Legalities of stealing your own property back?

[veevee]

Davel said:

Mandown46 said:

Yup, you definately won't get stabbed

And he knows where you live too...

But you haven't done anything except come to collect your wheels. Easier for him to chalk it up as a loss than come round to yours and stab you.

[PorkInsider]

veevee said:

Davel said:

Mandown46 said:

Yup, you definately won't get stabbed

And he knows where you live too...

But you haven't done anything except come to collect your wheels. Easier for him to chalk it up as a loss than come round to yours and stab you.

Yep, what could possibly go wrong...

[anonymous-user]

PorkInsider said:

veevee said:

Davel said:

Mandown46 said:

Yup, you definately won't get stabbed

And he knows where you live too...

But you haven't done anything except come to collect your wheels. Easier for him to chalk it up as a loss than come round to yours and stab you.

Yep, what could possibly go wrong...

I'm inclined to agree with veevee.

People always seem to fear revenge attacks by criminals but I suspect that 99% of the time they wouldn't do anything to draw any more unwanted attention to themselves. Why would they? What have they got to gain part from the Police now being interested in them?

[Durzel]

Go mob handed or don't go at all. For all you know this guy won't be alone either.

[Impasse]

Bradley1500 said:

Monty Python said:

Do you have definitive proof they are yours?

Without giving away too much information the wheels are custom and have certain markings on them which match up to pictures he's sent.

Isn't that just proof of the condition/style of the wheels he currently owns? What proof do you have that your missing wheels are the ones being advertised?

Oh and become stabproof for the visit and then sell the car because it will never be safe in your ownership again while this chap is around.

[PorkInsider]

NinjaPower said:

PorkInsider said:

veevee said:

Davel said:

Mandown46 said:

Yup, you definately won't get stabbed

And he knows where you live too...

But you haven't done anything except come to collect your wheels. Easier for him to chalk it up as a loss than come round to yours and stab you.

Yep, what could possibly go wrong...

I'm inclined to agree with veevee.

People always seem to fear revenge attacks by criminals but I suspect that 99% of the time they wouldn't do anything to draw any more unwanted attention to themselves. Why would they? What have they got to gain part from the Police now being interested in them?

I suppose whether thoughts of revenge attacks are prompted by prior experience.

Your 99% is a bit optimistic in my experience having grown up with several people (families, in fact) who are career small time criminals. I've not had trouble with them myself, but know plenty about their antics.

Obviously OP might be dealing with a real minor league scrote who wants to keep out of view. He might, on the other hand, be dealing with the type I'm talking about who have nothing better to do with their time than make sure they never lose face with their fellow scrotes, however that might be ensured.

Who knows...

I'm certainly not saying he shouldn't go about getting his property back, by the way...

[eldar]

Davel said:

And he knows where you live too...

And vice versa. For all the wheel seller knows the OP could be the violence crazed psychopath.

[PoleDriver]

markmullen said:

Big friends for a job like that.

PH Posse? We haven't had a lynching for ages!

[Bradley1500]

Davel said:

And he knows where you live too...

He doesn't, the car was stored at my friends garage not my home address.

PoleDriver said:

PH Posse? We haven't had a lynching for ages!

Sounds good to me!

[tony wright]

Can't understand why the police would not be interested. If this guy has a history of selling wheels on a certain site then it would be in everyone's interest (including the police) to get him off the streets. At best it would put a stop to his future plans to steal and be pro active of the police in doing so.

[uk_vette]

Durzel said:

Go mob handed or don't go at all. For all you know this guy won't be alone either.

THIS 100%

vette

[uk_vette]

tony wright said:

Can't understand why the police would not be interested. If this guy has a history of selling wheels on a certain site then it would be in everyone's interest (including the police) to get him off the streets. At best it would put a stop to his future plans to steal and be pro active of the police in doing so.

Can't understand why the police would not be interested.

The police are interested in jack st.
They won't give a toss about your wheels.
Too much hassle for them.

vette

[Bigends]

uk_vette said:

tony wright said:

Can't understand why the police would not be interested. If this guy has a history of selling wheels on a certain site then it would be in everyone's interest (including the police) to get him off the streets. At best it would put a stop to his future plans to steal and be pro active of the police in doing so.

Can't understand why the police would not be interested.

The police are interested in jack st.
They won't give a toss about your wheels.
Too much hassle for them.

vette

Its only likely Police will go to the address or take any further action if the wheels can be positively identified by unique marks put there and documented by the OP or there are serial numbers/post code markings on the wheels. Otherwise theyre just another set of wheels with marks similar to the OP's. Otherwise its the sellers word against the OP's

[bad company]

I would update the police ASAP, if there are markings on the wheels to make a positive identification that should be enough for them.

If you delay too long there is a chance that they will be sold to somebody else.

[EnthusiastOwned]

I had a car stolen many years ago in Leeds. The wheels on the car were custom made and very unique. The wheels re-appeared for sale a few years later. However they were battered and worthless. I asked for photos and info on the wheels and the seller had "owned" them for longer than when they were stolen but had no info on the wheels at all. I was certain the seller wasn't an innocent party and they were my wheels.

Long story short I decided to leave it. I had already been paid out with insurance and mentally accepted my loss (to a degree). Plus I had no idea who to expect if I went to see him, or how many and what I'd do if I got hold of him - one of us would have taken a serious kicking and it was never going to end well. The gain wasn't worth the associated risk.

It depends on what the wheels are worth to you? But seeing as you've not already been to collect them shows me your not the crazy, irrational, neamderthal type and I'm guessing you don't know many heavies in your circle of friends.

Call the police, ask them to turn up with you to keep the peace, or forget it and move on. Life's to short.

(For reference If I had found my wheels days after being nicked I'd have been down in a heartbeat).

[anonymous-user]

uk_vette said:

The police are interested in jack st.

+1

I have been amazed at how many theft cases they can't be arsed with.

A mate had his car stolen from a bodyshop where it was at as it needed some work, and according to the police it was 'a civil matter' and they wouldn't do anything

[2Btoo]

NinjaPower said:

+1

I have been amazed at how many theft cases they can't be arsed with.

A mate had his car stolen from a bodyshop where it was at as it needed some work, and according to the police it was 'a civil matter' and they wouldn't do anything

+1 again

[BlackLabel]

Slidingpillar said:

Regardless of legalities, if you go, go very mob handed and if you have any scary looking friends, take then too.

markmullen said:

Big friends for a job like that.

Durzel said:

Go mob handed or don't go at all. For all you know this guy won't be alone either.

Don't go alone.

The police will act if you inform them however there are no guarantees they will act quick enough (it probably isn't a high priority) and the wheels could be sold by the time they get round to paying the guy a visit.

[CAPP0]

BlackLabel said:

The police will act if you inform them however there are no guarantees they will act quick enough (it probably isn't a high priority) and the wheels could be sold by the time they get round to paying the guy a visit.

I have come across this before, get the police involved and by the time they get around to paying a visit the goods are long gone, one way or another.

I'm not advocating any one or other specific course of action but it would be quite unusual to actually get the wheels back without going round to collect them, and soon. Remember too that the person now holding the wheels may well be reading this, if they are into their cars.

[Oakey]

Have you looked him up on the usual social media sites? Does he have any other online presence? What can you find out about him? Who does he know? Do you recognise any of the names on his friends list, etc, etc?