9 Points on license & now caught by speed camera, what ban?
Discussion
flemke said:
Or you drive fewer miles than some other people do or you drive different roads or just possibly you have been lucky so far.
About 20,000 a year on motorways, A roads and other boring things in the car and c3000 on a bike at fairly quick speeds in the North around some heavily policed roads. Luck? Possibly, or maybe the more I practice, the luckier I get.
flemke said:
Or you drive fewer miles than some other people do or you drive different roads or just possibly you have been lucky so far.
Let's face it, all of us are very "lucky". If we all had a device in our car that issued a ticket every time we broke the law, there would be very few people left on the roads. 
LoonR1 said:
flemke said:
Or you drive fewer miles than some other people do or you drive different roads or just possibly you have been lucky so far.
About 20,000 a year on motorways, A roads and other boring things in the car and c3000 on a bike at fairly quick speeds in the North around some heavily policed roads. Luck? Possibly, or maybe the more I practice, the luckier I get.
At the same time, in a universe of >35m drivers, there will be a wide distribution of outcomes for persons of similar observational skill.
Mermaid said:
flemke said:
Or you drive fewer miles than some other people do or you drive different roads or just possibly you have been lucky so far.
Let's face it, all of us are very "lucky". If we all had a device in our car that issued a ticket every time we broke the law, there would be very few people left on the roads. 
LoonR1 said:
The thing is that the other poster (and me) who set outer own limits within reason of the speed limit must have better observational skills, or use our thresholds more appropriately, or both as we don't have any points. Whereas, you've managed to be in a position to be banned from three instances of speeding in a short space of time. That's pretty poor driving obs whichever way you cut it.
Its kinda like you've been asking me questions ("come on OP") just so that you can make a point that iis irrelevant to my enquiry but which you'd like to make anyway.You have no points, well done.
I'll tell the judge that I've clearly set my own personal "thresholds" too high and promise to reduce them to 10% above whatever the limit is in future just like some of the chaps on PH
How does my first thread asking about the possible consequences for a specific event turn into a "I'm a great driver and you're sh*t" thread?
I'll have to think again about my next thread, "Aggravated burglary, will I get out on a tag?"
Edited by gadgetmac on Saturday 20th June 23:52
All that jazz said:
Having you considered undertaking some driving lessons? It appears from your recent speeding history that your observation skills are non-existent.
So you obviously never exceed speed limits or make any mistakes?Seriously we all like to enjoy the roads but some are clearly holier than thou.
gadgetmac said:
I said 90 and it was 90ish, I can't remember the exact number. Likely a bit more then but certainly not a ton as I'd have been banned automatically.
I find that statement a bit confusing. I'd bet that almost everyone can recite every speeding conviction they have had. If you ended up in court over the matter I'd expect that to be even fresher in your mind. 6 points for 90mph does seem at the higher end.
People are jumping to conclusions as things aren't adding up.
Best of luck with the case though. It does appear a ban will likely and justifiably be handed out .
gadgetmac said:
Its kinda like you've been asking me questions ("come on OP") just so that you can make a point that iis irrelevant to my enquiry but which you'd like to make anyway.
You have no points, well done.
I'll tell the judge that I've clearly set my own personal "thresholds" too high and promise to reduce them to 10% above whatever the limit is in future just like some of the chaps on PH
How does my first thread asking about the possible consequences for a specific event turn into a "I'm a great driver and you're sh*t" thread?
I'll have to think again about my next thread, "Aggravated burglary, will I get out on a tag?
You have no points, well done.
I'll tell the judge that I've clearly set my own personal "thresholds" too high and promise to reduce them to 10% above whatever the limit is in future just like some of the chaps on PH
How does my first thread asking about the possible consequences for a specific event turn into a "I'm a great driver and you're sh*t" thread?
I'll have to think again about my next thread, "Aggravated burglary, will I get out on a tag?
gadgetmac said:
Its kinda like you've been asking me questions ("come on OP") just so that you can make a point that iis irrelevant to my enquiry but which you'd like to make anyway.
You have no points, well done.
I'll tell the judge that I've clearly set my own personal "thresholds" too high and promise to reduce them to 10% above whatever the limit is in future just like some of the chaps on PH
How does my first thread asking about the possible consequences for a specific event turn into a "I'm a great driver and you're sh*t" thread?
I'll have to think again about my next thread, "Aggravated burglary, will I get out on a tag?"
There's a tendency to pick over the evidence a poster provides as part hobby and part troll spotting but equally people can't be arsed to help when they're given incomplete stories. You have no points, well done.
I'll tell the judge that I've clearly set my own personal "thresholds" too high and promise to reduce them to 10% above whatever the limit is in future just like some of the chaps on PH
How does my first thread asking about the possible consequences for a specific event turn into a "I'm a great driver and you're sh*t" thread?
I'll have to think again about my next thread, "Aggravated burglary, will I get out on a tag?"
Edited by gadgetmac on Saturday 20th June 23:52
Then as there is a little discretion on sentencing, the personal details and background are important. On the basis that you seem to attract the top end punishment ie 6 points for 90ish, the fact you may well be the type that goes to court (a summons is only issued at 97) that you may well have already done a speed awareness course (or all your speeding has been well above the limit meaning an SAC is not suitable) and you may well have an unfortunate face that people don't like, you will probably be getting a 12 month ban. Imagine the magistrate you'll be in front of is the sum of all the people moaning at you and who think your attitude isn't great, suck it up because the lack of any true regret or acknowledgement of what you're doing is going to cost you.
If all you wanted was the sentencing guidelines you could have just looked it up.
That help explain why people are digging in a bit?
LoonR1 said:
flemke said:
Or you drive fewer miles than some other people do or you drive different roads or just possibly you have been lucky so far.
About 20,000 a year on motorways, A roads and other boring things in the car and c3000 on a bike at fairly quick speeds in the North around some heavily policed roads. Luck? Possibly, or maybe the more I practice, the luckier I get.
I believe my licence is clean purely down to luck and my ability to notice marked police cars.
Points on your licence doesn't always correlate with driving ability, it's really easy to stick to the rules of the road and you can still get points when a copper makes a mistake.
There's probably thousands of drivers with points on their licences whom you'd be safer sharing the roads with than me with my clean one.
hora said:
OP were you distracted in anyway?
I'm actually not sure.It's a camera thats stuck indelibly in my head and has been for 20 odd years. Indeed, when i'm a passenger passing it I always point it out. It's the only camera for miles and is well sign posted so I'm seriously baffled as to how this time i would have not been aware it - which is why i need to ask for more evidence i think, just to be sure, but what evidence can I ask for, that was my OP.
I'll say it again, I'm not proud of it but it is what it is and I'm just asking for info.
Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff