parking restriction without yellow line?

parking restriction without yellow line?

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snowdude2910

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754 posts

164 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Morning all, received a ticket today for parking in a restricted parking area outside of designated times but is it right? I went for my theory test this morning in Coventry drove into the road down the side of it and there were double yellow lines that'd been painted black, happy days I thought I was running late anyway so parked up went and did my test and came back to a ticket. In hindsight there are the little signs you normally get when it's single yellow lines with a small urban freeway symbol and some times which obviously I should have spotted but didn't think to look as there weren't any lines do I need to pay or have I been caught out between them painting over the double yellows and adding the new lines and they're trying to pull a fast one? If so will the traffic warden have taken a picture of my car with the painted over lines shown or will I need to go back and collect my own evidence? Obviously I should have looked but I don't park in towns very often and it was a genuine mistake if I'm wrong I'll take it on the chin but if there was a line I'd have checked
Cheers in advance guys... matt

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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You were driving to your theory test?

If it was a sign like this... then there does not need to be any markings on the road.

sparkyhx

4,145 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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ask/search on Pepipoo

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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snowdude2910 said:
In hindsight there are the little signs ... with a small urban freeway symbol
Did you pass the theory test?

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
snowdude2910 said:
In hindsight there are the little signs ... with a small urban freeway symbol
Did you pass the theory test?
The same thought occurred to me.

snowdude2910

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754 posts

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Thursday 21st May 2015
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HantsRat said:
You were driving to your theory test?

If it was a sign like this... then there does not need to be any markings on the road.
No wasn't like that was white with a small 50mm ish blue n red symbol then said "no parking except unloading between" I'll get pictures on my way to work tonight

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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snowdude2910 said:
No wasn't like that was white with a small 50mm ish blue n red symbol then said "no parking except unloading between"
So did you pass...?

snowdude2910

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754 posts

164 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Hooli said:
TooMany2cvs said:
snowdude2910 said:
In hindsight there are the little signs ... with a small urban freeway symbol
Did you pass the theory test?
The same thought occurred to me.
I did lol I've never thought to check for signs when there's no lines before, should I? I've never come across it before in 10 years of driving but as I say I never park in town and city centres but near me they have singke yellow lines and signs. I never have need to go into town though the only shops and things I go to have carparks

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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What was the theory test for then? bikes/HGV/PSV?

covboy

2,575 posts

174 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Coventry City Centre?

It’s all restricted parking (and 20mph) – There are signs as you enter the “zoned” area. They had a field day painting over the old yellow lines.

speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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snowdude2910 said:
I've never thought to check for signs when there's no lines before, should I?
Many cities, e.g. Manchester, Southampton, have Controlled Parking Zones with signs at (some of) the entrances to the zone and no clue beyond there what restrictions apply.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Thursday 21st May 2015
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Is it a council ticket or a private company one?

snowdude2910

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754 posts

164 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Theory was for HGV, it's a council ticket so has to be disputed or paid I'm afraid, it looks like I should've just been more observant. Ah well every day's a school day

snowdude2910

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754 posts

164 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Although this site http://www.ukmotorists.com/cpz.asp says that "In law, CPZs don't even exist but are "creatures of statute" and, in order to be enforceable, should comply with rigidly laid down road marking regulations maybe it's worth putting in an appeal as it's only a 5 minute online thing anyway so no time lost and if it's refused the 14 day reduced fine offer will start again


aw51 121565

4,771 posts

233 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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If you were parked in a CPZ you will have driven past a sign informing you of such - and they're not small signs wink .

Every route into a CPZ should have the same standard sign at each entrance to the CPZ, and if only one such sign is missing then it's not a compliant CPZ and that's your appeal point. In approximate terms, anyway smile .

As posted above, PePiPoo's council and decriminalised parking forum will reveal all.

speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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aw51 121565 said:
If you were parked in a CPZ you will have driven past a sign informing you of such - and they're not small signs wink.

Every route into a CPZ should have the same standard sign at each entrance to the CPZ, ...
Yeah, like this one as you enter the CPZ in Manchester on one of the major routes in. Helpfully turned through 90° as well. Manchester has 4 zones, each with different times of operation. Not at all obvious.


Edited by speedking31 on Friday 22 May 18:21