Damage to my car on private land

Damage to my car on private land

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griffhnter

Original Poster:

21 posts

173 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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For five years I have been doing work on site ever few months, and park on my customer's land. Last time whilst I was parked in the same place my car was damaged. Since no one last at home in the nearest house, I left a note. The lady of the house rang and admitted running into me. I am in discussion with her husband. He says they have bought the land on which I was parked (and I have no reason to doubt it although there is no indication on the ground). He also says there is £1000 damage to their car; my damage is similar if new parts are used. I have offered to use second hand parts if he does not want to involve his insurance and this will halve my claim. He says it should be knock for knock, since I was parked on his land. I do not have the registration number of their car nor details of their insurance. He is taking legal advise; what will be the outcome.

nitrodave

1,262 posts

138 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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private land or not, they have admitted fault and you should just go through insurance.

JustinP1

13,330 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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griffhnter said:
He says it should be knock for knock, since I was parked on his land. I do not have the registration number of their car nor details of their insurance. He is taking legal advise; what will be the outcome.
The outcome will be IF he gets legal advice, which I doubt, that they will tell him he is talking bks.

Just ask for his insurance details. If he refuses, inform the police that they've refused to give them to you.

Jasandjules

69,883 posts

229 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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So your vehicle was stationary and his wife drove into it and he thinks it is knock for knock?

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Just go though insurance and play him at his own game.

griffhnter

Original Poster:

21 posts

173 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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JustinP1 said:
The outcome will be IF he gets legal advice, which I doubt, that they will tell him he is talking bks.

Just ask for his insurance details. If he refuses, inform the police that they've refused to give them to you.
Will the police be willing to get involved to obtain the car reg and the insurance details?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Just tell your insurers and give them his name and address.

If you are Third Party Only, give them a week to sort themselves out then contact an accident management company and let them do their worst.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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griffhnter said:
Will the police be willing to get involved to obtain the car reg and the insurance details?
No. Damage only and on private land.

Your insurance company will be able to get hold of his insurance details.

Davel

8,982 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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She damaged your car and admitted it, so advise your insurers.

The fact that he has bought the land does not entitle them to reduce your claim.

He is trying it on.

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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How can it be knock for knock if your car was not moving.

You gave him a fair chance and also tried to reduce his costs but he still wants to take the mick out of you.

Get a quote and tell him to pay now or you are calling your insurance.

Aretnap

1,663 posts

151 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Liability isn't affected by who the land belongs to - if you drive into a parked car you (or your insurers) get to pay for all the damage. If you don't like someone parking on your land that's a separate issue - it doesn't give you licence to drive into them.

If the land is private in the sense that it's not open to or used by the general public then that does affect the woman's obligations under the Road Traffic Act - she has no obligation to provide her insurance details for example. Hence the police probably won't be very interested. However if you can find out her insurance details you can approach her insurers directly if you like. If you can find out her registration number (eg by going back to the site and looking for her car) then you can get her insurance details from AskMID for a token fee.

Of course, if the husband is your customer (not quite clear from your post whether he is) then it might be wise to strike a balance between asserting your legal rights and staying on good terms with him.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Anybody care to explain knock for knock to me please? It's certainly not what anyone who's used it in this thread thinks it is though

Oh and 20 posts in 5 and a half years.

Half term frolics?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,346 posts

150 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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griffhnter said:
He says it should be knock for knock,
Knock for knock hasn't existed in UK insurance for about 25 years.

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Davel said:
She damaged your car and admitted it, so advise your insurers.

The fact that he has bought the land does not entitle them to reduce your claim.

He is trying it on.
yes

It's what you pay insurance for.

griffhnter

Original Poster:

21 posts

173 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Thanks everyone.

dacouch

1,172 posts

129 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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Imagine if it was true that if you or your property were damaged on someone else's private property by the land owner, that it went "Knock for Knock" (He actually means 50/50 but 50/50 means each party pays 50% of the other parties losses)

Can you imagine if someone was run over by a Tesco Lorry in a Tesco Supermarket Car Park and they were not entitled to make a claim due to this made up law.

He's talking 'ollox

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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dacouch said:
Imagine if it was true that if you or your property were damaged on someone else's private property by the land owner, that it went "Knock for Knock" (He actually means 50/50 but 50/50 means each party pays 50% of the other parties losses)

Can you imagine if someone was run over by a Tesco Lorry in a Tesco Supermarket Car Park and they were not entitled to make a claim due to this made up law.

He's talking 'ollox
I know he means 50/50, but I enjoy driving my earwig back to tarmac after a long day at blancmange.

dacouch

1,172 posts

129 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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LoonR1 said:
I know he means 50/50, but I enjoy driving my earwig back to tarmac after a long day at blancmange.
I know you do, it was for the OP's benefit

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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dacouch said:
I know you do, it was for the OP's benefit
I just wanted to show those using it, how ridiculous it is when they use knock for knock to describe 50/50 though. Two things that are completely different and have virtually no connection to each other at all.