Roundabouts & blocking entry
Discussion
Out of interest - how did the police-lady know you were going 6 to 12?
She could have reasonably assumed you were going 6 to 9 in which case it really isn't that inconsiderate to continue on the roundabout and ignore you, is it?
However, more important is to note that you have learned two things: it's nothing like blocking a T-junction as you initially suggested and that sounding your horn when stationary and in no danger is an offence.
Despite all that you would do it all again.
From which I can only surmise that your OP was simply an opportunity to (attempt to) bash the police rather than a genuine request for info, which does in fact make you Eclassy.v2.
She could have reasonably assumed you were going 6 to 9 in which case it really isn't that inconsiderate to continue on the roundabout and ignore you, is it?
However, more important is to note that you have learned two things: it's nothing like blocking a T-junction as you initially suggested and that sounding your horn when stationary and in no danger is an offence.
Despite all that you would do it all again.
From which I can only surmise that your OP was simply an opportunity to (attempt to) bash the police rather than a genuine request for info, which does in fact make you Eclassy.v2.
walm said:
Out of interest - how did the police-lady know you were going 6 to 12?
She could have reasonably assumed you were going 6 to 9 in which case it really isn't that inconsiderate to continue on the roundabout and ignore you, is it?
However, more important is to note that you have learned two things: it's nothing like blocking a T-junction as you initially suggested and that sounding your horn when stationary and in no danger is an offence.
Despite all that you would do it all again.
From which I can only surmise that your OP was simply an opportunity to (attempt to) bash the police rather than a genuine request for info, which does in fact make you Eclassy.v2.
The ONLY reason I mentioned it was a police car is I would expect them to drive to a slightly higher standard than Joe Public. FYI I have nothing but respect for the Police, to the point where (since it crops on here every now and again), I'm more than happy for them to park on double yellow lines even if it's just to nip to the shops for their lunch since the less time they take doing that, the more time they have to do the important stuff. So no, it was not an opportunity for a bit of police-bashing otherwise there would've been no question asked.She could have reasonably assumed you were going 6 to 9 in which case it really isn't that inconsiderate to continue on the roundabout and ignore you, is it?
However, more important is to note that you have learned two things: it's nothing like blocking a T-junction as you initially suggested and that sounding your horn when stationary and in no danger is an offence.
Despite all that you would do it all again.
From which I can only surmise that your OP was simply an opportunity to (attempt to) bash the police rather than a genuine request for info, which does in fact make you Eclassy.v2.
It was fairly obvious where I was going (at least it would've been to me since I use these things when I'm driving) due to my positioning on the road and also the direction my front wheels were pointing i.e. it would've been clear I wasn't taking the exit she was taking.
Tooting (TOOTING, which is what I did, not blasting) your horn when stationary, although technically an offence, is a lot less inconsiderate than blocking another driver imo.
Centurion07 said:
The ONLY reason I mentioned it was a police car is I would expect them to drive to a slightly higher standard than Joe Public. FYI I have nothing but respect for the Police, to the point where (since it crops on here every now and again), I'm more than happy for them to park on double yellow lines even if it's just to nip to the shops for their lunch since the less time they take doing that, the more time they have to do the important stuff. So no, it was not an opportunity for a bit of police-bashing otherwise there would've been no question asked.
It was fairly obvious where I was going (at least it would've been to me since I use these things when I'm driving) due to my positioning on the road and also the direction my front wheels were pointing i.e. it would've been clear I wasn't taking the exit she was taking.
Tooting (TOOTING, which is what I did, not blasting) your horn when stationary, although technically an offence, is a lot less inconsiderate than blocking another driver imo.
It's now ok for the police to break the law when it does not matter to you but not to be legal and inconvenience you.It was fairly obvious where I was going (at least it would've been to me since I use these things when I'm driving) due to my positioning on the road and also the direction my front wheels were pointing i.e. it would've been clear I wasn't taking the exit she was taking.
Tooting (TOOTING, which is what I did, not blasting) your horn when stationary, although technically an offence, is a lot less inconsiderate than blocking another driver imo.
Keep digging
Jonsv8 said:
It's now ok for the police to break the law when it does not matter to you but not to be legal and inconvenience you.
Keep digging
If it doesn't inconvenience ANYONE then yes. Parking on DYL does not automatically cause anyone a problem. Blocking another car does. Keep trying though. Keep digging
grimmac said:
So if she had waited and not entered the rb... To avoid inconveniencing you..
what about the car behind her wanting to take the first exit - which is clear - but can't because she is keeping the entry clear for you?
How long were you actually inconvenienced for?
anyone behind would be far less important than the OP, but that doesn't actually matter, the OP's eagle eye surveyed the whole traffic situation of a busy roundabout, and was able to work out that no one else would have been inconvenienced for the 10 seconds or so he would have needed to pull out, and the woman was a useless bint for not being able to work out the same from her limited view in the rear view mirror in the half second or so she had to made a decision on where to stop.what about the car behind her wanting to take the first exit - which is clear - but can't because she is keeping the entry clear for you?
How long were you actually inconvenienced for?
ging84 said:
grimmac said:
So if she had waited and not entered the rb... To avoid inconveniencing you..
what about the car behind her wanting to take the first exit - which is clear - but can't because she is keeping the entry clear for you?
How long were you actually inconvenienced for?
anyone behind would be far less important than the OP, but that doesn't actually matter, the OP's eagle eye surveyed the whole traffic situation of a busy roundabout, and was able to work out that no one else would have been inconvenienced for the 10 seconds or so he would have needed to pull out, and the woman was a useless bint for not being able to work out the same from her limited view in the rear view mirror in the half second or so she had to made a decision on where to stop.what about the car behind her wanting to take the first exit - which is clear - but can't because she is keeping the entry clear for you?
How long were you actually inconvenienced for?
Centurion07 said:
All you two need to know is that as I was the only one out of the three of us that was actually there, I'm the only one in a position to say what was possible given the road layout and amount of traffic at the time, but feel free to carry on making stuff up to have a swipe.
You weren't in the woman's car either, so you were not seeing it from her perspective, yet you were happy to call her a stupid bint ging84 said:
Centurion07 said:
All you two need to know is that as I was the only one out of the three of us that was actually there, I'm the only one in a position to say what was possible given the road layout and amount of traffic at the time, but feel free to carry on making stuff up to have a swipe.
You weren't in the woman's car either, so you were not seeing it from her perspective, yet you were happy to call her a stupid bint Keep going though if it makes you feel better.
Centurion07 said:
desolate said:
She is less wrong than you sounding your horn
You think so? Using my horn to make another road user aware of my presence? I thought that was actually the point...Your presence was on a entry to the roundabout where YOU have to give way. The police officer doesn't need a warning that you're there.
The answer you wanted was provided in the first reply you received from Torquey.
Vee said:
The answer you wanted was provided in the first reply you received from Torquey.
Yep, something I'm fully aware of yet it hasn't stopped a select few piling in trying to take the moral high ground has it? 
Not that it's a surprise; I've been here long enough to know how it would go.
grimmac said:
Or the fuller version...
112
The horn. Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You MUST NOT use your horn
Law CUR reg 99
Taxi / minicab drivers throughout the country are turning themselves in as we speak.112
The horn. Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You MUST NOT use your horn
- while stationary on the road
- when driving in a built-up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am
Law CUR reg 99
(Twice)
Hackney said:
grimmac said:
Or the fuller version...
112
The horn. Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You MUST NOT use your horn
Law CUR reg 99
Taxi / minicab drivers throughout the country are turning themselves in as we speak.112
The horn. Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You MUST NOT use your horn
- while stationary on the road
- when driving in a built-up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am
Law CUR reg 99
(Twice)
I was searching and found this post on here but not actually the issue I was looking for however some of it was pertinent.
I was driving to a shop last night during school run time and drove down a lane about 1/4 mile long that is a 20mph zone as there are schools along it. Lots of kids all spilling out onto the footpaths and trying to cross the roads. Due to the time of day and it was raining I stuck to the legal limit for the full distance of the road which meant that by the time I got to the end I had a queue of several cars behind me bumper to bumper.
One car turned off left before I got to the end and came back on the road in front of me after speeding down an other road.
When I got to the end of the road I got to a mini roundabout with 3 exits (inclusive of the one I was entering on) I was going left or straight on to cross a small canal bridge that only has 1 car width. I could not come off due to traffic coming over the canal bridge on the other side towards the roundabout and 2 cars blocking the exit to the left turn. So if I had entered the roundabout I would have had to stop on the roundabout hence blocking it from all put people prepared to drive over the middle of the roundabout. So I decided to wait till my exit was clear which may be about 30 seconds or so.
However the guy behind me decided he had the right to start honking and swearing at me as he wanted to turn right which was clear. After he had honked at me twice I decided to stop on the roundabout and let him illegally drive over the middle of said roundabout as he was screaming obscenities at me while leaning across is young son he had just picked up from school. I just shouted back what is wrong and then he went on his way with steam coming out his ears.
So was the guy right to force me to stop on the roundabout so he could turn right by driving over the middle of it and was he right to honk his horn at me and swear?
I didn't enter as I decided blocking or starting to block the roundabout was a bad course of action when waiting for a while would not cause any problem. However I was stopping people behind me from making an illegal right turn and driving over the middle of a roundabout.
I was driving to a shop last night during school run time and drove down a lane about 1/4 mile long that is a 20mph zone as there are schools along it. Lots of kids all spilling out onto the footpaths and trying to cross the roads. Due to the time of day and it was raining I stuck to the legal limit for the full distance of the road which meant that by the time I got to the end I had a queue of several cars behind me bumper to bumper.
One car turned off left before I got to the end and came back on the road in front of me after speeding down an other road.
When I got to the end of the road I got to a mini roundabout with 3 exits (inclusive of the one I was entering on) I was going left or straight on to cross a small canal bridge that only has 1 car width. I could not come off due to traffic coming over the canal bridge on the other side towards the roundabout and 2 cars blocking the exit to the left turn. So if I had entered the roundabout I would have had to stop on the roundabout hence blocking it from all put people prepared to drive over the middle of the roundabout. So I decided to wait till my exit was clear which may be about 30 seconds or so.
However the guy behind me decided he had the right to start honking and swearing at me as he wanted to turn right which was clear. After he had honked at me twice I decided to stop on the roundabout and let him illegally drive over the middle of said roundabout as he was screaming obscenities at me while leaning across is young son he had just picked up from school. I just shouted back what is wrong and then he went on his way with steam coming out his ears.
So was the guy right to force me to stop on the roundabout so he could turn right by driving over the middle of it and was he right to honk his horn at me and swear?
I didn't enter as I decided blocking or starting to block the roundabout was a bad course of action when waiting for a while would not cause any problem. However I was stopping people behind me from making an illegal right turn and driving over the middle of a roundabout.
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