Small numberplate font

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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TommoAE86 said:
Not within the confines of the bumper without resorting to the pictures below
That specific example of whatever it was from the previous page? Easily.

TommoAE86 said:
Wikipedia says that a 600cc + standard private car plate in Japan is between 20cm (extra small) to 44cm (large) wide, a standard UK plate is 52cm wide so too large to fit it in the designated space whilst remaining legal.



Take the Z up with the manufacturers of that particular aftermarket chavkit bumper (although it really doesn't look very hard to me - but I'm not trying to use it as an excuse for a moody plate), but Mazda UK seem to have managed just fine with the RX.

karma mechanic

728 posts

122 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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My wife's RX8 was like the one above when it arrived, seemed to spoil the lines of it.
In the end the plate was moved, whether that was an improvement overall I don't know...


TommoAE86

2,666 posts

127 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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With the previous example it won't fit without trimming down the edges and/or reducing the font size like the Impreza on the first page which is as I understand it illegal. The cutout in the bumper is not big enough, and sticking it on the side/bottom is either going to look silly/get it knocked off.

Agree on the Z's bodykit, but even a standard front of that car is challenging to find a decent looking space for it.

The RX-8 is a perfect example, the UK plate stuck over the front grill, the next post with it moved to the bottom is spot on! smile

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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TommoAE86 said:
With the previous example it won't fit without trimming down the edges and/or reducing the font size like the Impreza on the first page which is as I understand it illegal. The cutout in the bumper is not big enough, and sticking it on the side/bottom is either going to look silly/get it knocked off.
So use a small bracket behind it to mount it ahead of the cutout. Not exactly rocket science.

TommoAE86 said:
Agree on the Z's bodykit, but even a standard front of that car is challenging to find a decent looking space for it.
Nissan seem to have managed.

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

130 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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HantsRat said:
Oh dear. Surprised people actually think it looks 'cool'

Don't you think that looks a bit stupid? The plastic that juts out is the size of a standard number plate. It's like wje people have a bumper with a reccesS for a plate then a little one looks stupid.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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TommoAE86 said:
because this looks stupid, if it was legal I'd gladly have a smaller one.

If you buy a registration number with 6 characters you can fit it across the recess with the permitted import font so have a legal plate

You cannot fit a normal uk size plate on a stock Skyline



Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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HantsRat said:
Oh dear. Surprised people actually think it looks 'cool'

That looks so goofy. Never understood why so many of these ASBO drivers struggle with fitting a legal plate. Maybe they think they're cool and rebellious?

Speed Badger

2,691 posts

117 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I think number plates look rubbish in general (apart from USA ones), so why a lot of people fuss over them so much is beyond me. To me, they are the thing that spoils the lines on a car so I don't want a small 'cool' one or illegal fonts, personalised plates or at a jaunty angle. If we have to have plates, let them be, don't draw attention to them!

KMud

2,924 posts

156 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
Indeed.
[*img]http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/imagecache/file/fit/730x700/media/5131142/Vauxhall%20Monaro%20(5).jpg[/img]

If it was officially sold new here - or anywhere in Europe - it will fit a legal front plate. End of. No ifs, no buts.

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Thursday 21st May 09:06
There are various OE monaro bumpers, some have a recess and some stand proud - you show a VZ, I believe that has a small proud platform for a plate (too small for UK size, but not a recess). The recess on mine (a VY) is actually too small for a full-size plate - Vauxhall managed to fit a full-size front plate by spacing it out with thick plastic spacers between the plate and bumper, making it akin to a springy door stop (twang!). Of course anything can ultimately be made to fit a full-size plate, but the VY monaro front bumper doesn't fit one without ugly bodgery, and the VZ you picture may be similar (no experience). Some reading for you, a few ifs and buts...: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/2687/regul...

Mine is legal according to the above link. The red one pictured above does look too small to be legitimate.

MG CHRIS

9,083 posts

167 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I know plenty of mx5 imports generally running small number plates or nothing at all on the front and none have ever been pulled for it with the police being stretched chasing a few cars with wrong plates/no plates for a £30 fine isn't that worthy of police time.

Cant believe people are arguing over them tbh.

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I use the smallest plates I can legally fit to the car.

Some of those images on here are taking the piss and deserve to get pulled for them.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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KMud said:
The recess on mine (a VY) is actually too small for a full-size plate - Vauxhall managed to fit a full-size front plate by spacing it out with thick plastic spacers between the plate and bumper
There y'go, eminently possible.

Perceived cosmetics are somewhat low in the official give-a-toss list when it comes to arguing why you can't have the exact same size plate as the law requires everybody else to have. It's on a par with saying "Oooh, I don't like the standard plate font, so I should be allowed to have a nice handwritingy-scripty plate."

Sometimes, I start to think that the sooner we get officially-issued plates, like so many other countries, the better. The more people piss around with moody plates, the sooner it'll come.

KMud

2,924 posts

156 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
There y'go, eminently possible.

Perceived cosmetics are somewhat low in the official give-a-toss list when it comes to arguing why you can't have the exact same size plate as the law requires everybody else to have. It's on a par with saying "Oooh, I don't like the standard plate font, so I should be allowed to have a nice handwritingy-scripty plate."

Sometimes, I start to think that the sooner we get officially-issued plates, like so many other countries, the better. The more people piss around with moody plates, the sooner it'll come.
Nice selective quoting, then likening following the legislation on plates for imports with fitting chav plates that don't conform.

Red Devil

13,060 posts

208 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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^^This^^

I will bet that the car in the pic posted by TommoAE86 does not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval. If so, the legislation linked to by KMud applies. No ifs, no buts.

The contention put forward by TooMany2cvs is entirely specious. The use of plastic spacers to make it possible to fit a UK style plate is an irrelevant modification to the manufacturers original spec.

TommoAE86

2,666 posts

127 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
So use a small bracket behind it to mount it ahead of the cutout. Not exactly rocket science.
Why should I have to mount anything when I could just put something slightly smaller in the place that is already there. Not exactly rocket science...

Liner33 interesting thanks, that looks good on yours

Mr10secs

383 posts

235 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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jdw100 said:
I would say, that generally speaking, when I see any sort of modified numberplate - small font, non-standard font or spacing, or numberplate on dash - I assume chav.

Usually it is on a chavvy car with a chavvy driver. Yet to see a non-tracksuit wearing person driving around with small font numberplate on their car.

Its very much a generalisation, but as with any stereotype there is a some truth in it.
How about no numberplate? At the recent Goodwood supercar breakfast club I would say far more of the Ferrari's and Lambo's (and a few other cars) had either none or a tiny front plate !!!! chave=s the lot of em LOL

Cliftonite

8,408 posts

138 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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ging84 said:
hardly a crazy, they were an awful lot more common 10 years+ ago when the police were far less strict on illegal number plates
Evidence?

confused


davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Cliftonite said:
ging84 said:
hardly a crazy, they were an awful lot more common 10 years+ ago when the police were far less strict on illegal number plates
Evidence?

confused
The prevalence of ANPR cameras that require a standardised font means that they are stricter on it these days.

Cliftonite

8,408 posts

138 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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davepoth said:
The prevalence of ANPR cameras that require a standardised font means that they are stricter on it these days.
My perception is that there are more crap, amended or just plain unlawful plates around now than ever before.

I would be interested in any figures relating to enforcement.


Negative Creep

24,978 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd May 2015
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Cliftonite said:
davepoth said:
The prevalence of ANPR cameras that require a standardised font means that they are stricter on it these days.
My perception is that there are more crap, amended or just plain unlawful plates around now than ever before.

I would be interested in any figures relating to enforcement.
I'd say there are far less on cars (but still loads on bikes). Saw a Fiesta the other day with some stupid italic style plate and it occurred to me how rare it is nowadays