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It is illegal in certain parts of Cannock, as is made clear by numerous signs.
The Court Order said:
car cruising is a 'congregation of drivers, of two or more vehicles, between the hours of 7.00pm and 7.00am on a public highway.'
Seems pretty vague to me. Edited by RyanOPlastry on Thursday 28th May 22:23
It's been around a while...
http://www.cannockchasedc.gov.uk/news/article/1515...
...and it's much more than just "certain parts of Cannock".
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/new...
But I rather suspect there's a simple answer. Don't be a dick, and don't attract the attention of the law. If you don't, then it doesn't matter if you know the people in the next car along or not.
http://www.cannockchasedc.gov.uk/news/article/1515...
...and it's much more than just "certain parts of Cannock".
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/new...
But I rather suspect there's a simple answer. Don't be a dick, and don't attract the attention of the law. If you don't, then it doesn't matter if you know the people in the next car along or not.
robinessex said:
Funny me. I thought laws had to be passed by parliament, not by a mixture of local vigilantes and the local magistrate. And reading the link, seems to me as if the behaviour leading to this injunction was perfectly controllable by existing laws.
True, but a Bye-Law doesn'tTooMany2cvs said:
But I rather suspect there's a simple answer. Don't be a dick, and don't attract the attention of the law. If you don't, then it doesn't matter if you know the people in the next car along or not.
That's exactly why I hate this type of law - practically everyone is guilty of it but as long as you're a good little citizen and don't annoy the nice policeman you won't go to prison.FunkyNige said:
TooMany2cvs said:
But I rather suspect there's a simple answer. Don't be a dick, and don't attract the attention of the law. If you don't, then it doesn't matter if you know the people in the next car along or not.
That's exactly why I hate this type of law - practically everyone is guilty of it but as long as you're a good little citizen and don't annoy the nice policeman you won't go to prison.Mutley said:
robinessex said:
Funny me. I thought laws had to be passed by parliament, not by a mixture of local vigilantes and the local magistrate. And reading the link, seems to me as if the behaviour leading to this injunction was perfectly controllable by existing laws.
True, but a Bye-Law doesn'tTooMany2cvs said:
It's been around a while...
http://www.cannockchasedc.gov.uk/news/article/1515...
...and it's much more than just "certain parts of Cannock".
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/new...
But I rather suspect there's a simple answer. Don't be a dick, and don't attract the attention of the law. If you don't, then it doesn't matter if you know the people in the next car along or not.
Exactly.http://www.cannockchasedc.gov.uk/news/article/1515...
...and it's much more than just "certain parts of Cannock".
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/new...
But I rather suspect there's a simple answer. Don't be a dick, and don't attract the attention of the law. If you don't, then it doesn't matter if you know the people in the next car along or not.
It pays to read the specifics, namely the Schedule to the injunction (see the second link above). To fall foul of it you have to undertaking an activity prohibited by paragraph 3 which causes, or is capable of causing, any of the prohibited consequences in paragraph 4.
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/docs/latest-new...
Also
WMP news article said:
Councillor Mattu added: “It should be stressed that we are not seeking to prevent legitimate car enthusiasts from enjoying their hobby. If they meet to lawfully admire and display their cars for others’ benefits and, in doing so, aren’t causing any of activities prohibited by the injunction - in short, if they are not causing a public nuisance - they are not car cruising and the injunction will not apply to them.
Johnnytheboy said:
Yes, but like other laws it will be used to target the wrong people.
Going to a PH show in convoy? Illegal.
No (see above). It pays to look beyond the sensationalist headlines. Behave sensibly and you shouldn't get any hassle. Going to a PH show in convoy? Illegal.
robinessex said:
Mutley said:
robinessex said:
Funny me. I thought laws had to be passed by parliament, not by a mixture of local vigilantes and the local magistrate. And reading the link, seems to me as if the behaviour leading to this injunction was perfectly controllable by existing laws.
True, but a Bye-Law doesn'tAs you said above, there are existing laws to deal with this kind of thing, nothing else was needed
Red Devil said:
No (see above). It pays to look beyond the sensationalist headlines. Behave sensibly and you shouldn't get any hassle.
Two or more drivers travelling together through the 'Black country' after 3pm would all be liable to arrest and imprisonment if one of them was speeding and had a noisy exhaust. E.g. a small 'convoy' of GT3s. Also, no actual knowledge of the injunction is required. It's unconstitutional, probably unlawful and should be appealed at the earliest opportunity. Someone please get this before the Supreme Court.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff