for tips to avoid causing chaos when you are changing lanes. Too many people have your self centred and ignorant attitude that you are obviously the most important person on the road. I bet you get right angry when someone pulls out on you too? Sheepshanks said:
And (back to the OP again) what if the vehicle behind the gap is some way back, but turns out to have been doing 120?
Oh and again, use your fking observation skills. No vehicle can "come out of nowhere", they've all came from somewhere you just weren't looking hard enough. As state many times in this thread, a glance in the mirror to check there is a gap your car can physically fit in is not enough. You have to judge closing speed. You sound like one of these gimps that drive in their lane until they can't anymore as they're right up behind a lorry, then just pull out at 56mph and don't accelerate past. I genuinely have never pulled out on someone because I check my mirrors regularly to see what's going on, judge approaching traffics speed and don't pull out if they are going quick because I know I hate it when people pull out on me when I'm going quick.
So I return to my point, remove your head from your ass, try and find yourself some sort of grey matter in between your ears and start thinking. Everything you trot out as a "reason" for why it's not your fault is just an excuse and highlights just how s
t a driver you are.I find it amazing that so many members on PH are actually the source of the problem on the roads, they're just too stupid and self absorbed to realise it...
Edited by DottyMR2 on Tuesday 19th May 11:36
Edited by DottyMR2 on Tuesday 19th May 11:37
TooMany2cvs said:
carinaman said:
Without links to press coverage it reminds me of that Rover 75 owners club tall tale about a made up road rage incident and the driver throwing himself off of an overpass.
You can't just throw that in without more detail - preferably a link...http://ww.the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/showthread.ph...
Links provided as requested.
A question for BiB, as the scenario described happened and happened as was described would the OP's friend have been given the police accident reference number?
Edited by carinaman on Tuesday 19th May 14:15
DottyMR2 said:
Oh and again, use your fking observation skills. No vehicle can "come out of nowhere", they've all came from somewhere you just weren't looking hard enough. As state many times in this thread, a glance in the mirror to check there is a gap your car can physically fit in is not enough. You have to judge closing speed. You sound like one of these gimps that drive in their lane until they can't anymore as they're right up behind a lorry, then just pull out at 56mph and don't accelerate past.
I genuinely have never pulled out on someone because I check my mirrors regularly to see what's going on, judge approaching traffics speed and don't pull out if they are going quick because I know I hate it when people pull out on me when I'm going quick.
So I return to my point, remove your head from your ass, try and find yourself some sort of grey matter in between your ears and start thinking. Everything you trot out as a "reason" for why it's not your fault is just an excuse and highlights just how st a driver you are.
I find it amazing that so many members on PH are actually the source of the problem on the roads, they're just too stupid and self absorbed to realise it...
It's about time someone called time on this kind of unnecessarily aggressive post. It's offensive and is spoiling the Forum as a whole. king observation skills. No vehicle can "come out of nowhere", they've all came from somewhere you just weren't looking hard enough. As state many times in this thread, a glance in the mirror to check there is a gap your car can physically fit in is not enough. You have to judge closing speed. You sound like one of these gimps that drive in their lane until they can't anymore as they're right up behind a lorry, then just pull out at 56mph and don't accelerate past. I genuinely have never pulled out on someone because I check my mirrors regularly to see what's going on, judge approaching traffics speed and don't pull out if they are going quick because I know I hate it when people pull out on me when I'm going quick.
So I return to my point, remove your head from your ass, try and find yourself some sort of grey matter in between your ears and start thinking. Everything you trot out as a "reason" for why it's not your fault is just an excuse and highlights just how s
t a driver you are.I find it amazing that so many members on PH are actually the source of the problem on the roads, they're just too stupid and self absorbed to realise it...
DottyMR2 has crossed a line........
Making it about perception seems to be a red herring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y965HcoUULQ
I think Autobahn driving has often been covered in the press and on PH. I think it's well documented that other road users in front could make unexpected lane changes and make them without indicating.
I think most people that have had their driving assessed in preparation for the IAM or RoSPA advanced tests are told to consider other vehicles that are on the NS may move lanes.
Would the blackbox recorder fitted to the police vehicle portrayed in the scenario have the capability to tell whether the headlights were on or not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y965HcoUULQ
I think Autobahn driving has often been covered in the press and on PH. I think it's well documented that other road users in front could make unexpected lane changes and make them without indicating.
I think most people that have had their driving assessed in preparation for the IAM or RoSPA advanced tests are told to consider other vehicles that are on the NS may move lanes.
Would the blackbox recorder fitted to the police vehicle portrayed in the scenario have the capability to tell whether the headlights were on or not?
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