Somewhat peeved - done for 82 on motorway????

Somewhat peeved - done for 82 on motorway????

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surveyor

17,866 posts

185 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Out of interest how far do these bloody vans target ahead when on motorway bridges

Hopefully I saw it in time.....

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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HantsRat said:
robinessex said:
Irritates the F***K out of me. I'm capable, when the conditions are ok, to drive faster, SAFELY, so why the bloody hell can't I?
Because that is the law of this country. Either move to Germany or live with it. Write to your MP if you would like the law changed.
The question being asked is, why can't we get the law changed?

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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robinessex said:
I didn't know the chip inplacement had already started !!
Do you have any examples of how the 70 limit has adversely affected you, apart from perhaps a fine and points for straying over it, which could happen with almost any limit?

I would welcome an increase, but do not find the current limit to be a serious problem.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

109 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Dr Jekyll said:
The question being asked is, why can't we get the law changed?
You can, write to your MP or start a petition on number 10 site. I think you will struggle though to get enough people backing an increase in the speed limit.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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HantsRat said:
You can, write to your MP or start a petition on number 10 site. I think you will struggle though to get enough people backing an increase in the speed limit.
It doesn't matter how many people back it, the government won't change it. Just as local authorities ignore public pressure even when backed by the police and traffic engineers.

Pete317

1,430 posts

223 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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HantsRat said:
robinessex said:
Irritates the F***K out of me. I'm capable, when the conditions are ok, to drive faster, SAFELY, so why the bloody hell can't I?
Because that is the law of this country. Either move to Germany or live with it. Write to your MP if you would like the law changed.
You do know what a forum is for, don't you?
It's for people to discuss various topics of interest.
It's not for people to be constantly bombarded by those who take delight in stating the bleeding obvious.


Edited by Pete317 on Monday 18th May 18:01

DaveCWK

2,002 posts

175 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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I've posted about this speed trap before:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Try to look on the bright side OP - Aside from that bit, another around Oxford & a trafpol hideaway place near the stokenchurch downhill stretch, you can do pretty much whatever you want with relative immunity. Just watch out for the occasional pesky undercover silver/dark blue Volvos & BMW's wink

Magic919

14,126 posts

202 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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DaveCWK said:
ITry to look on the bright side OP - Aside from that bit, another around Oxford & a trafpol hideaway place near the stokenchurch downhill stretch, you can do pretty much whatever you want with relative immunity.
How do you get immunity?

vonhosen

40,271 posts

218 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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A fuel injection

caiss4

1,888 posts

198 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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vonhosen said:
A fuel injection
biglaugh

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Monday 18th May 2015
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Corpulent Tosser said:
robinessex said:
Irritates the F***K out of me. I'm capable, when the conditions are ok, to drive faster, SAFELY, so why the bloody hell can't I?
The argument may well be that not everyone is a driving god like yourself and the law has to account for lesser beings and their lack of driving talent.

Seriously though, when and how does the 70 limit actual cause you a problem, given that you can in most circumstances increase that to 80mph without fear of prosecution.
I don't have my copy of roadcraft to hand , but in the early chapters it talks a lot about attitude , illusory superiority and what has latterly become known as th Dunning-Kruger effect ... this is why a lot of people with an interest in driver development / advanced driving whether or not combined with emergency services / health care experience are justifiably concerned over some of these attitudes.

Edited by mph1977 on Tuesday 19th May 11:53

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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anonymous said:
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I do not recall seeing a single post which displayed any pleasure in the prosecution of the OP or indeed anyone else straying a bit over the limit, not in this thread nor in any other.
If I am mistaken I am sure you will provide a quotes from the posts.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Durzel said:
CrutyRammers said:
Indeed, it has to be considered along with harm done, or the increase in risk it may cause.

So, thousands every day do 80-90 on the motorway. They cause no harm to others. Virtually none of them not get punished. They do not harm society.
Ergo, the law has little public support, achieves no good for society as a whole, and hence should be changed.

I'd be happy to hear a good reason why the limit should be 70, so far all arguments have been "because it is", or "there have to be limits".
Problem is how many of these people do 80-90 because this is where they feel they are at their limits, or that they feel that it's around about the threshold they'd expect to avoid prosecution due to pub law/ACPO guidelines etc? I'd wager it's the latter (see OP).

The argument about raising limits on motorways presupposes the former, that people would continue to do 80-90 when the limit is 80.
Well, we wouldn't know without trying it. I'd wager the former. It's the same argument as, would people steal and murder if there weren't laws prohibiting it. Some would, but then some do anyway. But the majority? I doubt it. This has been argued since Socrates so I doubt we'll get a conclusion here.

Pete317

1,430 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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anonymous said:
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Judging by the relative amount of traffic on the rest of this site, I would say that the car enthusiasts avoid SP&L in their droves.

This has become the territory of the pontificators.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

109 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Pete317 said:
You do know what a forum is for, don't you?
It's for people to discuss various topics of interest.
It's not for people to be constantly bombarded by those who take delight in stating the bleeding obvious.


Edited by Pete317 on Monday 18th May 18:01
The poster asked why he couldn't go faster than the speed limit. I explained the answer. The law.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

109 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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anonymous said:
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Most people break the speed limit and most people know they are breaking the law while doing so. If they get caught, there's no point coming online and ranting about it! No on eis suggesting the OP deserved what he caught but he got caught and there no point complaining about it.

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Hear hear.

Sorry, +1.

PorkInsider

5,893 posts

142 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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HantsRat said:
Pete317 said:
You do know what a forum is for, don't you?
It's for people to discuss various topics of interest.
It's not for people to be constantly bombarded by those who take delight in stating the bleeding obvious.


Edited by Pete317 on Monday 18th May 18:01
The poster asked why he couldn't go faster than the speed limit. I explained the answer. The law.
And very useful that would have been to OP, I'm sure.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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anonymous said:
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If so you will be able to quote someone who has displayed pleasure at the OP being caught. Or indeed a quote from one of the idiots who revel in people being caught. Won't You ?

You are mistaken if you think people who accept that there are speed limits and if they get caught they accept that the fault is with themselves revel in anyone being caught.

I certainly don't revel in anyone being caught as I have been caught a few times myself, whose fault do you think it was that I got caught ?



walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th May 2015
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Corpulent Tosser said:
Whose fault do you think it was that I got caught ?
It's the system, man.

You gotta fight the system.
Down with the nanny state trying to infringe my civil liberty to drive at whatever speed I deem appropriate.
I mean, sure, most morons behind the wheel are a total liability above 80 but that's irrelevant - IT'S MY RIGHT!! rolleyes