Hit by an unmarked police car
Discussion
I am asking on behalf of a friend, she recently made a lane change on a dual carriageway , checked her mirrors first, saw a car in the distance and decided there was enough room so indicated then pulled out , she was then rear ended by the car she had seen in her mirrors , smashed her face up on the steering wheel, busted nose, black eyes etc.
She managed to get her car safely to the side of the road and was clearly in shock when the occupants of the speeding car announced they were out of uniform police officers, ambulances were called and the police admitted to the ambulance crew that they were doing between 110 and 120 mph at the time of the crash ! In an unmarked car with no sirens or lights fitted or visible.
No accusations of blame were made and the police vehicle and drivers were quickly recovered and removed from the scene of the crash. A Sargent appeared and all my friend recieved was a slip of paper saying she was in an accident with an insurance companies details handwritten on it. No mention that it was a police vehicle, or police officers driving it, no details of the drivers at all or the vehicle , no reg number or names. I would have expected a full on enquiry of some sort as it was an accident involving police officers in a police vehicle where a member of the public was seriously injured? There were also 4 young children In the car as she is a childminder all of whom were taken to hospital. Apparently the car was a police vehicle with a black box fitted but no video or lights and she was invited after a few days to attend an interview under caution which she didn't attend after taking advice , she is the kind of person who wouldn't stand up very well to this sort of interview and was still in shock, in addition to this her husband was told that under no circumstances would he have been allowed to sit in with her. To me this all appears very fishy and improper and would appreciate any informed input as to how she should proceed, she is a sensible girl who clearly couldn't have anticipated the approaching vehicle was doing nearly twice the speed limit and the car was all legal and everything was correct, the children had no injuries and the car was a write off , she has photos of her car which clearly shows a direct rear impact and the inside covered in her blood and also injuries consistent with her wearing her seatbelt,does anybody else smell fish ? Surely the police have broken the law by not giving her the drivers details?
She managed to get her car safely to the side of the road and was clearly in shock when the occupants of the speeding car announced they were out of uniform police officers, ambulances were called and the police admitted to the ambulance crew that they were doing between 110 and 120 mph at the time of the crash ! In an unmarked car with no sirens or lights fitted or visible.
No accusations of blame were made and the police vehicle and drivers were quickly recovered and removed from the scene of the crash. A Sargent appeared and all my friend recieved was a slip of paper saying she was in an accident with an insurance companies details handwritten on it. No mention that it was a police vehicle, or police officers driving it, no details of the drivers at all or the vehicle , no reg number or names. I would have expected a full on enquiry of some sort as it was an accident involving police officers in a police vehicle where a member of the public was seriously injured? There were also 4 young children In the car as she is a childminder all of whom were taken to hospital. Apparently the car was a police vehicle with a black box fitted but no video or lights and she was invited after a few days to attend an interview under caution which she didn't attend after taking advice , she is the kind of person who wouldn't stand up very well to this sort of interview and was still in shock, in addition to this her husband was told that under no circumstances would he have been allowed to sit in with her. To me this all appears very fishy and improper and would appreciate any informed input as to how she should proceed, she is a sensible girl who clearly couldn't have anticipated the approaching vehicle was doing nearly twice the speed limit and the car was all legal and everything was correct, the children had no injuries and the car was a write off , she has photos of her car which clearly shows a direct rear impact and the inside covered in her blood and also injuries consistent with her wearing her seatbelt,does anybody else smell fish ? Surely the police have broken the law by not giving her the drivers details?
I am asking on behalf of a friend, she recently made a lane change on a dual carriageway , checked her mirrors first, saw a car in the distance and decided there was enough room so indicated then pulled out , she was then rear ended by the car she had seen in her mirrors , smashed her face up on the steering wheel, busted nose, black eyes etc.
She managed to get her car safely to the side of the road and was clearly in shock when the occupants of the speeding car announced they were out of uniform police officers, ambulances were called and the police admitted to the ambulance crew that they were doing between 110 and 120 mph at the time of the crash ! In an unmarked car with no sirens or lights fitted or visible.
No accusations of blame were made and the police vehicle and drivers were quickly recovered and removed from the scene of the crash. A Sargent appeared and all my friend recieved was a slip of paper saying she was in an accident with an insurance companies details handwritten on it. No mention that it was a police vehicle, or police officers driving it, no details of the drivers at all or the vehicle , no reg number or names. I would have expected a full on enquiry of some sort as it was an accident involving police officers in a police vehicle where a member of the public was seriously injured? There were also 4 young children In the car as she is a childminder all of whom were taken to hospital. Apparently the car was a police vehicle with a black box fitted but no video or lights and she was invited after a few days to attend an interview under caution which she didn't attend after taking advice , she is the kind of person who wouldn't stand up very well to this sort of interview and was still in shock, in addition to this her husband was told that under no circumstances would he have been allowed to sit in with her. To me this all appears very fishy and improper and would appreciate any informed input as to how she should proceed, she is a sensible girl who clearly couldn't have anticipated the approaching vehicle was doing nearly twice the speed limit and the car was all legal and everything was correct, the children had no injuries and the car was a write off , she has photos of her car which clearly shows a direct rear impact and the inside covered in her blood and also injuries consistent with her wearing her seatbelt,does anybody else smell fish ? Surely the police have broken the law by not giving her the drivers details?
She managed to get her car safely to the side of the road and was clearly in shock when the occupants of the speeding car announced they were out of uniform police officers, ambulances were called and the police admitted to the ambulance crew that they were doing between 110 and 120 mph at the time of the crash ! In an unmarked car with no sirens or lights fitted or visible.
No accusations of blame were made and the police vehicle and drivers were quickly recovered and removed from the scene of the crash. A Sargent appeared and all my friend recieved was a slip of paper saying she was in an accident with an insurance companies details handwritten on it. No mention that it was a police vehicle, or police officers driving it, no details of the drivers at all or the vehicle , no reg number or names. I would have expected a full on enquiry of some sort as it was an accident involving police officers in a police vehicle where a member of the public was seriously injured? There were also 4 young children In the car as she is a childminder all of whom were taken to hospital. Apparently the car was a police vehicle with a black box fitted but no video or lights and she was invited after a few days to attend an interview under caution which she didn't attend after taking advice , she is the kind of person who wouldn't stand up very well to this sort of interview and was still in shock, in addition to this her husband was told that under no circumstances would he have been allowed to sit in with her. To me this all appears very fishy and improper and would appreciate any informed input as to how she should proceed, she is a sensible girl who clearly couldn't have anticipated the approaching vehicle was doing nearly twice the speed limit and the car was all legal and everything was correct, the children had no injuries and the car was a write off , she has photos of her car which clearly shows a direct rear impact and the inside covered in her blood and also injuries consistent with her wearing her seatbelt,does anybody else smell fish ? Surely the police have broken the law by not giving her the drivers details?
twistedsanity said:
I am asking on behalf of a friend, she recently made a lane change on a dual carriageway, checked her mirrors first, saw a car in the distance and decided there was enough room so indicated then pulled out. She was then rear ended by the car she had seen in her mirrors, smashed her face up on the steering wheel, busted nose, black eyes etc.
She managed to get her car safely to the side of the road and was clearly in shock when the occupants of the speeding car announced they were out of uniform police officers, ambulances were called and the police admitted to the ambulance crew that they were doing between 110 and 120 mph at the time of the crash in an unmarked car with no sirens or lights fitted or visible!
No accusations of blame were made and the police vehicle and drivers were quickly recovered and removed from the scene of the crash. A Sargent appeared and all my friend received was a slip of paper saying she was in an accident with an insurance companies details handwritten on it. No mention that it was a police vehicle, or police officers driving it, no details of the drivers at all or the vehicle, no reg number or names.
I would have expected a full on enquiry of some sort as it was an accident involving police officers in a police vehicle where a member of the public was seriously injured? There were also 4 young children in the car as she is a childminder all of whom were taken to hospital.
Apparently the car was a police vehicle with a black box fitted but no video or lights, she was invited after a few days to attend an interview under caution which she didn't attend after taking advice. She is the kind of person who wouldn't stand up very well to this sort of interview and was still in shock, in addition to this her husband was told that under no circumstances would he have been allowed to sit in with her.
To me this all appears very fishy and improper and would appreciate any informed input as to how she should proceed, she is a sensible girl who clearly couldn't have anticipated the approaching vehicle was doing nearly twice the speed limit and the car was all legal and everything was correct.
The children had no injuries and the car was a write off, she has photos of her car which clearly shows a direct rear impact and the inside covered in her blood and also injuries consistent with her wearing her seatbelt, does anybody else smell fish? Surely the police have broken the law by not giving her the drivers details?
.She managed to get her car safely to the side of the road and was clearly in shock when the occupants of the speeding car announced they were out of uniform police officers, ambulances were called and the police admitted to the ambulance crew that they were doing between 110 and 120 mph at the time of the crash in an unmarked car with no sirens or lights fitted or visible!
No accusations of blame were made and the police vehicle and drivers were quickly recovered and removed from the scene of the crash. A Sargent appeared and all my friend received was a slip of paper saying she was in an accident with an insurance companies details handwritten on it. No mention that it was a police vehicle, or police officers driving it, no details of the drivers at all or the vehicle, no reg number or names.
I would have expected a full on enquiry of some sort as it was an accident involving police officers in a police vehicle where a member of the public was seriously injured? There were also 4 young children in the car as she is a childminder all of whom were taken to hospital.
Apparently the car was a police vehicle with a black box fitted but no video or lights, she was invited after a few days to attend an interview under caution which she didn't attend after taking advice. She is the kind of person who wouldn't stand up very well to this sort of interview and was still in shock, in addition to this her husband was told that under no circumstances would he have been allowed to sit in with her.
To me this all appears very fishy and improper and would appreciate any informed input as to how she should proceed, she is a sensible girl who clearly couldn't have anticipated the approaching vehicle was doing nearly twice the speed limit and the car was all legal and everything was correct.
The children had no injuries and the car was a write off, she has photos of her car which clearly shows a direct rear impact and the inside covered in her blood and also injuries consistent with her wearing her seatbelt, does anybody else smell fish? Surely the police have broken the law by not giving her the drivers details?
HantsRat said:
The police did exchange details. You have their insurance and vehicle details. The claim will be against the police rather than the individual. Insurance will cover everything.
Is that how it works with the police? Seems a bit like a company car driver giving his company details over and not his own when on company business Shirley?twistedsanity said:
I'll pass that on to her, seems Improper to be doing that speed in an unmarked car with no lights on don't you think?
Who knows. They may have a legitimate reason to be doing that sort of speed. Could be surveillance, NCA. They may not be normal every day CID from your local force. If they were doing inappropriate speed without a legitimate reason then they will be dealt with in relation to that. If the officers were on a surveillance job or similar, this may be why their names are not given.
twistedsanity said:
she is a sensible girl who clearly couldn't have anticipated the approaching vehicle was doing nearly twice the speed limit
This really isn't a defence. Had she properly observed the car approaching (i.e. not just a glance in the mirror) then she would have been aware of the speed difference. I've had enough people pull out in front of me on DCWs and motorways to know that most of the time people either don't bother looking at all, or look but don't 'see'.If she feels the Police aren't handling the situation correctly, has she spoken to her insurance company about this?
Mr2Mike said:
twistedsanity said:
she is a sensible girl who clearly couldn't have anticipated the approaching vehicle was doing nearly twice the speed limit
This really isn't a defence. Had she properly observed the car approaching (i.e. not just a glance in the mirror) then she would have been aware of the speed difference. I've had enough people pull out in front of me on DCWs and motorways to know that most of the time people either don't bother looking at all, or look but don't 'see'.If she feels the Police aren't handling the situation correctly, has she spoken to her insurance company about this?
ks. Anyone, even the Police, driving at 110 to 120 on a road with a limit of 70 should not expect other law abiding road users to allow for their recklessness. Driving at that speed without sirens and lights is just stupid.Your experience is irrelevant and bears no relation to what has been posted.
If all is as said, the Police driver and passengers should be prosecuted.
I really wouldn't worry too much. This is what insurance is for.
If it is the fault of the police then the damage/costs will be covered by their policy. If you need more details, just call up the force area in which the collision happened and they will have all the details which they can pass to you.
I doubt the police would pursue anything in regards to her pulling out. Just let the insurance companies deal with it all. It's what they're there for after all.
If it is the fault of the police then the damage/costs will be covered by their policy. If you need more details, just call up the force area in which the collision happened and they will have all the details which they can pass to you.
I doubt the police would pursue anything in regards to her pulling out. Just let the insurance companies deal with it all. It's what they're there for after all.
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