Back dated IN10

[EdBarrett]

Afternoon,

Can IN10 tickets be backdated?

The reason I ask is someone I know was in a small bump a couple of months ago, after his insurance had been cancelled. Apparently the other driver drove off and he has just had a call from the other insurance company asking for his details. Obviously with none to give I assume that the police can possibly become involved, with that, can IN10's be back dated. If they can he's lost his license as he is still in the first year or 2 whatever the law is now.

Any info that I can pass on would be appreiated

[TooMany2cvs]

The relevant date would be the date of conviction.

[EdBarrett]

TooMany2cvs said:

The relevant date would be the date of conviction.

So in answer to he can still be convicted is yes, but it wont be back dated

[agtlaw]

For this particular matter, if the police are involved then they have 6 months from the matter coming to their knowledge to commence proceedings, subject to a three year time limit from the offence date.

If a new driver accrues 6 or more penalty points after passing his driving test then DVLA will revoke his licence. The relevant date is the offence date, as the rule would still apply even if convicted outside of the two year probationary period (as long as the offence was within).

Using a vehicle without insurance carries 6-8 penalty points or a discretionary disqualification from driving, and a fine. Alternatively, if a fixed penalty is available then 6 points and £300. Revocation applicable in either case.

[Davie_GLA]

He got hit after his insurance was cancelled? So uninsured?

[Xtravia9]

How did the other insurance company get his phone number if the other driver had just driven off?

[HantsRat]

He was driving whilst uninsured and had an accident?

Yes it can be back dated. Expect a hefty fine and points.

[Drawweight]

It will surely depend on whether the insurance co. reports it to the police.

The insurance co will purely be concerned with the financial side and not the legal side.
Landing him in bother won't affect the outcome of the claim.

[agtlaw]

HantsRat said:

Expect a hefty fine and points.

On what basis is a "hefty fine" expected?

[agtlaw]

TooMany2cvs said:

The relevant date would be the date of conviction.

Wrong.

[HantsRat]

agtlaw said:

On what basis is a "hefty fine" expected?

When the other party realises that they were not insured, the police will be informed. No insurance = 6 points / £300 fine.

[agtlaw]

HantsRat said:

When the other party realises that they were not insured, the police will be informed. No insurance = 6 points / £300 fine.

A fixed penalty is not a fine.

[LoonR1]

Xtravia9 said:

How did the other insurance company get his phone number if the other driver had just driven off?

This is the key question that needs answering.

[ging84]

LoonR1 said:

This is the key question that needs answering.

Are you suggesting someone on the has been economical with truth? shame on you,
the answer is obvious he was driving a sign written van with his phone number on it
or his number came out of the secret illegal personal details database that insurers run in collaboration with the police.

[Soov535]

Unsuprisignly agtlaw is entirely correct.

His licence is going.

[EdBarrett]

Trust me, I wonder the exact same thing on how he got the number, but that's not what I was asking for. All I wanted to know was when the date of the fixed penalty would be.

I'm not defending the event, I'm not saying he didn't break the law, but it's better to find out what the full consequences may be should the police be involved.

[aw51 121565]

Soov535 said:

Unsuprisignly agtlaw is entirely correct.

His licence is going.

Does agtlaw (the poor sod) know his licence is going? Seems a bit unfair...

(I jest .)

[Drawweight]

I said this before but for him to get in trouble with the police surely it would require someone from the third parties insurance to actually pick up the phone and report it to the police.

Do they do this as a matter of course or not?

[LoonR1]

Drawweight said:

I said this before but for him to get in trouble with the police surely it would require someone from the third parties insurance to actually pick up the phone and report it to the police.

Do they do this as a matter of course or not?

No they don't. At all.

It's a made up story anyway. The other insurers simply couldn't track the OP's "friend" down as the only info they would be had is "I hit a car and drove off without getting any details"

[davepoth]

LoonR1 said:

Drawweight said:

I said this before but for him to get in trouble with the police surely it would require someone from the third parties insurance to actually pick up the phone and report it to the police.

Do they do this as a matter of course or not?

No they don't. At all.

It's a made up story anyway. The other insurers simply couldn't track the OP's "friend" down as the only info they would be had is "I hit a car and drove off without getting any details"

Quite. The only way I can see the other person driving off is if they caused the accident in the first place, in which place they aren't likely to be trying to make a claim given that they'd have to admit leaving the scene of an accident at the very least.