64mph in 30

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LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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All that jazz said:
LoonR1 said:
What's behind and to the side of you?
Nothing except a line of about a dozen terrace houses on his side. Fields on the other side. Continues like that for half a mile before it enters East Morton village which is nothing special - decent width road and would be perfectly fine for a 40 limit until the start of the village (as it used to be).

Clicky.

Edited by All that jazz on Friday 29th May 14:17
The 20 limit has to start somewhere. I'd suggest a 30 would be more appropriate, but maybe they got fed up with then 40 being ignored, so went draconian as a result. Your description is a bit poor though, it's clearly a built up area

TheHound

1,763 posts

122 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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supermono said:
Absolutely. We have these extended "out of town" 30s now and some Einstein in Norfolk decided to make the A11 a 30 a full two miles ahead of the Thickthorn roundabout because at certain times of the day, apparently, a workman was present.

20 years ago 30s were sacred and the OP would probably be guilty of being a nut but those days are long gone, and you simply can't know without looking at the road. Way too many sandal wearing green loonies making road decisions way above their intelligence levels/pay grades.
Those bloody 30 sections on the A11 are ridiculous. Fortunately I don't have to go that way too often but every time I do, they do my nut in. Its dual carriage way and there is never a huge amount of traffic on them!

Wills2

22,804 posts

175 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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LoonR1 said:
What's behind and to the side of you?
A kitten factory and a school for the blind.....

Wills2

22,804 posts

175 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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LoonR1 said:
it's clearly a built up area
laugh

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Wills2 said:
LoonR1 said:
it's clearly a built up area
laugh
+1. Clearly hasn't bothered to read what I wrote. Village doesn't start for another half a mile down the road, round several bends.

silentbrown

8,827 posts

116 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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All that jazz said:
+1. Clearly hasn't bothered to read what I wrote. Village doesn't start for another half a mile down the road, round several bends.
Maybe he just looked at the highway code instead? Or are you the only one that can't see the streetlights?

As for half a mile, you're having a joke.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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silentbrown said:
Maybe he just looked at the highway code instead? Or are you the only one that can't see the streetlights?

As for half a mile, you're having a joke.
Streetlights on the road outside my house which is NSL. Your point being? Clearly a Brake fan boy as anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that a dozen set back terrace houses in the middle of nowhere doesn't warrant a 20mph speed limit.

Horbury56

94 posts

183 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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It's a steep hill running down into the village with 2 sharp 90' bends on the incline and then two more at the bottom. There are a couple of concealed entrances, including this one as you enter the village approaching the camera

Not so long ago a local man was killed when a crane plowed into the back of his tractor at the bottom of that hill.

The 20 zone begins at the top of the hill and continues though the village, past the pub, village hall, kids playground and the primary school. It seems an entirely reasonable 20 limit to me, and its total length is about 1500m

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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LoonR1 said:
OpulentBob said:
btcc123 said:
OpulentBob said:
pork911 said:
OpulentBob said:
dacouch said:
lbc said:
Not that old chestnut again.

Most speedo's these days are accurate within 2mph.

You don't need a speedo to know you are driving over twice the speed limit.
How do you know the OP's driving a modern car?

Judging by his profile the car's 30 years old
Try again.

(Hint: 2015-1995=?)
?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
?

The OP's profile shows a 1995 car.

If that's 30 years then I'm close to retirement!
The Porsche 997 Turbo in the photo is a generation 1 car built between 2005-2009
http://www.pistonheads.com/members/showcar.asp?carId=227636

I may be owed a massive parrot...
If I'm reading this correctly, the OP has a car that was only built between 2005-2009, but was registered in 1995 and is now 30 years old.

I agree with the fabricated half term story posts.
The two speedos in the 997 read 10% fast. You can display true speed in KPH on the OBC if you know how to get into it. It's option 20C nerd

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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All that jazz said:
Wills2 said:
LoonR1 said:
it's clearly a built up area
laugh
+1. Clearly hasn't bothered to read what I wrote. Village doesn't start for another half a mile down the road, round several bends.
That's one hell of a big set of terraces as they must be quarter of a mile long, as when you travel the length of the terraces again twice, you're into the village proper. Here's a few screenshots of it to show the overhead view and distances. The row of terraces being discussed as at the OP's left on his picture are top right on these. Also, if you think more than 30 is appropriate through there, then you're a fool.

As for the BRAKE comments, take a look at my other posts elsewhere. I happily speed pretty well everywhere I go, as often as road conditions permit. I treat NSLs as completely derestricted and other roads usually up to 10 mph higher, motorways are cruised at 90+.




silentbrown

8,827 posts

116 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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All that jazz said:
silentbrown said:
Maybe he just looked at the highway code instead? Or are you the only one that can't see the streetlights?

As for half a mile, you're having a joke.
Streetlights on the road outside my house which is NSL. Your point being? Clearly a Brake fan boy as anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that a dozen set back terrace houses in the middle of nowhere doesn't warrant a 20mph speed limit.
My 'points' being:
a: There's a 'system of streetlights' so obviously it's a built-up area. which means 30, unless overridden with explicit signs/repeaters.
b: It's absolutely NOT in the middle of nowhere. Check the map.
c: I didn't say it warranted a 20 limit. But definitely a 30 from what I see.
d: The houses are hardly 'set back' from the roads. I wouldn't want to be reversing on or off those driveways.


All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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LoonR1 said:
That's one hell of a big set of terraces as they must be quarter of a mile long, as when you travel the length of the terraces again twice, you're into the village proper. Here's a few screenshots of it to show the overhead view and distances. The row of terraces being discussed as at the OP's left on his picture are top right on these. Also, if you think more than 30 is appropriate through there, then you're a fool.
The only fool here is you, as per usual. The only thing where the 20 starts is a row of a dozen terrace houses before another bunch of nothing til the village half a mile down the road. The streetview pics quite clearly show that for those unfamiliar with the area (I know it well as I live not far away). There is no reason for it to be 20 there at all. As for your comment about doing more than 30 is inappropriate, you are just making yourself look even more foolish as it all used to be NSL down the hill until the terrace houses then 40 then down to 30 for the village at the bottom of the hill. Perfectly appropriate and some farmer in his tractor being mowed down by a mobile crane which given the bends probably wasn't speeding anyway is no justification for a blanket 20 limit starting in the middle of nowhere.

PoleDriver

28,637 posts

194 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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£2500 fine and a 12 month ban if there's any justice!

silentbrown

8,827 posts

116 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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All that jazz said:
a dozen terrace houses before another bunch of nothing til the village half a mile down the road.
So that's 'another bunch of nothing' all along the blue line then. Can't think why they bothered with a speed limit at all.


Vaud

50,468 posts

155 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Horbury56 said:
It's a steep hill running down into the village with 2 sharp 90' bends on the incline and then two more at the bottom. There are a couple of concealed entrances, including this one as you enter the village approaching the camera

Not so long ago a local man was killed when a crane plowed into the back of his tractor at the bottom of that hill.

The 20 zone begins at the top of the hill and continues though the village, past the pub, village hall, kids playground and the primary school. It seems an entirely reasonable 20 limit to me, and its total length is about 1500m
The section coming down the hill is quite right to be a 20. It is very steep as well in parts, especially in the wet/snow past the houses, and the early 20 gives larger vehicles a chance to get down to the right speed.

Going uphill out on to the tops it makes little sense, but coming down it does. The google view doesn't show well how steep that road is.

And yes, I know that route well...


All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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silentbrown said:
All that jazz said:
a dozen terrace houses before another bunch of nothing til the village half a mile down the road.
So that's 'another bunch of nothing' all along the blue line then. Can't think why they bothered with a speed limit at all.

Instead of arguing and making yourself look even more foolish, look on streetview! There's nothing there except fields and a high wall til the village. No reason for it to be 20 at all.

Wills2

22,804 posts

175 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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I sometimes wonder how some of you manage to get home, seriously that 20 zone starts far too early coming in and far too late coming out.

I use it everyday and everyone is breaking the speed limit on that section everyone, because it's daft.

The village fine but that hill section no.


silentbrown

8,827 posts

116 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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All that jazz said:
There's nothing there except fields and a high wall til the village.
I'm not arguing that, FFS. I'm telling you it's not half a mile.

Show me on streetview where you think the village starts, then. I'd put it by the blue micra. It's barely 200 yards from the terrace.



Vipers

32,880 posts

228 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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OpulentBob said:
LoonR1 said:
Wills2 said:
This is a 20 zone near me:

What's behind and to the side of you?
A local councillor's house?
Well it hasn't always been 20 surely, I am guessing drivers ignored the limit, so they reduced it further. Sit back relax and enjoy the scenery.

And from some comments further on the page, people are ignoring it.


smile

Edited by Vipers on Friday 29th May 19:30

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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Vaud said:
The section coming down the hill is quite right to be a 20. It is very steep as well in parts, especially in the wet/snow past the houses, and the early 20 gives larger vehicles a chance to get down to the right speed.

Going uphill out on to the tops it makes little sense, but coming down it does. The google view doesn't show well how steep that road is.

And yes, I know that route well...
Sure I read on here that a single carriageway can't have different speeds in opposite directions which would explain why one way seems ok but not the other.