Post TPAC and Tactical collison
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Hi
Been wondering for a while and traffic cops last night made me think about it again so now on here thought I'd ask, in the first scene the Audi A4 that was trying to make off got totaled by another A4 police car then hit a number of times by the other 3 or 4 patrol cars, officers were then using the cars to get to the thieves and damaging the cars in the process.
Now what happens to these police cars after and what do the officers use, is there a back up fleet of a few cars? they all seemed to take a decent hit, is there some really quick repair garage that has parts ready? the initial contact looked like it pushed the police Audi up a barrier so can imagine it was pretty much wrote off. I know when I ordered my Audi it took 6 months, is there a quicker lead time if this was needing to be replaced?
Not important i know but just wandered :-)
Been wondering for a while and traffic cops last night made me think about it again so now on here thought I'd ask, in the first scene the Audi A4 that was trying to make off got totaled by another A4 police car then hit a number of times by the other 3 or 4 patrol cars, officers were then using the cars to get to the thieves and damaging the cars in the process.
Now what happens to these police cars after and what do the officers use, is there a back up fleet of a few cars? they all seemed to take a decent hit, is there some really quick repair garage that has parts ready? the initial contact looked like it pushed the police Audi up a barrier so can imagine it was pretty much wrote off. I know when I ordered my Audi it took 6 months, is there a quicker lead time if this was needing to be replaced?
Not important i know but just wandered :-)
If you smash all your cars up..you walk. Simple as that. There are sometimes one or two old knackers at the workshops that are hanging around waiting to be auctioned that can be used, but breaking the cars is avoided if possible. If a car's wrote off, then you just have to wait for a replacement to arrive. It's not quick.
The incident on TV last night wasn't something I'd describe as TPAC. It was dodgems with a bit of red mist thrown in.
The incident on TV last night wasn't something I'd describe as TPAC. It was dodgems with a bit of red mist thrown in.
I guess that each local constabulary doesn't have that many tactical stops that cause heavy damage every month. If they can get the car repaired and turned around in a week or two then they're probably not going to be under pressure at finding sufficient replacement pursuit vehicles.
The areas with more frequent incidents probably have more pursuit vehicles than those with less chance of needing them e.g. Scottish Highlands vs London met.
The areas with more frequent incidents probably have more pursuit vehicles than those with less chance of needing them e.g. Scottish Highlands vs London met.
Elroy Blue said:
They just go to an approved body shop and wait in the queue like everyone else's. A TPAC stop isn't an accident, it's an approved tactic so doesn't have to be declared to insurers.
(Only speaking about my and surrounding Forces)
Does that apply to suspect stopped too?(Only speaking about my and surrounding Forces)
maurauth said:
I guess that each local constabulary doesn't have that many tactical stops that cause heavy damage every month. If they can get the car repaired and turned around in a week or two then they're probably not going to be under pressure at finding sufficient replacement pursuit vehicles.
The areas with more frequent incidents probably have more pursuit vehicles than those with less chance of needing them e.g. Scottish Highlands vs London met.
A week or two? I wish. It takes the same amount of time as if you put your own car through an insurance bodyshop. The areas with more frequent incidents probably have more pursuit vehicles than those with less chance of needing them e.g. Scottish Highlands vs London met.
There definitely isn't anywhere with spare cars. We've lost seven cars off our fleet due to cuts (but we've also lost 40% of our strength so that's OK!). Road Policing has suffered a massive reduction in the last five years and it isn't going to get any better.
Elroy Blue said:
A week or two? I wish. It takes the same amount of time as if you put your own car through an insurance bodyshop.
There definitely isn't anywhere with spare cars. We've lost seven cars off our fleet due to cuts (but we've also lost 40% of our strength so that's OK!). Road Policing has suffered a massive reduction in the last five years and it isn't going to get any better.
To be fair it's been a while since I've had to have a repair done to one of my cars- I had a front bumper and radiator replaced and painted etc when I couldn't stop due to wet leaves on a side road and ended up skidding into a fence reinforced with large stone boalders.There definitely isn't anywhere with spare cars. We've lost seven cars off our fleet due to cuts (but we've also lost 40% of our strength so that's OK!). Road Policing has suffered a massive reduction in the last five years and it isn't going to get any better.
It was about 7 years ago but it only took a week and a half through the local VX bodyshop, I guess as there were no insurance companies battling it out as I was 18 and therefore sorted it out myself, but still it wasn't the middle of a snowy winter with thr body shops all backed up but wasn't exactly a quiet time of year.
Maybe times have changed but surely police don't need to have a lot of red tape as the vehicles need repairing no matter what unless it's uneconomical. Surely those TPAC cars don't need much more doing than what I did, a light ramming at a low velocity differential can't be that much worse?
maurauth said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Not "excessive speed" then?
Genuinely not, I don't normally automatically assume there's going to be half a tree on the road round a sharp bend, you could argue excessive speed for the conditions but I was well below the speed limit.
maurauth said:
Crossflow Kid said:
What would a police officer say?
Probably that they should have cleared up the leaves when they trimmed all their garden that overhangs on a blind bend? 
Crossflow Kid said:
And what would that same police officer say if a MoP, in the same scenario, suggested the same thing?
To be fair it was a while ago but I'd had an argument with the ex and went for a drive to cool off (silly I know) so my judgement might have been slightly impaired but I know that 99% of drivers don't expect what is normally a clear road to have wet leaves all over it appear over night. I was prepared for any reasonable need to stop (parked cars etc) but not expecting something that tripled my stopping distance.My point still stands though about length of time for the repair.
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