Hit by an unmarked police car

Hit by an unmarked police car

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Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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twistedsanity said:
I'll pass that on to her, seems Improper to be doing that speed in an unmarked car with no lights on don't you think?
No, not at all.

Seems like your friend needs to switch on a bit when driving.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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I hope everyone involved it OK. It's probably a good indirect example of why the "no speed limit" people need to think about their position a little more.

Eclassy said:
What happened to all the extra skills these police drivers have?
Do they include time-travel to see what the future will behold?

Eclassy said:
I rememeber a white van man going to prison for crashing into a car that was stationary in the outside lane of a motorway and killing the driver.
You should be able to stop in the distance that is clear in front of you. Different circumstances to this as the stopping distance rapidly changed. Interesting how you can't see the difference.

hedgefinder said:
I wonder if the Police "incident" van was called and carried out the relevant checks/investigation/report into the circumstances of the accident - ie speeds, vehicle positions etc?
RTC investigatory depth is nearly always dictated by the severity of the incident (mainly injuries). These sound like they are minor injuries.

TheBear

1,940 posts

246 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Regarding her husband not being allowed to sit with her for an interview - No competent adult is allowed someone to sit with them for interview. Only a solicitor can for legal advice, and /or an appropriate adult if needed.

PoleDriver

28,634 posts

194 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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What speed was she doing when she pulled out?
I get this nearly every day. I will be travelling on an NSL dual carriageway in lane 3 at 70-80 (indicated) and some one will pull out, usually without signalling, going at about 50-60 and they don't accelerate!!

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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La Liga said:
It's probably a good indirect example of why the "no speed limit" people need to think about their position a little more.
Not really as the full position is normally the limit should be removed & driving standards improved.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Hooli said:
La Liga said:
It's probably a good indirect example of why the "no speed limit" people need to think about their position a little more.
Not really as the full position is normally the limit should be removed & driving standards improved.
You 'can't' improve fundamental human flaws in judgement , and an individual's limitations, plus all the other variables that affect us e.g. tiredness and distractions (her kids in the car?). Smaller, expected and natural errors become more aggravated with greater speed differentials.

jpringle819

719 posts

239 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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It is surprisingly easy to get caught out by a fast moving car. I was following a learner in a wide 30 who was driving very erratically who then stopped in the middle of the road with no indication. As I moved out to go round them a marked police car came passed me doing about 3 times my speed. I as distracted by the learner and it never occurred to me that someone would be overtaking me a that speed. Obviously the driving instructor was paying more attention to mirrors than I was.

vrtrooper

213 posts

222 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Poor judgement/perception of speed, whilst carrying four young children. Don't think I'd be impressed if they were my children.

Bigends

5,415 posts

128 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Shes entitled to the drivers details. Have Police confirmed whether or not the car was on a job at the time?

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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anonymous said:
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I'd say it's more likely to be the 'manoeuvre, signal, mirror' sequence that's used widely these days. The 'mirror' part is often omitted. And the 'signal' part.

lbc

3,215 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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jpringle819 said:
It is surprisingly easy to get caught out by a fast moving car.
No it isn't if you check your mirrors properly. rolleyes

I notice regularly on motorways, that drivers pull out of lane 2 as soon as a lorry indicates to use that lane,
regardless of what speed the traffic in lane 3 is doing, and causing everyone to use brakes.

The Highway Code says you should not cause other drivers to change speed or direction.



Sheepshanks

32,724 posts

119 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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PoleDriver said:
What speed was she doing when she pulled out?
I get this nearly every day. I will be travelling on an NSL dual carriageway in lane 3 at 70-80 (indicated) and some one will pull out, usually without signalling, going at about 50-60 and they don't accelerate!!
What would happen if you were driving at between 110 and 120MPH?


I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.

Sheepshanks

32,724 posts

119 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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lbc said:
No it isn't if you check your mirrors properly. rolleyes

I notice regularly on motorways, that drivers pull out of lane 2 as soon as a lorry indicates to use that lane,
regardless of what speed the traffic in lane 3 is doing, and causing everyone to use brakes.

The Highway Code says you should not cause other drivers to change speed or direction.
So should the lorry driver be prosecuted? The car driver in lane 2 had to change either speed or direction or he'd have hit the back of the truck.

Some Gump

12,687 posts

186 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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As in a lot of accidents, theis wouldn't have happened if:
A) car wasn't going as quickly
B) your mate used her mirrors correctly.

Only the police can decide what the punishment is for the A part - but looks to me like either party could have avoided this and so it's not just a case of 1 person in the wrong.

Cat

3,019 posts

269 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.
I take it you never drive at more than 40mph if you think such a differential compared to pedestrians etc. means you are "flying" and "upon things in an instant".

Cat

lbc

3,215 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
lbc said:
No it isn't if you check your mirrors properly. rolleyes

I notice regularly on motorways, that drivers pull out of lane 2 as soon as a lorry indicates to use that lane,
regardless of what speed the traffic in lane 3 is doing, and causing everyone to use brakes.

The Highway Code says you should not cause other drivers to change speed or direction.
So should the lorry driver be prosecuted? The car driver in lane 2 had to change either speed or direction or he'd have hit the back of the truck.
The difference is that everyone seems to notice a large lorry, but seem unaware they have a brake pedal in addition to a steering wheel.

Braking and waiting for faster traffic to pass them would be preferred option.


Edited by lbc on Thursday 14th May 18:28

PoleDriver

28,634 posts

194 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
What would happen if you were driving at between 110 and 120MPH?


I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.
Only if you have slow reactions! At 110 things do happen quicker, it's not till you start getting above 150 or 160 that things start to get hairy!

Bigends

5,415 posts

128 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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PoleDriver said:
Sheepshanks said:
What would happen if you were driving at between 110 and 120MPH?


I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.
Only if you have slow reactions! At 110 things do happen quicker, it's not till you start getting above 150 or 160 that things start to get hairy!
Even in heavy traffic? Really?

PoleDriver

28,634 posts

194 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Bigends said:
PoleDriver said:
Sheepshanks said:
What would happen if you were driving at between 110 and 120MPH?


I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.
Only if you have slow reactions! At 110 things do happen quicker, it's not till you start getting above 150 or 160 that things start to get hairy!
Even in heavy traffic? Really?
110, with a trained police driver should not be hairy IF the traffic is moving at normal motorway speeds. From the OP's statement the traffic could not have been heavy or the unmarked car would not have been able to travel at that speed!
Looks like a straightforward case of lack of observation and concentration and possibly failure to signal by the person pulling out!

Sheepshanks

32,724 posts

119 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Cat said:
Sheepshanks said:
I think many of the comments here are out of order. At 110 you're absolutely flying compared to the rest of the traffic - you're upon things in an instant.
I take it you never drive at more than 40mph if you think such a differential compared to pedestrians etc. means you are "flying" and "upon things in an instant".
The OP is talking about a dual carriageway. He doesn't state the speed limit, but even if it's 70, it's likely a lot of traffic would be doing around 50MPH, so the speed differential is 60-70MPH.

And it's a different thing (although no less excusable) to come upon things by chance, than to knowingly drive past other traffic with such a substantial speed differential, especially while not under the bells.