Somewhat peeved - done for 82 on motorway????
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PH is heading down the sink. Used to have a motto, 'speed matters' Now gone. Almost a subset of Mumsnet now. Anyway, lets clamp now on intelligent drivers driving to the road conditions, and let all the sub speed limit muppets carry on staggering around our roads without any policing to put them in line. Brilliant. Incidently, a post in another topic here by one of our BIB's indicated that the future austerity plans for the Police Force has the potenial to become a crisis. How about taking the speed van puppets of the road, and sticking another pair of hands in Police staion back offices to make a useful contribution to solving real crimes?
Corpulent Tosser said:
Alex said:
These threads always bring out the sanctimonious "you were breaking the speed limit" brigade, who deliberately miss the point.
I'm with the OP. It's outrageous that the cops are wasting time zapping motorists on motorways.
Sanctimonious ! What utter bI'm with the OP. It's outrageous that the cops are wasting time zapping motorists on motorways.
ks, most of us have been caught speeding at some time, some more than others, most don't then come here and bleat about getting caught, we know the limits and sometimes choose to ignore them, it is a choice.Have you ever heard of personal responsibility ?
You f
k up and get caught you take the consequences and don't be a fking cry baby about it. There are lots of things in life that I'd like to be different, but they aren't so I have to accept them and get on with it.
I'd really rather that there weren't sheep wandering free on the Moors. It means that when I'm out on my bike I have to exercise caution when riding past them. After hitting a sheep on a bike I know how much it hurts. It would be great if there were no sheep there, but there are and to be honest the need to keep sheep out weights my desire to go as fast as possible on my bike.
It's the same with speed limits. Driving fast is fun, but I accept the need for some sort of limit, even if I don't always agree with where it is set. The roads are a there so everyone can get from A to B, they are not my racetrack and I don't have more right to drive as fast as I want as other people do to get around in relative safety. I can't change this (and I can't change physics!) and to be honest there are bigger things in life to worry about.
robinessex said:
PH is heading down the sink. Used to have a motto, 'speed matters' Now gone. Almost a subset of Mumsnet now. Anyway, lets clamp now on intelligent drivers driving to the road conditions, and let all the sub speed limit muppets carry on staggering around our roads without any policing to put them in line. Brilliant. Incidently, a post in another topic here by one of our BIB's indicated that the future austerity plans for the Police Force has the potenial to become a crisis. How about taking the speed van puppets of the road, and sticking another pair of hands in Police staion back offices to make a useful contribution to solving real crimes?
Oh don't be silly 
References to Mumsnet have become the PH version of Godwin's law
Devil2575 said:
robinessex said:
PH is heading down the sink. Used to have a motto, 'speed matters' Now gone. Almost a subset of Mumsnet now. Anyway, lets clamp now on intelligent drivers driving to the road conditions, and let all the sub speed limit muppets carry on staggering around our roads without any policing to put them in line. Brilliant. Incidently, a post in another topic here by one of our BIB's indicated that the future austerity plans for the Police Force has the potenial to become a crisis. How about taking the speed van puppets of the road, and sticking another pair of hands in Police staion back offices to make a useful contribution to solving real crimes?
Oh don't be silly References to Mumsnet have become the PH version of Godwin's law
What a miserable finger up arse country this has become. I have been driving safely for over fifty years without incident and much fun it had been. Not any more and I appreciate the volume of traffic now dictates the many laws and enforcement required to keep us all in line.
Every trip now means the speedo is the only thing that your attention is required for , happy days
Every trip now means the speedo is the only thing that your attention is required for , happy days
Corpulent Tosser said:
Alex said:
These threads always bring out the sanctimonious "you were breaking the speed limit" brigade, who deliberately miss the point.
I'm with the OP. It's outrageous that the cops are wasting time zapping motorists on motorways.
Sanctimonious ! What utter bI'm with the OP. It's outrageous that the cops are wasting time zapping motorists on motorways.
ks, most of us have been caught speeding at some time, some more than others, most don't then come here and bleat about getting caught, we know the limits and sometimes choose to ignore them, it is a choice.Have you ever heard of personal responsibility ?
You f
k up and get caught you take the consequences and don't be a fking cry baby about it. robinessex said:
PH is heading down the sink. Used to have a motto, 'speed matters' Now gone. Almost a subset of Mumsnet now. Anyway, lets clamp now on intelligent drivers driving to the road conditions, and let all the sub speed limit muppets carry on staggering around our roads without any policing to put them in line. Brilliant. Incidently, a post in another topic here by one of our BIB's indicated that the future austerity plans for the Police Force has the potenial to become a crisis. How about taking the speed van puppets of the road, and sticking another pair of hands in Police staion back offices to make a useful contribution to solving real crimes?
Have to say I agree. I'd be pretty narked to get ticketed for 82, 85 is an entirely normal speed to be doing on the motorway. A law ignored by so many people without punishment or harm done is simply a bad law. Fining someone for 82 achieves what for society? Apart from giving smug posters a nice warm holier-than-thou glow.Corpulent Tosser said:
82 in a 70 limit, I really don't know what you are complaining about, you took a chance and got caught.
as even on the entirely optional 10% + 2 from the increasingly aged ACPO guidance that came up with it the OP's still over simple sums wise means OP's 17% over the limit
Lordglenmorangie said:
What a miserable finger up arse country this has become. I have been driving safely for over fifty years without incident and much fun it had been. Not any more and I appreciate the volume of traffic now dictates the many laws and enforcement required to keep us all in line.
Every trip now means the speedo is the only thing that your attention is required for , happy days
I don't think it's miserable at all. I think that some people seem perpetually angry about stuff but if you ignore them then it's fine. Speed cameras and enforcement are not the most significant problem when It comes to enjoying driving, traffic volume is. Every trip now means the speedo is the only thing that your attention is required for , happy days
Devil2575 said:
robinessex said:
PH is heading down the sink. Used to have a motto, 'speed matters' Now gone. Almost a subset of Mumsnet now. Anyway, lets clamp now on intelligent drivers driving to the road conditions, and let all the sub speed limit muppets carry on staggering around our roads without any policing to put them in line. Brilliant. Incidently, a post in another topic here by one of our BIB's indicated that the future austerity plans for the Police Force has the potenial to become a crisis. How about taking the speed van puppets of the road, and sticking another pair of hands in Police staion back offices to make a useful contribution to solving real crimes?
Oh don't be silly References to Mumsnet have become the PH version of Godwin's law
"As someone who engages in motoring criminality realises the thread is not going his way, the likelihood of a comparision with mumsnet increases exponentially, at this point the person who makes the comparision is deemed to have lost the argument "
Devil2575 said:
Lordglenmorangie said:
What a miserable finger up arse country this has become. I have been driving safely for over fifty years without incident and much fun it had been. Not any more and I appreciate the volume of traffic now dictates the many laws and enforcement required to keep us all in line.
Every trip now means the speedo is the only thing that your attention is required for , happy days
I don't think it's miserable at all. I think that some people seem perpetually angry about stuff but if you ignore them then it's fine. Speed cameras and enforcement are not the most significant problem when It comes to enjoying driving, traffic volume is. Every trip now means the speedo is the only thing that your attention is required for , happy days
Vipers said:
zedx19 said:
As others have said, caught at 82mph means more like 90 on the speedo, so not entirely sure what the OP is peeved at?
So my speedo shows 70, but I am doing 78, is that you are saying? Or my speedo shows 78, and I am doing 70.
zedx19 said:
.......caught at 82mph means more like 90 on the speedo.....
The clue is in the writing! 
(And if your "speedo shows 70, but I am doing 78" then your car is illegal as speedometers by Law are not allowed to under-read the actual speed of the vehicle!)
As for the OP:
If you don't like being prosecuted for only doing 12 mph over the legal speed limit, next time, grow a pair, put your foot down and be prosecuted for driving at a more manly speed over the legal limit that you feel justifies prosecution, after all, you've only got yourself to blame for driving like a wuss and getting 3 points for such a crappy infraction of the Law!
This whole thread is like a motoring equivalent of a shoplifter moaning that it's unfair that they've been arrested for stealing because they never steal more than £10's worth of stuff from any one shop!
4rephill said:
Vipers said:
zedx19 said:
As others have said, caught at 82mph means more like 90 on the speedo, so not entirely sure what the OP is peeved at?
So my speedo shows 70, but I am doing 78, is that you are saying? Or my speedo shows 78, and I am doing 70.zedx19 said:
.......caught at 82mph means more like 90 on the speedo.....
The clue is in the writing! (And if your "speedo shows 70, but I am doing 78" then your car is illegal as speedometers by Law are not allowed to under-read the actual speed of the vehicle!)
As for the OP:
If you don't like being prosecuted for only doing 12 mph over the legal speed limit, next time, grow a pair, put your foot down and be prosecuted for driving at a more manly speed over the legal limit that you feel justifies prosecution, after all, you've only got yourself to blame for driving like a wuss and getting 3 points for such a crappy infraction of the Law!
This whole thread is like a motoring equivalent of a shoplifter moaning that it's unfair that they've been arrested for stealing because they never steal more than £10's worth of stuff from any one shop!
82 mph is a stupid speed to be caught at. 95 mph is much more sensible. After that 115mph, then the skies the limit!
This whole thread is like a motoring equivalent of a shoplifter moaning that it's unfair that they've been arrested for stealing because they never steal more than £10's worth of stuff from any one shop!
No it isn't. I doubt if any PH'er would condone stealing someone elses property. I doubt if they'd condon driving the wrong way up a one way street, or on the wrong side of the road, or go through a red traffic light. Exceeding an arbitary speed limit imposed by some fruitcase isn't actaully a crime is it. Just against the 'law'. Go thinkabout it.
No it isn't. I doubt if any PH'er would condone stealing someone elses property. I doubt if they'd condon driving the wrong way up a one way street, or on the wrong side of the road, or go through a red traffic light. Exceeding an arbitary speed limit imposed by some fruitcase isn't actaully a crime is it. Just against the 'law'. Go thinkabout it.
robinessex said:
So when you have to do 200 miles up the M4 at 4:30am, and the bloody thing is devoid of any other vehicles, you have to cruise at 69.99mph. Bloody fantastic. And before you ask, I did that journey many, many times, and no I didn't. And it wasn't dangerous either. 'Cos it kept me awake, which 69.99mph wouldn't have. External stimulation and all that stuff.
Personally I'd do everything in my power to avoid having to do a journey like that. Driving hundreds of miles when you should be asleep is madness, IMHO.However in general I don't haven issue with setting the cruise to 70-80mph on the motorway. Fill the ipod with podcasts and sit back and relax. It's always been risky to do high speeds for long distances even before the advent of speed cameras. I've only ever had short squirts up to high speeds on the motorway. I've certainly never cruised at speeds higher than about 85 mph.
Nothing wrong with breaking arbitrary limits in my opinion, residential zones notwithstanding.
Not taking responsibility if/when you get caught, though, is dumb. You can dream of a world where speed limits aren't arbitrary and Police always use discretion that goes in your favour, or you can drive in the real world. Complaining about being caught when you're the only one that is responsible for being caught is weak. Speed, or don't speed, but don't piss and moan when you get caught exceeding limits you're well aware of.
Not taking responsibility if/when you get caught, though, is dumb. You can dream of a world where speed limits aren't arbitrary and Police always use discretion that goes in your favour, or you can drive in the real world. Complaining about being caught when you're the only one that is responsible for being caught is weak. Speed, or don't speed, but don't piss and moan when you get caught exceeding limits you're well aware of.
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