Somewhat peeved - done for 82 on motorway????
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Monkeylegend said:
Pete317 said:
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I got zapped at 86 on a motorway the other day. First speeding ticket in 35 years of driving cars and vans for a living and riding big powerful motorbikes.
Fair enough but what gets me was the amount of pretty dangerous driving I observed on that same trip.
But as the dangerous moronic driving occurred below 70mph they get away with it.
Fair enough but what gets me was the amount of pretty dangerous driving I observed on that same trip.
But as the dangerous moronic driving occurred below 70mph they get away with it.
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croyde said:
I got zapped at 86 on a motorway the other day. First speeding ticket in 35 years of driving cars and vans for a living and riding big powerful motorbikes.
Fair enough but what gets me was the amount of pretty dangerous driving I observed on that same trip.
But as the dangerous moronic driving occurred below 70mph they get away with it.
I used to agree completely with that line of thinking, but someone one here made the point that typically moronic drivers do usually speed too.Fair enough but what gets me was the amount of pretty dangerous driving I observed on that same trip.
But as the dangerous moronic driving occurred below 70mph they get away with it.
So running highly automated low-man-hours speed traps DOES help with policing the morons even if you don't catch them doing the bad stuff.
A question to the OP what speed does he think it is fair to be done at then? You were 12 miles over the stated speed limit, do you think it should be 20, 30 miles over?
We can debate on here as much as we like about the pros & cons of those limits, but at present the law states 70MPH is the maximum speed on a motorway.
We can debate on here as much as we like about the pros & cons of those limits, but at present the law states 70MPH is the maximum speed on a motorway.
walm said:
I used to agree completely with that line of thinking, but someone one here made the point that typically moronic drivers do usually speed too.
So running highly automated low-man-hours speed traps DOES help with policing the morons even if you don't catch them doing the bad stuff.
They usually have breakfast and wear clothes too, why we're not policing morons that way as well is beyond me.So running highly automated low-man-hours speed traps DOES help with policing the morons even if you don't catch them doing the bad stuff.
When my aunt got stopped on the m1 near Sheffield a few years ago the cop said "keep it under 90 next time and you'll be ok." No decent copper would do you for under 85 I thought... As someone who does 34k miles/year it's rarely the 80-90mph drivers I see causing a hazard. F&£@wits in the middle lane, girls in mini's using the hard shoulder to undertake traffic, and people on the phone/texting/face-booking are far more dangerous!
nonsense said:
When my aunt got stopped on the m1 near Sheffield a few years ago the cop said "keep it under 90 next time and you'll be ok." No decent copper would do you for under 85 I thought... As someone who does 34k miles/year it's rarely the 80-90mph drivers I see causing a hazard. F&£@wits in the middle lane, girls in mini's using the hard shoulder to undertake traffic, and people on the phone/texting/face-booking are far more dangerous!
I know there are no stats for this but I do feel that when amongst the speeders, I am amongst a better standard of driver.When cops used to patrol the roads in great numbers I did get stopped a few times for speeding but they would also remark on my safe driving, keeping my distance from other cars and lane discipline.
Thus I didn't get a ticket. Cameras don't see that.
Also in my previous post I said that I was zapped at 86, which I don't actually believe.
I am a very attentive driver, I saw the camera van on an overhead bridge from a long way away and made sure I was at a legal speed. I wasn't worried at all so I was surprised that I got a ticket.
Trouble is, it's all about damage limitation. It would cost me far more to take it all to court and clear my name then to just accept the £100 and points, or in my case, a speed awareness course.
In the end, over those 35 ticketless years, I figure I owe them anyway
GarethA said:
Yes aware 70 is the limit
No not aware a hotspot as not regular enough through the area but I guess I do now
It was a camera van on an overpass and it wasn't exactly hidden, but 80 is so common and I was surrounded by flowing traffic of comparable speed.
Ho hum
You spotted the van ? Obviously, you should have then made a full ememergency slow down to 70mph. Bugger the resulting mayhem it would probably caused, the road would be much safer then.No not aware a hotspot as not regular enough through the area but I guess I do now
It was a camera van on an overpass and it wasn't exactly hidden, but 80 is so common and I was surrounded by flowing traffic of comparable speed.
Ho hum
Drumroll said:
A question to the OP what speed does he think it is fair to be done at then?
Was chatting with a traffic cop I know a while back. Apparently, the CC for his area was of the opinion that motorways were the safest roads in his jurisdiction and should be as 'self-policing' as possible.For this reason, he didn't want cameras perched on bridges enforcing the limit, nor was he overly fussed about drivers getting up to maybe 90mph. Over 90mph (and especially if the drivers were unaware they were being tracked by a marked / unmarked vehicle), then he expected to see his officers taking suitable action as they saw fit.
In excess of 100mph, and court was pretty much nailed on.
Quite refreshing to know that someone driving like a dick at 65mph was more likely to get a pull than someone driving safely and courteously at 85mph.
I think the prosecution speed must be something like 80 and up.
I was travelling north up the M40 a while back, outside lane doing 80 on the speedo. Eased off when I saw the camera van up on the bridge but I doubt I was quick enough to slow before it would have spotted me. It probably clocked me at about 77-78 actual speed, and I never recieved anything through the post.
Must have been close though and I was far from the only person doing that speed.
I was travelling north up the M40 a while back, outside lane doing 80 on the speedo. Eased off when I saw the camera van up on the bridge but I doubt I was quick enough to slow before it would have spotted me. It probably clocked me at about 77-78 actual speed, and I never recieved anything through the post.
Must have been close though and I was far from the only person doing that speed.
zedx19 said:
As others have said, caught at 82mph means more like 90 on the speedo, so not entirely sure what the OP is peeved at?
Think you probably need to check your running the right wheels on your car if its that far out! At the most my ClioSport is 2mph difference between the Nav and Speedo, and my previous Ford Focus was about 3-4mph out.
Terminator X said:
Stick to 80 on the speedo and you should be fine as it will over read a tad. If you were caught at 82 you were probably 90 on the speedo, yes
TX.
Whilst there is a lot of truth in what you say it is also a question of know your car and it's speedo!TX.
A couple of mine over read (ie 55 on the dial is 50 in reality), but a couple, and notably given that it is a bit of a rarity for the make, the Tamora, are within 1mph when checked against GPS.
tapereel said:
The limit is 70mph.
This.You've been on a speed awareness course, then decide to exceed the speed limit by 12mph, then come on here moaning about it.
These days with technology, if you go 1mph over the limit, you are putting your licence at risk.
Sorry you got done, but really.......
walm said:
croyde said:
I got zapped at 86 on a motorway the other day. First speeding ticket in 35 years of driving cars and vans for a living and riding big powerful motorbikes.
Fair enough but what gets me was the amount of pretty dangerous driving I observed on that same trip.
But as the dangerous moronic driving occurred below 70mph they get away with it.
I used to agree completely with that line of thinking, but someone one here made the point that typically moronic drivers do usually speed too.Fair enough but what gets me was the amount of pretty dangerous driving I observed on that same trip.
But as the dangerous moronic driving occurred below 70mph they get away with it.
So running highly automated low-man-hours speed traps DOES help with policing the morons even if you don't catch them doing the bad stuff.
SK425 said:
walm said:
croyde said:
I got zapped at 86 on a motorway the other day. First speeding ticket in 35 years of driving cars and vans for a living and riding big powerful motorbikes.
Fair enough but what gets me was the amount of pretty dangerous driving I observed on that same trip.
But as the dangerous moronic driving occurred below 70mph they get away with it.
I used to agree completely with that line of thinking, but someone one here made the point that typically moronic drivers do usually speed too.Fair enough but what gets me was the amount of pretty dangerous driving I observed on that same trip.
But as the dangerous moronic driving occurred below 70mph they get away with it.
So running highly automated low-man-hours speed traps DOES help with policing the morons even if you don't catch them doing the bad stuff.
I am simply saying that a GOOD side-effect of speed traps (cheap road policing) is that they catch more dangerous drivers than law-abiding folk momentarily straying over the limit than you would catch if you just randomly gave out fines (the suggestion above to fine people wearing clothes).
It is obviously not perfect but I think the risk of getting caught is worth it, as it is better than nothing.
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